How long do you see yourself living in the West?

[Shirib]

I can't predict the future, but probably for the rest of my life.

[PLATINUUM]

well i liven canada....so i don't face immediate danger. only people that ever die here is because of gang violence. Any who i give myself forever if everything goes well. although i want to to move to syria or somalia when they get better some day for about a year or two. but i have to finish my undergrad and med school first. I was thinking asia too. But i would never go anywhere near europe. white people aside, i don't want to be burned at a stake because they hate muslims.

[0sman]

If my people weren't clan-worshiping dickheads I wouldn't probably be here in the first place, and if I did I would already be back home.

Just check this Tima-cadde poem out:

Dul iyo hoosba waan ugu dhigay waa dix dhagaxeede
Anuunbaa danqanayee dhaguhu uma daloolaane
Dadkaan la hadlayaa baan lahayn dux iyo iimaane
Bal inay dafoof tahay caqliga dooni laga saaray
Wixii hore usoo daashaday bay degashanaysaaye

Doc hadday u wada jeedsatooy dhowrto danaheeda
Ooy duul walaala ah tahay ooy duunka ka heshiiso
Dadka kama yaraateene ways dabar jaraysaaye
Dubba madaxa wayskala dhacdaa daa'in abidkiise
Goortay is wada dooxatay baa daad u soo geliye

Ubadkiinii waad daadiseen waana dubateene
Dubaaxdiisii waad wada cunteen duhur dharaareede
Dariiq toosan Soomaaliyey waa lagaa dadaye ................

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Dir dir la isu laayiyo intaan weerar daba joogno
Ooy dumarku weerkii sitaan danabadii waayey
Dabac-yaa lahaayay intaynu isu dooxayno
Uu sida dureemada u yaal meydku dibaddiinna
Kollaba doogsan maysaan intaad dunida joogtaane
Dugsi male qabyaaladi waxay dumiso mooyaane


When did he write that, like almost a century ago, was it? And still we didn't grow out of that primitive and destructive disease so I don't think I am going back home anytime soon and see myself living in the West at least in the foreseeable future.

Just imagine moving back home and with the remnants of Al-Kabaab roaches still carrying out suicide missions on government buildings and public hotels, what if the government & its foreign forces get weakened and Al-Kabaab and its sympathizers make a return? And then you realize the mistake you made and decide to go back to the Western country you had its citizenship, but not so quick! With the current wave of anti-Islam in many Western countries and statements like "since they left and decided to fight with Islamists in foreign countries, don't let them back in and cancel their passports as well" on popular sites and forums, what about if such sentiments become mainstream and accepted by the politicians hence denied reentry since you're returning from Al-Kabaab-infested territory? No, thanks.

[LeJusticier]

I live here and fully integrated....I will go home just for holiday but not to live there.

[zulaika]

I had a plan and I was going to move as soon as .... then I found a potentially more lucrative path that would keep me here longer (maybe even settling here) lakin with Muslims set to be the next Jews of Europe and history is looking like it's going to repeat itself, I'm not sure I want to risk being in a concentration camp for any amount of money.


Do you think it's all going to die down or is this the beginning of the end for Muslims in Europe?

Not just in Europe, the masses in the west are bombarded with anti Islam sentiment under the guise of "extremism". It's only a matter of time before these austerity governments, increasingly squandering public resources..will offer a visible enemy, a minority foreigner to be sacrificed at the alter of public frustration.

[SummerRain]

We have been saying we will go back for many years now. Infact, I met many non-Somali friends who told me their parents have never settled properly in the West and have always yearned to move back home once their children grow up and finish their education. What eventuates is some of their parents do go back and retire in their countries of origin which is peaceful, cheaper and would be considered upper middle class with their savings and their superannuation. However, they leave behind their children and their young families who want to educate their children in the West and this forms family dislocation.

Let us be real, where will a Somali who isn't a sijui go back to? Many have tried and gave up the idea due to lack of opportunities, safety and accessing good education and medical care for them and their children. Even if we go back, one will be forced to settle in his tribal homeland and uprooted from his original settlement because of qabyaalad. If you are a Somali from Nordic countries, you have the opportunity to live multiple countries, same for those in the U.S, Canada, Australia and in New Zealand who could with ease move to another State or region if their choice. We haven't worked out why the case should be like this for quarter of a century.

Those who fled Somalia as children took the qabyaalad baton from their parents. Regardless of their educational achievements or not, they keep alive (see qolka politics aka qabyaaladda) the balkanisation of Somalia into KaboLand and DacasLand. Which Somalia are we going back to? Tahriibs see and understand the realities on the ground but still prefer to go through a dangerous journey if they could reach their destination and be accepted. All these factors and many more, dhexda xidho, fight for your Rights as a Muslim citizen because meek loo socdo ayaa jidhin.

This is a reasonable and well thought out post. A very lucid reflection of what awaits most Somalis. There are those like me who feel strongly about wanting nothing to do with this sort of Somalia (the current situation) and don't see myself completely relocating, definitely not till I send my kids to college and probably for retirement. I value stability and I know that's what I get if I raise them here. My mother has started to visit annually but even she can't completely move back. She just doesn't feel it's the Somalia she grew up in and the people and culture changed drastically.

[BlackRain]

I become part of growing Somali Diaspora in the west who fed up with life in the west. I started fresh business in Kenya and waiting the first chance Somalia gets peace to move there for good. I will only go to U.S summer time for vocation and visit family and friends. West and Stress is one item

[BlackVelvet]

I had a plan and I was going to move as soon as .... then I found a potentially more lucrative path that would keep me here longer (maybe even settling here) lakin with Muslims set to be the next Jews of Europe and history is looking like it's going to repeat itself, I'm not sure I want to risk being in a concentration camp for any amount of money.


Do you think it's all going to die down or is this the beginning of the end for Muslims in Europe?

Not just in Europe, the masses in the west are bombarded with anti Islam sentiment under the guise of "extremism". It's only a matter of time before these austerity governments, increasingly squandering public resources..will offer a visible enemy, a minority foreigner to be sacrificed at the alter of public frustration.

Exactly. It's quite scary

[CaliQase]

Walle this is funny. Niggas back home would give up their xiniyo to tahrib to the West idiinkana you guys are tryna tahrib back home.

They are f**ing idiots, what would you expect?
On a more serious note: the stupidest thing one can do is to cross the Mediterranean Sea, using nothing but an old and overloaded fishing boat, only to be given a white man's benefits and be called a minority.

Inaan iskala waynaaano ayay ahayd intaa.

[TheblueNwhite]

That ship has sailed to the Indian Ocean. I got everything I need from the West.
Africa is where is at.

[Marques]

I work in the city and go out with my friends every weekend, life's good for now. Dunno what Africa has to offer me at this age.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I work in the city and go out with my friends every weekend, life's good for now. Dunno what Africa has to offer me at this age.

You say that like the people back home don't have any social life. And unless you drink, going out on the weekend gets a bit boring and repetitive after a while.

[Lancer]

I'm going to worry about finishing school and finding a job in my field first before I think about going back.

[Deeqaaa]

I got my degree. Hope to go back within next 5-8 yearz inshaAllah.

[salool]

Allaho aclam.