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Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:04 am
by djibsomali
Samaroon is an dish best served cold!

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:49 am
by SultanOrder
sophisticate wrote:
Antijuli wrote:Excuse my ignorance but what is somaroon? Is it a clan or a region? The name looks interesting. How do you pronounce it?
Samaroon refers to a large cross-section of Gadabursi. They are mistakenly used interchangeably. However all Samaroon are Gadabursi, but not all Gadabursi are Samaroon. It's kind of confusing I know.
Gedabursi are much too far away from us Darood :(

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:49 pm
by Sophisticate
Perfect_Order wrote:
sophisticate wrote:
Antijuli wrote:Excuse my ignorance but what is somaroon? Is it a clan or a region? The name looks interesting. How do you pronounce it?
Samaroon refers to a large cross-section of Gadabursi. They are mistakenly used interchangeably. However all Samaroon are Gadabursi, but not all Gadabursi are Samaroon. It's kind of confusing I know.
Gedabursi are much too far away from us Darood :(
Not really. In Ethiopia Geri Kombe live near them. If you mean collectively, then yes. Gadabursi mostly live in the northwest. Why so sad PO?

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:20 pm
by MujahidAishah
Unless your not classing ogaden as darood

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:46 pm
by Sophisticate
AishahWaqooyi wrote:Unless your not classing ogaden as darood
They are Aisha,but I thought they didn't live near them. In Ethiopia, Ogaden and Gadabursi clans don't border each other. :notsure:

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:04 pm
by Jugjugwacwac
sophisticate wrote:
Samaroon refers to a large cross-section of Gadabursi. They are mistakenly used interchangeably. However all Samaroon are Gadabursi, but not all Gadabursi are Samaroon. It's kind of confusing I know.
No way, I did not know that. Please expand on this. Which Gadabuursi clans are subsumed under samaroon, and which aren't?

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:30 pm
by HorseedS
Gadabursi waa labo qof why divide them? :pac:














Jk :whoa:

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:26 pm
by Sophisticate
Jugjugwacwac wrote:
sophisticate wrote:
Samaroon refers to a large cross-section of Gadabursi. They are mistakenly used interchangeably. However all Samaroon are Gadabursi, but not all Gadabursi are Samaroon. It's kind of confusing I know.
No way, I did not know that. Please expand on this. Which Gadabuursi clans are subsumed under samaroon, and which aren't?
The vast majority are Samaroon. I'm not too sure about Makahil and Mahad Case. The only ones that I am aware of that are not are among Habar Afan.There are 12 clans among Habar Afan and three are only Gadabursi but not Samaroon. Namely Hibe jire, Ali Ganoon and Jibraacin.

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:06 am
by MujahidAishah
sophisticate wrote:
AishahWaqooyi wrote:Unless your not classing ogaden as darood
They are Aisha,but I thought they didn't live near them. In Ethiopia, Ogaden and Gadabursi clans don't border each other. :notsure:
I meant distance wise ogaden are the nearest darood to samroon.. Never knew all gadarbursi are not samroon what's the reason were they adopted

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:57 am
by Lamagoodle
:mindblown: How did this, otherwise, excellent topic turn into qabiil this and qabiil that?

BTW, did you read this?
http://sahanjournal.com/abdi-good-bashi ... PquVk0tHoY

Bashir Goth is in my opinion one of a few intellectuals that our nation has ever produced. :up:

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:24 am
by Grant
Lamagoodle wrote::mindblown: How did this, otherwise, excellent topic turn into qabiil this and qabiil that?

BTW, did you read this?
http://sahanjournal.com/abdi-good-bashi ... PquVk0tHoY

Bashir Goth is in my opinion one of a few intellectuals that our nation has ever produced. :up:
Thank you, Sir, a good read, and a possible good start to a great debate.

I regret to say I think it's me that's the problem. It seems these days the trolls come out before the posts get read.

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:01 am
by Lamagoodle
Grant, I agree with Bashir on everything about somalis(a). Visit his blog http://hanua.blogspot.se/

Our people, our culture, our religion and almost all our institutions are under fire from a new form of colonialism.

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:13 pm
by Sophisticate
Lamagoodle and Grant, it was me that changed the course of your thread. And I assure you I'm the furthest thing from a troll. :)

Anyway, for the most part music is inextricably linked to culture. There is no culture in this world that is without music and there is no music without culture. Music helps us to rally around a cause we support. Singing boosts the moral of soldiers an actually helps them win a war. Let me go a step further. The idea of clan is also a universal one. People tend to organize around some kind of common interest or shared identity. Lamagoodle and Grant are lovers of the arts - Somali music and that's their shared interest. They've bonded over this. The problem with Somalis is that the tribe, which is still used as a form of political and economic leverage, is not merely used as a way to bond or create a sense of inclusiveness but is used as a tool to create myopic differentiation and discord among sub-clans (qabyaalad). I attribute this more to lack of education and awareness and over reliance on clans for support (back home). Somalis are certainly in a precarious state. Music is typified as Xaram, unless its Arabic, I kid you not that's what some people actually think (even then its also under siege). :snoop: If there is anything I find peculiar its the self-designated virtue police that try to force you to stop listening to music. It's an individual choice. Also, you can't force someone to stop singing or listening to music. :? However, singing was often associated with a certain lifestyle that exposed one to drug use. I know, but that does not infer that all artists partake. :Shrug:.

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:40 pm
by Thuganomics
Music
is typified as Xaram, unless its
Arabic,
Come on Soph

Re: Bashir Goth is on a Roll!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:58 pm
by Sophisticate
Thuganomics wrote:
Music
is typified as Xaram, unless its
Arabic,
Come on Soph
I've been to a couple mehers and I've overheard the Xalaal music and Xaram music debate. :pac: