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Re: the somali language is so rich

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Hilaac21 wrote:How did these jareer get to Galbeed horta? Some say they were followers of the Dervish brought over from sudan?
Jareer-like people live all across lowland riverine regions where proper Somalis don't live. Somalis are a useless people (and I emphasise on the useless) who can't even do simple things like change a lifestyle permanently from pastoralism to settled farming for the most part. There are a number of theories btw, some say they are Southern Sudanese migrants/slaves, in fact old British colonialists in the area say exactly that whilst others say they are just an extension of the Bantu from southern Somalia which makes sense. They were probably brought during the Ajuraan kingdoms. As far as I know Qalaafe/Mustaxiil was big at the time as well. They did have their own language but it went extinct so we can't really know what it was like.
Perhaps the guy's accent in the video is hard to understand because it still has influences of that extinct language
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There are actually a number of types, the reer Bare in Mustaxiil/Qallafe which are just an extension of the Baladweyn Makaane in my opinion and the ones further up in Imeey called Shabeele. Those actually border the Oromos :shock: . Its possibly some of those are of indigenous southwest ethiopian in origin (SNNPR folks) while others were former Bantu slaves.

In the Ethiopian stats all are included under "Somali" which is why the Somali population stat in Ethiopia imho is a bit non-accurate. They aren't much though. Here is a somewhat limited wiki of the Rer Bare group (Godey region ones)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rer_Bare_people



There are similarities some what between "Bare" & the popular Habash phrase "Barya", add to that, that they were also called "Adona" which is clearly just a variation of the word "Adoon". The fact that they were former slaves isn't up for debate tbh.
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Re: the somali language is so rich

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Dude it makes sense cuz Qalaafe was the biggest center of the ajuuran kingdom after Xamar. You should also know Somalis never reached the the shabelle river before the Ajuuran kingdom and did not even touch the juba river untill the 1700 to 1800's fight against the gaalo madoow and their subjects we were confined to central and above it anything below had various ethnics and their slaves brought from meelo kale.
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Re: the somali language is so rich

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Hilaac21 wrote:Dude it makes sense cuz Qalaafe was the biggest center of the ajuuran kingdom after Xamar. You should also know Somalis never reached the the shabelle river before the Ajuuran kingdom and did not even touch the juba river untill the 1700 to 1800's fight against the gaalo madoow and their subjects we were confined to central and above it anything below had various ethnics and their slaves brought from meelo kale.
By Somali majority of the time we only mean Af-Maxa tiri which is the problem. Its only Af-Maxa tiri folks who invaded and conquered the southern part which originally at the time was populated by Somalid speakers like May-May, Af Jiddo, Af-Dabaare, Af-Tunni, Af-Gare all of which are in reality (no matter how much we lie to ourselves) cousin languages to the Somali.....Sort of equivalent to what Saho is to Afar. All those listed languages are laughably grouped under the big Raxanweyn banner today. Also the Gaalo-Madhow who used to be the Borana Oromos who lived in the Jubba. The Jareer which are not native to the Horn were imported & brought to Somali Lands during the Ajuran time, as you said it makes the most sense. The are the most Somalised of all Jareer groups whilst the recent 19th century Jubba former Mozambiquis who were brought during the Omani kingdom are the least Somalized.
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Re: the somali language is so rich

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Raxanweyn has a lot of gaalo madow who couldn't escape to the Tana river ( other side of garissa) like the others did. It wasn't only Gaalo madow that lived in the jubas sxb the stronger ones left and the weaks one were absorbed. The Bajuunis were so scared of the gaalo madow that they did not come back to the mainland till the somalis arrived.

The mozambiqie bantus wax ka cawaansan malahan sxb the only thing I hate about them is their use of the crocodile for voodoo practices. I will start a crocodile campaign when I go back home and eliminate all of them from the rivers just like you won't find a single alligator in U.S rivers.
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Re: the somali language is so rich

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Didn't understand any of it.
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