Erdogan wins Turkey's presidency, 1st by direct vote

[gurey25]

If Turkey had a better trade deficit and was independent of Gulf hot money, it would have been more muscular in Syria.
At least northern no fly zone, and muslim brotherhood affliated millitias would be playing a role as big as ISIS right now, and dominating the other groups as well as accessing western funds.
right now muslim brotherhood are another minority group fighting in syria , where they used to dominate in the past.

[FAH1223]

If Turkey had a better trade deficit and was independent of Gulf hot money, it would have been more muscular in Syria.
At least northern no fly zone, and muslim brotherhood affliated millitias would be playing a role as big as ISIS right now, and dominating the other groups as well as accessing western funds.
right now muslim brotherhood are another minority group fighting in syria , where they used to dominate in the past.

Yeah, I forgot about that due to the recent stuff.

[waayeel101]

mabrouk mr. erdogan.
i hope he quit politics at the end of this term.

[Cherine]

No love for Erdogan here. Destroyer of Syria

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I don't hate the Turkish people, I have no respect for a muslim nation that is a member of NATO. The conquest of Constantinople is at hand.

Did Imran the GoofySufi tell you that?

[FAH1223]

No love for Erdogan here. Destroyer of Syria

How did he destroy Syria?

[sconosciuto]

How did he destroy Syria?

That's what sheikh Imran Hosein claimed. e-sista along with biko, abokor zubeyr and few others subscribe to the sheikh's views and predictions.

[Shirib]

So I must lower my head and praise the man?

All the governments of muslim states around the world of Islam have failed, so why should I clap for this buffoon? All muslim nation states have pledged their membership to the UN, which declares that it is the supreme authority in the world in matters pertaining to security and such, i.e the UN do not believe in Allah, but 1.6 billion muslims do. Not only that, we muslims testify that Allah is Al-Malik, and king is not a sufficient translation of the word, rather the Sovereign is a appropriate translation.

So if a muslim leader pledges membership to the UN, by which he consciously submits he and his nations to a organization that claims sovereignty resides in the UNSC, then what does that make the muslim leader of that nation? Who cares if he fasts, or if he prays, if he cannot believe and personalize the belief that Allah is the Sovereign, and that he is supreme, and that sovereignty is for him alone, that what does that make him? If there are institutions of Riba that are well grounded in his country what does that make him? If his nation is a member in a organization that killed many muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan what does that make him?

You know you just gave the excuse of every group and their justification. So if an Islamist group starts a war over this, what would be your reason to denounce them. Let's assume they don't go around killing civilians and their war is just with the government.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Zubair is against Erdogan however he supports ceeb aanyo which we know is controlled from US, Ethiopia and soon UN
Or he must believe that ceeb aanyo is like umar ibn al khattab r.a that will implement shariah, fight the disbelievers and never socialize with them(UN).

[gurey25]

zubair take it easy on erdogan, his party spent 20 years trying to win back control over a muslim country by anti-islam kufaar, masquerading as secular
european wannabes.
He pulled the same trick on them by outsecular and out westerning them, and then slowly chipping away at their power till they are back at their right place, just a minorty befitting their small population base of approximatly 25%.

He is still allied to nato and is still a western secular country, unfortunatley i dont think the AK party has the vision and drive and clarity of vision
to move on from here, they will still try to merge two alien and opposite things, islam and secular western identity.
and they will fail.

I expect them to be brought down by new enemies or they will transfrom into those they defeated earlier.

Erdogan just recently defeated the gullen movement and their not so secret saudi allies,
but he had to resurrect some of the secularists in the army that were recently defanged and whipped into obedience to do this.

the secularists in the army are now back somewhat and they are quietly bidding their time to strike.

Erdogan now needs to find a away to quickly push back the army's power yet again.

[Colonel]

Zubair is against Erdogan however he supports ceeb aanyo which we know is controlled from US, Ethiopia and soon UN
Or he must believe that ceeb aanyo is like umar ibn al khattab r.a that will implement shariah, fight the disbelievers and never socialize with them(UN).