Response to Reer Buuhoodle

[Xildiiid]

Apologize for what? I've said before that the only family in HJ who would side with us just like we sided with them is the reer Daahir.

Aadan Madoobe and Yeesif who live with us in Qorilugud have been affected by the clashes. One of the men wounded in the recent attack was an Aadan Madoobe nomad. The Kastuumos killed a Yeesif man a couple of months ago outside Maygaagle but that man was revenged by Solomadow who killed 3 Bint Qurjiles for that Yeesif man.

However this does not take away the fact that some HJ like Cimraan and Axmed Farax are anti Solomadow and they've hold "nabadeyn" conferences with the Qurjiiles without the knowledge of Solomadow. In reality the conferences were conspiracies to push Solomadow from both sides.

[abdikarim86]

Jaamac Kuutiye is he not the man who played a role in
the murder of the Italian woman in Boorama and the English couple in Sheekh back in 2003?

Ninkaasi dowlada SL iyo kuwii u dilay ayuu xidhan yahay.

To make his release a precondition for peace, shows they are not
serious about peace.

Its not like HJ as a clan can effect his release

[Xildiiid]

^
Yh, he's the terrorist who killed the Italian teacher in Borama and the British couple in Sheikh who were involved in Sheikh veterinary school. He was captured in Dhoqoshay trying to escape to their little terrorist safe haven Buhoodle and ever since he's been rotting in Hargeisa central prison like the Xaaraami he is.

[skywalker25]

Xildiid

Your clutching straws.

Horta Ahmed Farah is a huge tribe with some settling in deep Hawd, these have historical fought besides Reer Daahir and are tough nuts. Even when the relationship between Ahmed farah and Reer Daahir was at its lowest they could be counted on. I can't see things deteriorating to the stage where they sit out totally.


Ps,

If Habar Jeclo arm themselves and disregard the SL government. I see two outcomes.

1, Dhulbahnte will all leave Somaliland and declare war

2, Habar Jeclo will fight SL and Somaliland will implode

These two outcomes are what the Khatumo seegs have been hoping for.

Having said that SL government took its eye of the ball. It should have been clever and armed our militia and after a low level control conflict forced the other side to accept terms. But, it did the opposite with negative result, obviously...

[Jugjugwacwac]

PO,

The terms dialect and accent are synonyms. In contrast to popular belief, 2 main dialects among Somalis do not exist, there are more however all these dialects are offshoots of the proto Somali language. The May dialect (not a real dialect but a confederation of dialects just as Maxaa) being the closest to proto Somali hence why a Rendille can understand a Garre to some extent. The dialects spoken in Hiiraan or the upper Shaabeelle valley all the way to Djibouti have an affinity just like the various dialects in the inter riverine area collectively known as May have an affinity to one and other.

Those men in the video speak with the "reer Waqooyi dialect", it's ridiculous to imply they speak like the people of Wardheer who add a H to everything they say for instance "dagaalamhayaa" instead of "dagaalamaya" or "Cunhayaa" instead of "Cunaya"

Secondly we can't be Qaldaan when our dialect is the base and source for standard Somali.

The terms dialect and accent aren't synonomous. Accent refers to variation in sound, with no connotation to differences in grammar. Dialect is more ecompassing, and inludes accent plus differences in grammatical features. Af May is not a dialect of Af Maxaa, but rather passes as it own language. This is because it has very low mutual intelligibility with Af Maxaa, failing the dialect litmus test of being readily comprehensible to speakers of each with no instruction. You are correct about the May langauge being closer to proto Somali in many ways than Af Maxaa, but you've grossly overstated the level of affinity between what you deem May dialects by comparing them to the affiinty between the various af maxaa regional dialects. Af-dabarre, Jiidu, Tunni, af-garre and boon are not mutually intelligible amongst each other nor with the standard af-May, prompting linguists to deem all of these seperate langauges and not dialects of May. As for af-maxaa, a man from Baardheere all the way in Gedo, or from jalalaqsi in Hiiraan, will have no problem communicating with an Ciisa man living in a village in Djibouti bordering the Canfar. Somalis love to exaggerate our petty differences, when our similarities are so striking and remarkable, especially in the linguistic uniformity among af-maxaa speakers.

[ramzy2277]

whose this guy..?!!... I knew he is dholos once he said Isaq vs Dholos...they always love to magnify themselves against the whole of reer sheekh isxaaq...what a sever inferiority complex.

[ramzy2277]

by the way,for those who know the dholos abtiris...which sub is sanwayen from?...are they from naleye axmed?....my habarwadag is sanwayen, naleyeh ahmed.

[Jugjugwacwac]

again @ PO & Xildiid

sorry to hijack the clan warmongering thread, but it's interesting to hear the clear differences in dialect between what I would classify as a waqooyi accent and the accent of the man speaking in the video.

I would have honestly assumed the man was from Mudug if I didn't know better. This is a phenomenon I have observed before with one of my Isaaq friend's parents who spoke in two completely different accents, one that was nearly indistinguishably from my own and another that was nearly unintelligible to me

Any Somali linguists care to share their two cents, Jugjugwacwac maybe?

Based, your assumptions are right for the most part. I wouldn't say the men in the first video sound like they're from Mudug, because they still have all the stereotypical waqooyi speech patterns eg. pronouncing the 'dh' instead of 'r', 'yidhi' not 'yiri'. Not adding the 'ha' in the middle of verbs as they do in Mudug, eg 'imanayaa' vs 'imanahayaa'. Basically the eastern Somaliland clans (eastern HY, eastern HJ and Dhulbahante) speak a more clear (to the ears of a non-waqooyi) waqooyi dialect compared to those in the west. Isaaqs who speak this way live predominantly in Sool and Sanaag.The more west you go the more 'qowdhan' or 'qaldaan' the dialect for a non-waqooyi listener. The worst offenders are the 'huuno' speakers of the Ciise, Gadabuursi and parts of the Habar Awal (eg, Jibriil Abokar). These people live to the west and north-west of Hargaysa. The base for this dialect would be Boorame. Even we make fun of them lol. The intermediate waqooyi speakers would be the Ciidagale, western Habar Yoonis,western Habar Jeclo, Arab and parts of the Habar Awal (eg, Ciise Muuse). These people live to the south, east and northeast of Hargaysa. The base for this dialect would be Burco.

[Lancer]

I remember when the killing of that Italian woman happened in Borama around 2003.
I use to live near the hospital she opened and operated, it was a 5 minute walking distance from my house.
So this Jaamac Kuutiye guy was the one behind? Anyhow asking for a terrorist release means
these people are not serious about wanting peace.

[gegiroor]

by the way,for those who know the dholos abtiris...which sub is sanwayen from?...are they from naleye axmed?....my habarwadag is sanwayen, naleyeh ahmed.

I am Nalaye Ahmed (NA) and can tell you there is no subclan or jilib named sanwayen within NA. Ask them if they are Cali Naalaye, Jibriil Naalaye, Aadan Naalaye, Cabdalle Naalaye, Cilmi Naalaye, Sabood Naalaye, Faarax Naalaye, Axmed Naalaye, and Bihina Faarax (Yusuf Naalaye, Liban Naalaye, and Shirwac Naalaye).

Back to Solomodow kids;

Solomodow got owned by Geed-quwaax (Wacays Aden and Samakaab Axmed) and they are now calling all of Mohamed Obokor and Cimran to come to their aid They are also calling all of HJs They also want all SL militia to fight for them like the Kalshaale days

Anyhow, I hope it never comes to conflict and elders will resolve it. The blood of Muslims is something that we should never take lightly, and bakhda and goolaaftan that Xildiin and Yusuf are throwing here is all talk and no show. If they were men enough, they would not be calling for the death of others, especially a conflict they themselves will not fight. Hell, these are reer miyi skirmishes with no politics involved.

Another thing is, the blame against Ahmed Farah is all hogwash. Obokor Cabdulle and Hassan Abdulle are also not interested in this conflict with reer Buuhoodle. Even Reer Daahir is not interested in his conflict. These Barre Cabdulle kids here are calling for a conflict for which they will not fight. They want others to do the heavy lifting for them in a minor reer miyi skirmish. Insha'Allah, it will be resolved peacefully.

[original dervish]

These miscreant iidoor youths have only just become aquainted with their respective subclans.
Before they came on here bigging up their subclans.....they would big up Man U/Chelsea etc.

[wasabi]

These miscreant iidoor youths have only just become aquainted with their respective subclans.
Before they came on here bigging up their subclans.....they would big up Man U/Chelsea etc.

bit like you. you have adapted very well to your peoples victim mentality in a short period

[Xildiiid]

Gegiroor,

Cut the Jidbaale and Allkalshaalenews propaganda. The latest skirmishes and the ones before was between a sub clan of the reer Nabad of Barre Cabdille vs Wacays Aadan and Samakaab Axmed. It was not all of Barre Cabdille let alone Solomadow and who did you own? Attacking 3 teenage nomads with Kastuumo technicals is nothing to brag about or maybe it is for you after all "Dhulbahante inuu nabada kugu yeelo, colaad kuguma yeelo". It's only during these times when you call for talks under the false pretense of peace that you attack our nomads.

The support of Maxamed Abokor elders will send a clear message to old man Siilaanyo who's been busy protecting your people from HJ sub sub sub clans such as Solomadow. Siilanyo is nothing without HJ and the HJ elders have stated that they will support every decision Solomadow makes no matter what the government or Siilaanyo says.

You attacked the same SL army that was supposed to keep the peace in Kalshaale when we buried our wells after being compensated for it by the government. The SL army did not fight on our behalf. Even now it's through Solomadow the SL army got a military base in Kalshaale. When the disloyal Dhulbahante soldiers in SL army betrayed and snitched on the positions of their colleagues who were unaware of the surroundings and terrain we joined the war, even though one of the ridiculous conditions of your clan was that no Solomadow should be part of the peace keeping force, and we turned the tide within a day.

I was in Kalshaale for 2 weeks in 2013 with my camels. There was no clashes that year otherwise I would've murked a couple of Dhulbahante souls.

[original dervish]

You probably got beaten up by the butch girl in school.
The whiff of a pathetic sissy permeates your every post.

We couldn't give a flying f*@k about Solo-whatever idoor you hail from.
Just remember....the ground still aint firm on the graves of your fallen....and you'll be digging more.

[skywalker25]

You probably got beaten up by the butch girl in school.
The whiff of a pathetic sissy permeates your every post.

We couldn't give a flying f*@k about Solo-whatever idoor you hail from.
Just remember....the ground still aint firm on the graves of your fallen....and you'll be digging more.

OD you deserve your own comedy show. I can't take your nonsense serious man.

We will enter Buhoodle, AGAIN, burn the place down, AGAIN, piss on the Meles Zanawi shrine and go back to Burco. Like we always do.
The more serious question is; why do you guys do this to yourself every time?

I'm gonna expect another one of your clown jokes...