Re: Why should Mudug be divided into two? Federal camps so g
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:10 pm
What a farce this federalism crap is.
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I hate to say this to you but you are one hell of a hypocritical bitch umm excuse my languageMurax wrote:Osob1,
How the Federalism will be adpoted, I think should be debated that is perfectly fine. Personally if You ask me Murax, HG are more useful in fighting AS in L Shabelle than a D&M in L Shabelle, but thats just Me. All I'm saying is Federalism isn't and shouldn't be up for debate, but the implementation of it should be.
Personally in this particular case with the Central State, there is simply no other option than 1 and a half gobol. Hiiraan wants more part of it, Northern Mudug wants no part of it. I don't think Xawaadle should be forced into it, and I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it. 1 and a half is the only option, otherwise just have that region come under the Gov straight. If anything this Federal State helps Hawiye get the same seats in the upper house as Daroods. I don't understand the uproar.
Osob101 wrote:I hate to say this to you but you are one hell of a hypocritical bitch umm excuse my languageMurax wrote:Osob1,
How the Federalism will be adpoted, I think should be debated that is perfectly fine. Personally if You ask me Murax, HG are more useful in fighting AS in L Shabelle than a D&M in L Shabelle, but thats just Me. All I'm saying is Federalism isn't and shouldn't be up for debate, but the implementation of it should be.
Personally in this particular case with the Central State, there is simply no other option than 1 and a half gobol. Hiiraan wants more part of it, Northern Mudug wants no part of it. I don't think Xawaadle should be forced into it, and I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it. 1 and a half is the only option, otherwise just have that region come under the Gov straight. If anything this Federal State helps Hawiye get the same seats in the upper house as Daroods. I don't understand the uproar., you were very adamant about the two or more regions only forming a federal state but now that somehow tables have turned you seem to be pushing for a constitutional amendment for one and half gobol being able to form a federal state. Other than Bimaal who are being finances and getting owned if i may so by iljeex Garre and Digil which are the two largest non hawiye clans in the gobol support a shabelle state heck Garre holds the Presidency. Hiiraan wants to create its own Federal state and if you are going to be a sneaky little cheese head than i say Hiiraan since it is an orginal Gobol that has never been split should also be accomodated. I support a federal system but it must come from the people with proper elections and census and now some IGAD,XSM,you abti Abiweli or Nicholas Kaye. Am actually enjoying this whole drama and Fiasco because i know what Damaljadiid are up to and its an entertainment to see them doing it.
No, MJ can opt out because it is MJ, always a special case.Marques wrote:Murax doesn't see his contradictions. "I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it." Dude then what the hell is the point of federalism? Every tribe in Somalia could opt out of all federal states.
They do have a point though, if federalism is going to be based on regions then you are going to have to stick to the rules. Why shouldnt Puntland give up its share of Mudug?thegoodshepherd wrote:No, MJ can opt out because it is MJ, always a special case.Marques wrote:Murax doesn't see his contradictions. "I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it." Dude then what the hell is the point of federalism? Every tribe in Somalia could opt out of all federal states.
The whole point of the federalism endeavor was to create Jubaland, we don't really care at this point what happens.
Estarix wrote:They do have a point though, if federalism is going to be based on regions then you are going to have to stick to the rules. Why shouldnt Puntland give up its share of Mudug?thegoodshepherd wrote:No, MJ can opt out because it is MJ, always a special case.Marques wrote:Murax doesn't see his contradictions. "I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it." Dude then what the hell is the point of federalism? Every tribe in Somalia could opt out of all federal states.
The whole point of the federalism endeavor was to create Jubaland, we don't really care at this point what happens.
I am glad the kid opened up to the clannist agenda with which he propelled the Federal BS. No point taking this shit serious anymore..Estarix wrote:They do have a point though, if federalism is going to be based on regions then you are going to have to stick to the rules. Why shouldnt Puntland give up its share of Mudug?thegoodshepherd wrote:No, MJ can opt out because it is MJ, always a special case.Marques wrote:Murax doesn't see his contradictions. "I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it." Dude then what the hell is the point of federalism? Every tribe in Somalia could opt out of all federal states.
The whole point of the federalism endeavor was to create Jubaland, we don't really care at this point what happens.
Its never ending the level of falsely claims pouring out of her arse, nayaa state the truth and not something you'd hope to be true, Mr Nur Sidi doesn't support anything nor share any views of joining hawiye pushed state. Show me one source instead of ranting about some individual who was appointed governor since the fall of A.Y not because of his Garre clan having any significance in region but rather for his educational achievements and knowledge in the region. This chick is a walking a contradiction looking desperately to connect what little she finds informative and over drenching it with her imagination.Osob101 wrote:I hate to say this to you but you are one hell of a hypocritical bitch umm excuse my languageMurax wrote:Osob1,
How the Federalism will be adpoted, I think should be debated that is perfectly fine. Personally if You ask me Murax, HG are more useful in fighting AS in L Shabelle than a D&M in L Shabelle, but thats just Me. All I'm saying is Federalism isn't and shouldn't be up for debate, but the implementation of it should be.
Personally in this particular case with the Central State, there is simply no other option than 1 and a half gobol. Hiiraan wants more part of it, Northern Mudug wants no part of it. I don't think Xawaadle should be forced into it, and I don't think Laylkasse, MJ should be forced into it. 1 and a half is the only option, otherwise just have that region come under the Gov straight. If anything this Federal State helps Hawiye get the same seats in the upper house as Daroods. I don't understand the uproar., you were very adamant about the two or more regions only forming a federal state but now that somehow tables have turned you seem to be pushing for a constitutional amendment for one and half gobol being able to form a federal state. Other than Bimaal who are being finances and getting owned if i may so by iljeex Garre and Digil which are the two largest non hawiye clans in the gobol support a shabelle state heck Garre holds the Presidency. Hiiraan wants to create its own Federal state and if you are going to be a sneaky little cheese head than i say Hiiraan since it is an orginal Gobol that has never been split should also be accomodated. I support a federal system but it must come from the people with proper elections and census and now some IGAD,XSM,you abti Abiweli or Nicholas Kaye. Am actually enjoying this whole drama and Fiasco because i know what Damaljadiid are up to and its an entertainment to see them doing it.
I know your a secessionist and you dont give a damn, so my question was hardly aimed at you. Im interested in knowing the answer of those who want genuine solution under the current federalist framework and are willing to make sacrifices to move the country forward. But i can also see how im a tad unfair, Mudug can also entirely fall under Puntland technically so thats an option.quark wrote:![]()
unbelievable, nigga bounce with your 2 district and join whoever you want
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