The rebellion spread. In 1979, a group of Isaaq expatriates formed the Somali National Movement (SNM), with the goal of overthrowing Barre. By 1982, the SNM were ready to launch an invasion of northern Somalia from their base in Ethiopia.
October 21st
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Re: October 21st
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Re: October 21st
With the 1979 Iranian revolution, the U.S. lost a key ally in the Middle East. The proximity of the Horn of Africa to Gulf oil shipping routes gave Somalia a new strategic importance. In order to maintain military bases there, the U.S. government gave Barre’s regime $163.5 million in military technology, and four times as much in economic aid from 1980-1988. With U.S. support, Barre’s army swelled to number some 120,000 troops. This formidable war-machine would be turned against its own civilians.
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Re: October 21st
Throughout the early 1980s, the Barre regime used increasingly repressive tactics to suppress dissidents from all clans, with particular brutality in the northwest.
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Re: October 21st
The assault focused on Hargeisa—the second-largest city in Somalia—where bombing sorties flown by Somali pilots and by South African and ex-Rhodesian mercenaries destroyed an estimated 70% of the city. The attack struck residential neighborhoods the hardest and leveled most of the city; over 5,000 civilians were killed.
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Re: October 21st
positive jaalle maxamed siyaad barre achievements during his first 10 years.
1. qoristii afsomaliga
2. dhismihii xooga dalka
3.duqayntii itoobiya.
negative dhiigyacab afweyne barre policies during his last 10 years.
1.trusting people like morgan
2. karbaashing somali republic's 3 most powerfull clans, first mj then isaaq then hawiye.
3. at the same time promoting and boosting smaller clans like his own marehan,dhulos etc.
3. giving up western somali land (ogadenia) to ethiopia in order to defeat SNM . gues what happened ? some of his last remaining loyal clans (ogaden) stood against him. infact the OG muj omar jees led some those who stormed banadir region. Thats the fate of a dictator.
1. qoristii afsomaliga
2. dhismihii xooga dalka
3.duqayntii itoobiya.
negative dhiigyacab afweyne barre policies during his last 10 years.
1.trusting people like morgan
2. karbaashing somali republic's 3 most powerfull clans, first mj then isaaq then hawiye.
3. at the same time promoting and boosting smaller clans like his own marehan,dhulos etc.
3. giving up western somali land (ogadenia) to ethiopia in order to defeat SNM . gues what happened ? some of his last remaining loyal clans (ogaden) stood against him. infact the OG muj omar jees led some those who stormed banadir region. Thats the fate of a dictator.
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Re: October 21st
This is always an infected debate. Every somali has an opinion about the causes of the revolution as well as how it progressed. The majority of somalis loved the kacaan until the late 1970s when it lost its marxist compass. The reasons could be debated.
I think it is important to distinguish between the kacaan and its leaders.
Indeed, some could argue that the seeds of our problems today were sawn in 1969 when a democratically elected government was overthrown albeit in a bloodless coup. Others could also argue that the kacaan took place because of widespread tribalism and corruption. And that the kacaan (at least for a decade or so) formed our identity as a strong nation. It built institutions, it gave as a written language and that we became feared as a great nation. As a matter of fact, many of the artefacts of the "kacaan" (everything from governance to institutions) are potent. Many people in Somalia view the kacaan times with nostalgia.
Whatever views we hold, the 21st of october, is a day to remember for good or worse.
BTW: this was how the kacaan was announced on the morning of the 21st October, 1969.
I think it is important to distinguish between the kacaan and its leaders.
Indeed, some could argue that the seeds of our problems today were sawn in 1969 when a democratically elected government was overthrown albeit in a bloodless coup. Others could also argue that the kacaan took place because of widespread tribalism and corruption. And that the kacaan (at least for a decade or so) formed our identity as a strong nation. It built institutions, it gave as a written language and that we became feared as a great nation. As a matter of fact, many of the artefacts of the "kacaan" (everything from governance to institutions) are potent. Many people in Somalia view the kacaan times with nostalgia.
Whatever views we hold, the 21st of october, is a day to remember for good or worse.
BTW: this was how the kacaan was announced on the morning of the 21st October, 1969.
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Re: October 21st
Waa laga raystey Siyaad Barre iyo Xukuumaddiisii...Bal Arka
1. Horumarka Somaaliya gaadhay.
2. Sharafka adduunka aynu ku yeelanay.
3. Midnimada Somaaliyeed.
4. Badaheena iyo berrigeena sida loo ilaalinayo.
5. Khayraadkeena badda sida aan u ilaalineyno.
6. Sida sharafka leh ee tahriibku u socdo.
7. Sida sharafka leh ee budhcad badeedda aynu uga shaqaysnayno.
8. sida aynu is qarxiska iyo amuuraha u baranay.
9. Sida aynu tobanka dawladood u noqoney..Fiicanaa oo wacanaa..
10. shan madaxweyne yaa heli kara...
11. Walaalheen Xabashi iyo Africaan kale oo laga amar qaato yaa heli kara??
Somaaliya way duushey laga reysey Siyaad Barre
1. Horumarka Somaaliya gaadhay.
2. Sharafka adduunka aynu ku yeelanay.
3. Midnimada Somaaliyeed.
4. Badaheena iyo berrigeena sida loo ilaalinayo.
5. Khayraadkeena badda sida aan u ilaalineyno.
6. Sida sharafka leh ee tahriibku u socdo.
7. Sida sharafka leh ee budhcad badeedda aynu uga shaqaysnayno.
8. sida aynu is qarxiska iyo amuuraha u baranay.
9. Sida aynu tobanka dawladood u noqoney..Fiicanaa oo wacanaa..
10. shan madaxweyne yaa heli kara...
11. Walaalheen Xabashi iyo Africaan kale oo laga amar qaato yaa heli kara??
Somaaliya way duushey laga reysey Siyaad Barre

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- LiquidHYDROGEN
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Re: October 21st
Adjusted for inflation that means Siad Barre spent anything from $1.5 billion to over $2 billion , in killing Somalis. Let that sink in...$2 billion.Jasmine6 wrote:With the 1979 Iranian revolution, the U.S. lost a key ally in the Middle East. The proximity of the Horn of Africa to Gulf oil shipping routes gave Somalia a new strategic importance. In order to maintain military bases there, the U.S. government gave Barre’s regime $163.5 million in military technology, and four times as much in economic aid from 1980-1988. With U.S. support, Barre’s army swelled to number some 120,000 troops. This formidable war-machine would be turned against its own civilians.
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Re: October 21st
Jasmine6 wrote:In 1978, military officers from the Majeerteen clan launched a coup attempt. The Red Berets, military special forces, responded by destroying water reservoirs in Majeerteen areas. As a result, an estimated 2,000 Majeerteen died of thirst. Paramilitaries also waged a campaign of sexual violence against Majeerteen women.
Imagine thegoodshepard, your mother could have been one of them...




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Re: October 21st
Bro, that's very badly done. Morons shouldn't incite you behave like them.skywalker25 wrote:Jasmine6 wrote:In 1978, military officers from the Majeerteen clan launched a coup attempt. The Red Berets, military special forces, responded by destroying water reservoirs in Majeerteen areas. As a result, an estimated 2,000 Majeerteen died of thirst. Paramilitaries also waged a campaign of sexual violence against Majeerteen women.
Imagine thegoodshepard, your mother could have been one of them...![]()
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Re: October 21st
Indeed.Xanuunku wrote:thegoodshepherd wrote:May god bless Jaale Siyaad, the last truely wadani Somali leader. At least he will not see what we have become.
Beautiful.
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Re: October 21st
You should go and read a Book. While you and those like you trivialise about teaching the language and or looking respectful you brush aside the killings and injustice reported by any respectful Human Rights organisations...kambuli wrote:Waa laga raystey Siyaad Barre iyo Xukuumaddiisii...Bal Arka
1. Horumarka Somaaliya gaadhay.
2. Sharafka adduunka aynu ku yeelanay.
3. Midnimada Somaaliyeed.
4. Badaheena iyo berrigeena sida loo ilaalinayo.
5. Khayraadkeena badda sida aan u ilaalineyno.
6. Sida sharafka leh ee tahriibku u socdo.
7. Sida sharafka leh ee budhcad badeedda aynu uga shaqaysnayno.
8. sida aynu is qarxiska iyo amuuraha u baranay.
9. Sida aynu tobanka dawladood u noqoney..Fiicanaa oo wacanaa..
10. shan madaxweyne yaa heli kara...
11. Walaalheen Xabashi iyo Africaan kale oo laga amar qaato yaa heli kara??
Somaaliya way duushey laga reysey Siyaad Barre
Re: October 21st
The kacanka was initially a positive influence on Somalia until Jalle Siyad made it a one man show and after 1977, Somalia was a Mareexan fiefdom. You would have ignorant geeljire Mareexans being brought from the bush and being awarded cushy governmental jobs. Naar aya suugeyso Insha Allah.
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Re: October 21st
It was an Issaq man, Col Habane who was later a leader in SNM, whom I hold responsible.skywalker25 wrote:Jasmine6 wrote:In 1978, military officers from the Majeerteen clan launched a coup attempt. The Red Berets, military special forces, responded by destroying water reservoirs in Majeerteen areas. As a result, an estimated 2,000 Majeerteen died of thirst. Paramilitaries also waged a campaign of sexual violence against Majeerteen women.
Imagine thegoodshepard, your mother could have been one of them...![]()
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Jalle Siyad never gave the order to bury wells and murder women and children; it was Habane who decided to do that and he was immediately sacked.
May god bless Jalle Siyad and widen his tomb,
Aamin
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Re: October 21st
Col Habane is in Hargeysa, would you be willing to exchange him for Morgan? One war criminal for another.
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