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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Sacad Muse was in Hargeisa long before Sheikh Madar. We do know that in 1840s the Sacad Muse community in Hargeisa were protesting the business monopoly of Haji Sharmarke Ali Saleh after he became the governor of Zeila and later Berbera.

I will soon share where I got my source from in regards to Sheikh Madar being moved around by the British for his safety. I believe it was on Whatever Happened To Somalia by John Drysdale.
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plz do, waiting for your sources that sacad musa were there ....also how the british moved sheekh madar around..!!
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Sheekh Madar along with 7 other Qaadiriya Mullah's settled in Hargaysa , so can the sacad muuse tell me why their particular mullah is the founder????? and not the other 6? for instance Kabiir Cumar who isn't even Isaaq.


faanka iyo beenta dadka ka daaya, Hargaysa was always temporarily settled by different moving nomads , the first permenant settlement was by these Qaadiriyah Mullahs , there is nothing special about Sheekh Madar he was just the head of the Qaadriya tariiqa no different then Sheekh Axmed of the Sheekh axmediya or sheikh Cali Carab of Xaaxi Axmediya Tariiqa.
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Hawdian wrote:Sacad Muse was in Hargeisa long before Sheikh Madar. We do know that in 1840s the Sacad Muse community in Hargeisa were protesting the business monopoly of Haji Sharmarke Ali Saleh after he became the governor of Zeila and later Berbera.

I will soon share where I got my source from in regards to Sheikh Madar being moved around by the British for his safety. I believe it was on Whatever Happened To Somalia by John Drysdale.
Rubbish there was no Hargaysa in the 1840, no Sacad Muuse was in hargaysa in the 1840's , the Sacad Muuse were in Bulaxaar as recently as the 1900s , the Reer Axmed for example left Berbera around the 1920's. in the 1840's Xaaji Sharmaarke lived in Berbera only around 1849 did he manage to take over Zeila,
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Who cares about the occupants of hargeysa all I know is the capital will change in the future.
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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People confuse Toga herer with the modern Hargeysa city Toga herer was the Cabdi Ciise Valley of the Ciidagale branch the Cabdalle Isxaaq and and the Sacad muse of the Siciid ismaciil the Axmed cabdalle and Samatar cabdalle were always there in herer, there During the Mullahs who came from Berbera and Ethiopia Hawd Sheikh madar Haji Farax and Sheikh Muxummad of the reer Liibaan. When the reer Shirdoon and the reer Axmed fought in Berbera the reer Axmed made a defense pact with Sultan Diiriye the Ciidagale Sultan. Prior to the British Hargeysa became the market for Haraga the harag market , and ofcourse the Arab were always there through out their wars the Arabs and their struggle with nuur dhagocun.. Any way Hargeysa 100 years ago 3000 people max ba ku noola haday ugu badato and people were xoolo dhaqato. There is not one founder of Hargeysa it was a collective creation of various clans of the Isaaq.
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Hodan94 wrote:Who cares about the occupants of hargeysa all I know is the capital will change in the future.

not in a million years ilaahay burco iyo meela xanuunka qabyalaada na ma geeyoo
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Khalid Ali wrote:
Hodan94 wrote:Who cares about the occupants of hargeysa all I know is the capital will change in the future.

not in a million years ilaahay burco iyo meela xanuunka qabyalaada na ma geeyoo
Who said burco?
im thinking borame or sheikh
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Borama is to close to the Ethiopian border

Sheikh maybe

But hargeysa is fine the biggest city of SL and when we expand the city beyond the Hills it will be largest city in the Somali peninsula
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Fine I have decidd that burco cannot be capital, I dont want ajanabis destroying and urbanising the city.
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H town remains the capital the center of SL

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Sultan Guleed, Sultan Diiriye, Sheikh Madar, Xaji Farax, Sheikh Muxummad, Xaji Magan, Farax Nur, Shire sharmarke, Gerad Cabdalle

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couldnt agree more brother khaleed.
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Ramzy are you reer hargeisa or are you an illegal immigrant
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i am reer hargeisa....xafada 26 june but originaly from 10-20 km north of hargeisa in village called malwle.

how about you?.....are you reer hargeisa or a wannabe Qoti ?....by the way my barees is mandy....but u can serve me baryani if u dont have that.
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Re: who is the founder of hargeisa and what is the proof?

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Ramzy waa reer malwale :lupe:
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