Somalia's Destruction: Causes and Actors

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The Crisis in Somalia: US-NATO Plans to Control the Indian Ocean


That many of those off the Somali coast capturing foreign, mainly Western, vessels and holding them, their cargo and their crews for ransom are reported to be former fishermen driven out of their sole occupation by years of intrusive and illegal large-scale poaching by world commercial concerns or affected by eighteen years of toxic, including nuclear, wastes dumped off their shores isn’t acknowledged. To do so would complicate the narrative contrived by those who have with disastrous consequences interfered in the internal affairs of Somalia and its neighborhood for several decades and are in large part responsible for the current crisis.

“NATO’s naval deployment in the Indian Ocean region is a historic move and a milestone in the alliance’s transformation. Even at the height of the Cold War, the alliance didn’t have a presence in the Indian Ocean. Such deployments almost always tend to be open-ended."




See the pattern? The West creates a crisis and then pretends to offer a "solution" which always involves military occupation of some form. ORDER AB CHAO.
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Righteous wrote:Sahal,

I've never seen you discuss who funds Damul Jadiid, surprising for someone so well versed in their nefarious activities. How do you reconcile your Nationalist leanings with your support for this treacherous group?
Firstly I'm not nationalist, I'm a centralist but in a democracy like any other real states not in the old way

I believe that we can't help ourselves without the westren backing and the gulf arabs

Somalia has mainly two problems: a lot of war lords, political elders, a lot of inclaves

The other one being a lot of countries that have big influences on somalia

To reduce these two problems you need a local reconciliations and a few powerful countries that have no agendas in somalia except common security concerns and economical interests.

I also advocate to make or support the regional dictatorships to reduce the regional power struggle or conflicts, we need to deal with one group in each region

The current countries that have influences on somalia.
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Brother Sahal.

EVERY Single foreign country has an "agenda", there is no such thing as a free lunch. These funds come with caveats and soon they'll want their pound of flesh. Damul Jadiid is beholden to Zionist sponsors, why else would they give the likes of Michael Stock land?

Most of the internal problems Somalis have are compounded by foreign entities who work behind the scenes. The Solution can only be brought by Somalis who come together for true reconciliation WITHOUT these so-called foreign benefactors.

The tension between the regional states and Mogadishu is caused by Damul Jadiid's incessant meddling, not the other way round. Mogadishu withholds funding meant for the whole country, steals scholarships and actively lobbies foreign donors to STOP funding regional states, let's not play dumb here.

Whether Damul Jadiid likes it or not, they found their way to power to FEDERAL Somalia, not a Centralist one.
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Somalis have too much hate for eachother and the foreign entities supplying them with money and weapons aren't helping. All the elders and politician's need to go to a secluded island sit down and talk
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Victorious26 wrote:Somalis have too much hate for eachother and the foreign entities supplying them with money and weapons aren't helping. All the elders and politician's need to go to a secluded island sit down and talk
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Get out of my topic, go find a homo community online
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Righteous wrote:Brother Sahal.

EVERY Single foreign country has an "agenda", there is no such thing as a free lunch. These funds come with caveats and soon they'll want their pound of flesh. Damul Jadiid is beholden to Zionist sponsors, why else would they give the likes of Michael Stock land?

Most of the internal problems Somalis have are compounded by foreign entities who work behind the scenes. The Solution can only be brought by Somalis who come together for true reconciliation WITHOUT these so-called foreign benefactors.

The tension between the regional states and Mogadishu is caused by Damul Jadiid's incessant meddling, not the other way round. Mogadishu withholds funding meant for the whole country, steals scholarships and actively lobbies foreign donors to STOP funding regional states, let's not play dumb here.

Whether Damul Jadiid likes it or not, they found their way to power to FEDERAL Somalia, not a Centralist one.
No they are just picking a few of them that they can exchange interests with them

Neither ethiopia or asmara can attack djibouti bc of some westren countries

Except the UK who has less hate for turkey, the EU and israel are against the islamist led turkey but it has the US backing

The US backs egypt against ethiopia by blocking from her to fund her nile project through the world bank

So its china who funds that project

The UK may back somalias economical interests against kenya bc of china landing in kenya

Its all about how you play your cards

Dj are pro-UK/US, turkey and now are communicating with saudi arabia and the UAE

Once they reach full cooperation with these two gulf countries, the somali govt will use them internationally as diplomatic channels and financiers

Eastren europe countries for weapon transactions.

I think its the best diplomacy one can go for

Some security progress, diplomatic changes and economical contracts may appear by next summer.

You need to read more the world geopolitics and how it works.
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