What's going on in Hiiraan?

[Khalid Ali]

GJ jamac where do the Xawaadles get the weapons from , xawaadluhu ma warshad hubka samaysa bay bule burde ku leeyihin?

Somaha hUbka dawlada xassan bixiso xassan is half xawaadle , he is helping his maternal uncles.

[GIJaamac]

GJ jamac where do the Xawaadles get the weapons from , xawaadluhu ma warshad hubka samaysa bay bule burde ku leeyihin?

Somaha hUbka dawlada xassan bixiso xassan is half xawaadle , he is helping his maternal uncles.

Dadka dowladaan kahor hub ma heysanin miyaa ? Dir propaganda ayuu run u moooday.

[zumaale]

GI, we are talking about logistics. You know how expensive maintaining a war is. Without government resources, you think Qaran money would be enough to wage a war for 12 months.

[GIJaamac]

There was no non-stop war for 12 months. Just little ku dhufo ka dhaqaaq battles here and there. Stop f-king crying man, hadaadan dadka iska dhicinkarin marka horeba ha isku taagtaagin.

[zumaale]

There was no non-stop war for 12 months. Just little ku dhufo ka dhaqaaq battles here and there. Stop f-king crying man, hadaadan dadka iska dhicinkarin marka horeba ha isku taagtaagin.

GI, since last January they have been four battles where Xawadles lost more than a 100 men. It ain't ku dhufo ka dhaqaq. Also, cid isu taagtaagne ma jiro, nin dhulkisa difaacayo waa muujahid laakin niinka ku dhiinto dagaal dulmi eh waa ahlul naar. But you wouldn't know anything about that, Xaranta waa beeri hoore reerkada Xalal ka dhiigen.

[GIJaamac]

Sxb are you stupid or what ? Dir are not natives in south-central Somalia. They are recent arrivals from Kilinka Shanaad. That's why you aren't concentrated in one place.

[zumaale]

Sxb are you stupid or what ? Dir are not natives in south-central Somalia. They are recent arrivals from Kilinka Shanaad. That's why you aren't concentrated in one place.

Recent lool. Dude when your ancestors were fighting Keynadid, Biyomal were fighting the Italians. Not native kulaha.

The only Dirs not concentrated in one place in the South are Surre because they were Culuma and Faqis. The ancestor of the Faqi Maxamed Surres of Deefow came almost 600 years ago and you are saying they came recently.

Anyway fadhi ku dirir wax ma tarto, Illahi wala hor istaago doona. Laakin wixi ka soocdo LS and Hiiraan Somali idil aya oog ninki xaran udagalayo.

[Khalid Ali]

GJ jamac where do the Xawaadles get the weapons from , xawaadluhu ma warshad hubka samaysa bay bule burde ku leeyihin?

Somaha hUbka dawlada xassan bixiso xassan is half xawaadle , he is helping his maternal uncles.

Dadka dowladaan kahor hub ma heysanin miyaa ? Dir propaganda ayuu run u moooday.

its not a fair fight , Gacanyare stands for Cadaala the Xamar government sends re enforcement , SNA troops are a clan Militia so called Dawlad troops are they conscripted also from the Dir I doubt it, the same way in Lower shabelle. But everything is possible in Somalia since the rule of the Jungle is upheld by the people the Militia and the so called government. Once its a fair fight its good to see who wins Militia against Militia with out interference gadh gahd ba la tusa mano i mano.

[GIJaamac]

Again there was no Dir presence in south-central somalia just 300 years ago. You are recent arrivals. Mida kale sxbow horta i used to believe that Dir was an innocent clan just 2 years ago. I turn out to be wrong. What you have to do is, every time when you lose in the battlefield, adkeysi u yeelo and don't cry in the media. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. That's life. There is no state sponsored massacre going on as you want to make it seem.

Khalid ali

SNA consists of very clan in the region and it's open for every clan to join. Your argument doesn't work.

[original dervish]

Just three hundred years eh......I've waited longer for a bus.

[GeoSeven]

GI, we are talking about logistics. You know how expensive maintaining a war is. Without government resources, you think Qaran money would be enough to wage a war for 12 months.

Talk about delusions of grandeur

Zumaale, according to my understanding, the local Dir have been expelled across the border, correct? They've rejected dialogue and their plan is to come back and regain their villages by sheer force against the Hawadle clans. In what circle of reason is that classed as a sound plan?

[anzeloti]

The solution is simple dont start a war u cant win


OD stop pretending like u care about the well being of Dir u opened this thread to criticize Hawiye and HSM in particular


having said that Allah kala qabojiyo Somalida....

[zumaale]

GI, we are talking about logistics. You know how expensive maintaining a war is. Without government resources, you think Qaran money would be enough to wage a war for 12 months.

Talk about delusions of grandeur

Zumaale, according to my understanding, the local Dir have been expelled across the border, correct? They've rejected dialogue and their plan is to come back and regain their villages by sheer force against the Hawadle clans. In what circle of reason is that classed as a sound plan?

What dialogue? not lets argue for the sake of arguing. The bottom line is your kin do not want to negotiate and are on a quest to land grab villages and farms which aren't theirs. You have the benefit of being centralised in Hiiraan whereas the Surre clans are not concentrated in Hiiraan. Our fight is just , what other option do we have? Whoever dies protecting is home is a martyr, can you say the same? How can you talk of dialogue when your lot have not withdrawn from our villages.

Anzeloti, do some research bro, we did't start any war, they launched an attack on defenceless religious agrarian communities.

[Xildiiid]

Ismaciil Neef doesn't care about his Dir people.

His soldiers are there and they're watching how their clansmen are being murdered by land grabbing Hawiye, who at times of defeat blame Somaliland. lol

[GeoSeven]

they launched an attack on defenceless religious agrarian communities.

So they woke up one morning and decided they'd batter and disenfranchise the religious community living there for generations? Bollocks.

You know, there's really no point in providing a balance of perspective to issues such as these. There's a natural human inclination to agree with and affirm an underdogs grievance, couple that with a culture of qabiil partisanship....

Even if the Dir are spinning tales on a scale of Goebbels, it'd still be a futile effort for the Hawadle to explain themselves outside a
Hawiye circle