Brothers and sisters is SOMALINIMO still alive? VOTE

[Based]

So long as the somali people are depended on the qabiil system then somalinimo takes a back seat, the qabiil comes first regardless. What needs to die is the dependence on the qabiil system which is still at the forefront on how Somalis function day to day regardless of the environment. It doesn't matter how qabiilist an individual can be, qabyalaad is simply an expression of qabiil system that exists.

Qabiil doesn't die when people cease to engage in qabyaalad, no, it dies the day the dependence on qabiil dies. Today, if alshabab were to withdraw from the south and the the same for the government. Mogadishu would be partitioned, the major clans would go at it and so would the smaller ones. What keeps this from happening in some places such as the north is a system put in place whilst aggrandizing the role of the clan and it's figure heads though using this it's able to prevent conflict and conflict on a macro level - but it means the qabiil system hasn't died yet it just remains dormant but as important as ever. Somalia is simply a macro sized version of "Somalia" for the past 1000 years. Somaliland president is simply a simply a sultan and the guurti are the elders who maintain peace. And the people live no different to how they lived for the past 1000 years.

What Somalia needs is not some governmental or some enlightenment but a change in lifestyle - an urban/agriculture shift and moving away from the values/culture associated with the pastoral lifestyle ( stigmatizing clans and jobs, general malaise ). In my view anyone in the qurbaha that promotes the condition/lifestyle of somali commoner today is compliant with the shit that has happened in Somalia since the last century. 90% of the problems that exist in Somalia, the famine, refugee, partition, hate, absence of government, extreme poverty can all be put down to the qabiil system which is at it's root conflicting with the sedentary based modern forms of lifestyle/governance.

This X 100000

[Present]

I said it before and I'll say it again. Somalinimo is overrated

Adeero Bob Marley wax hakuu taro wakaase

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Somalinimo is still alive but it's on life support. It's usually the poor insignificant people who are the most decent and patriotic. My uncle and I were stuck in a dark neighbourhood of Hargeisa because our car ran out of petrol and some street kids offered to help. They took our cash and walked to the nearest gas station which was a couple of miles away and came back with the change and container full of petrol. It took me by surprise.

And then you have the opposite side of the spectrum where you will find xabashi and kenyan stooges working to score tribal points regardless of somalinimo or muslimnimo.

[Thuganomics]

I have more loyalty to the British State than to 'Somalinimo'. My closest enemy is a fellow 'Somali' Muslim so it is paradoxical to talk about Somalinimo or even Islamic Brotherhood when it is your own that pose a danger in the immediate short term.

That being said, first loyalty is to Tolka unless they are acting immorally.

Ohh shit how did I miss this isaaq explain to me why your people don't worship british whiteman when your brother clearly thinks otherwise

Get off our d1ck uskag yaho uskagu dhaley

[Skippa]

why?

Walaal, the way I see it, the definition of somalinimo isn't very clear. Is it an ethnicity? a language? Some would say that the barwanis or the bantus in the south aren’t really Somali while others would disagree. I just happen to believe that its importance as a whole is greatly exaggerated and on a personal level, it isn’t something that I think about a lot. It’s like a name, everyone has one.

Adeero Bob Marley wax hakuu taro wakaase

not relevant though, is it?

[YummyMummy]

why?

Walaal, the way I see it, the definition of somalinimo isn't very clear. Is it an ethnicity? a language? Some would say that the barwanis or the bantus in the south aren’t really Somali while others would disagree. I just happen to believe that its importance as a whole is greatly exaggerated and on a personal level, it isn’t something that I think about a lot. It’s like a name, everyone has one.

Gartay, but even as a name (a shared one, if you like), does it not command a degree of loyalty?

[Skippa]

Loyalty? Not particularly…maybe an affinity but nothing to make me partial or exclusionary… In any case walaal, I don’t mean to hijack the man’s thread by making it about me

[Present]

Adeero Bob Marley wax hakuu taro wakaase

not relevant though, is it?

It's a joke lol, you don't have to explain yourself-none of my beeswax.

[Skippa]

It's a joke lol, you don't have to explain yourself-none of my beeswax.

We're cool bro...don't doubt it

[Present]

It's a joke lol, you don't have to explain yourself-none of my beeswax.

We're cool bro...don't doubt it

Sis, sax

[Skippa]

Sorry

[YummyMummy]

Sorry

YES Skippa lab iyo dhidig kalama sooci karo

gotchu back!

[Skippa]

Touché

Waad xasuus fiicantahay walee...hadaad xifdiga quraanka isku daydo waad cabaysaa Ilaahay idankii (unless you're already there, in which case Ilaahay ha kuu barakeeyo)

[YummyMummy]

Touché

Waad xasuus fiicantahay walee...hadaad xifdiga quraanka isku daydo waad cabaysaa Ilaahay idankii (unless you're already there, in which case Ilaahay ha kuu barakeeyo)

Aamiin walaal, for all of us in shaa Allah

[Advo]

6 feet under.

We only like each other due to circumstance, abroad waan is jecelnahay but meel aan ku badanahay waan is necebnahay.