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Ancient Egyptians were not that radically different from Modern Egyptians. Modern Egyptians have acquired a small but noticeable ancestry from West Asia and West Africa in the more recent era.
ENF, short for Early Neolithic Farmers from the Middle East as well as Ancestral North East African are the two clusters that represents Afro-Asiatics at the base level. Both are found in all with the exception of Chadics and Assyrians who are in all likelihood Afroasiatic-ized West Africans and Pseudo Armenians respectfully. The Best representation of Neolithic Semitics tend to be Yemeni Jews. With North West Africans it is of course modern Berbers and with Cushitic speakers it is you guessed it Somalis.
Yemeni Jews tend to show up as 85% ENF and 15% ANEA
Somalis are 55% ANEA and 45% ENF
Berbers are ENF + WHG + ANEA + recent West African
Ancient Egyptians were likely something in Between Neolithic Semitics and Cushitics. Therefore I imagine Ancient Egyptians were something in the range of roughly 75% ENF + 25% ANEA IMHO.
For those confused about some of the listed terms like WHG it is short for West European Hunter-Gatherers who are the indigenous hunter Gatherers of Europe. They were numerous in Europe but the Neolithic changed all that.
What kind of nonsense are you spewing you didn't even post a source along with ur diluted bull!
Similarly, genetic evidence supports the old assumption and the new findings. A new investigation on Y chromosome markers shed more light on the prehistoric linkage between the two peoples. Genotyping markers on Y chromosome in the Somalis, scientists have recently found that a special type of gene marker, E3b1 cluster y, define the Somalis. Findings from other investigations on Y chromosome markers in diverse populations that are relevant for the Somali case were compared to the findings in 201 male Somalis.
The frequency of the genotype (E3b1) in the Somalis is 77.6% (96.8% of it cluster y). Its frequency in other populations is as follows: the Oromos in the neighborhood of the Somalis 35.9%, Amharas 22.9%, mixed Ethiopians 22.4%, Egyptians 20.0%, Sudanese 17.5%, Iraqis 6.3%, Northern Africans 6.1%, Omanis 1.7%, Southern Europeans 0.5% - 5.1%, Turks 1.7%, and various Sub-Saharan Africans 0.7% and lower.2
Thus, these populations share E3b1 with the Somalis in Y chromosome clusters mostly different from the Somali one (cluster y). After the Somalis, the highest frequency in cluster y is found in the Oromos, particularly those geographically related to the Somalis. In addition to the fact that the Oromos are generally the closest affinities of the Somalis, those in question have assimilated a large Somali population during the last four centuries.3
On the bases of the available information, Somalia is the primary home of the E3b1, Ethiopia is the second, Egypt is the third while Sudan is the fourth. This means that outside the Afro-Asiatic populations in the Horn of Africa, the highest frequency of E3b1 is found in the living Egyptians which make them the closest group to the Somalis in this respect.
In general, before the study on the Somalis in 2004, it has been known that the modern Egyptians closely related to the populations in the Middle East, Horn of Africa, North Africa, with presence of South European and Nilo-Saharan genetic elements.
The E3b1 is the predominant gene marker in the Somali population but there are other types of gene determinants that contribute to the characterization of the Somali racial affiliation and go along with the direction of the predominant marker.
Although more work on E3b1 lineages in the Horn of Africa was in progress at the time of publishing the data we use here, the y chromosomes so far observed in the Somali population consist of E3b1 77.6%, sharing it with other Afro-Asiatics in lower frequency; 15% of K2, J and M17 which is characteristic in Eurasia; and less than 5% of A3, B, E3a, and E3b2 in the sub-Saharan (non-Afro-Asiatic) Africans.4
The predominant gene component was introduced into the Somali population 5000-4000 years ago. The researchers base this date on estimation of the ‘Time back to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA)’ assuming a generation time of 25 years. It is also estimated that the cluster began to expand sizably in the Somali population 1200 years ago.5 This is understandable because over 80% of the living Somalis claim that they are descendants of biologically-related (patriarchal or matriarchal) families that lived around that time.
It appears that, like anthropologists on the Somali studies assume a generation time of 25 years for the ancestral lineages, the genotype scientists here also accept that number of years for the Y chromosome lineages. This is generally an acceptable standard.
But, most of the traditional ancestral lineages in Somalia show a generation time of 30 years or more. The difference between the traditional ancestral lineages and the standard one warrants a further investigation. If the generation time would be based on the later number, the TMRCA approximation would be 5000-6000 years for E3b1 cluster y. And even according to other estimation, cluster y originated in the Horn of Africa approximately 9600 years ago.6
Another temporary problem is that, our information here does not include age estimates of E3b1 in the Egyptian population. However the position of Egypt in E3b1 geographic distribution and its frequency in the populations indicates that there were pre-historic Somalo-Egyptian connections.
Moreover, the Puntite factor was introduced into Egypt in the same general era that the Somali nationhood was evolved. Accordingly, the data suggest that a gene flow took place between the two people which survives in the ethnically-dynamic population of present-day Egypt. The data also suggest that, if the ancient Egyptians were about to share the E3b1 with a group or to receive it from them that are essentially the Somali since the marker is characteristic in the Somali and it is suggested that cluster y, at least, originated in the Horn.7
The y-DNA Eb3 marker clearly shows migration from punt to Egypt!
The source for this
http://cdn.wardheernews.com/wp-content/ ... y-Said.pdf
But also the y-DNA V32 which shows back migration from Egypt to somalia
E1b1b1a1b. V32
The E1b1b1a1b (V32) subclade is a descendant of E1b1b1a1 (V12). E1b1b1a1b/V32 is highest in Somalia (47-75%), Sudan (52%) and Ethiopia (40%). All these chromosomes detected to date fall into the East African M78 g microsatellite cluster, which is associated with Cushitic (Afro-Asiatic) language groups in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya. There is some notion that the Great Rift Valley acted as a barrier to isolate language and genetic groups in this region. This subclade is abundant in Somalia, although the STR diversity is rather low. This data would suggest that the E1b1b1a1b/V32 Somali population was shaped by a founder effect, somewhat recently. ............. The estimates for the TMRCA of this subclade are approximately 4-8kya.
The haplogroup K2 was found in 10.4% of Somali males. Haplogroup K2 was suggested to have arisen in Eurasia.4, 9 K2 has a patchy distribution in Cameroon (18.0%), Egypt (8.2%), Ethiopia (4.8%), Tanzania (3.8%) and Morocco (3.6%), probably due to back migration.3, 7, 8, 9 Luis et al9 estimated an expansion time of 13.7–17.5 ky for the K2 lineages in Egypt. The BATWING expansion time estimated for K2 in our Somali population (3.3 ky) is consistent with an African southward dissemination of the K2 haplogroup.
Source
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/ ... 1390a.html
These events are somewhat recent and indicate the back-migration of Cushitic, or proto Cushitic people from Egypt, IMO the red Sea Coast. This is some what recent in Genetic evolutionary history........THAT SAID, support specific linguistic, cultural, or historical connections between Somalia and Egypt. The bi-directional genetic link is quite clear though.
Not only are these supported by Ancient Greek but also ancient Egyptians.
The migration from punt to Egypt is even spoke about by the ancients Egyptians considering how often the ancient Egyptians spoke of punt being their ancestral homeland and the land of their origins. That's why puntites were the only once depicted the same as the ancient Egyptians culturally, politically and racial on ancient egyptian art.
And these genetic back migration is also supported by Ancient Greek writers as diodurus of Sicily wrote that the Egyptians fled south in the direction of somalia after the euro asiatic invasion
There is no pseudo anything! Everything I out out is factual accept for urs
These are legit DNA evidence!
You know what il move on the skull and craniotomy feautures of the mummies and who they cluster the most with
educate yourself. land of punt was somalia/ethiopia and thats the only connction. egypt was always multi ethnic and racial.
what about what I said make you question my bloodlines?