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Murax wrote:Sahal80,

Zandani Was Ikhwani not Salafi, and Iman University is not 'Wahabbi' but is despised by Saudi as Ikhwaan. Thats like saying Saudi loves Azhar (Or what Azhar used to be). As Jaidi said, Ali Abdalla Saleh was supporting the Salafis agaisnt the Houthis as the Salafis used to call people to not revolt against Him, and its also why he distanced the Ikhwanis who wanted some of His powers. This is why When the Houthis bured the Salafi institution Dammaj to the ground the supporters of Zandani, AQAP and others just sat back, laughed ,Had some popcorn and watched lol
I was just reading about this, I had no idea Dammaj had been destroyed by the Xuuthis.
Things are changing and moving fast .....

Yea, completely destroyed, the ones running it all in exile. They supported Ali Abdalla Saleh, and now Ali Abdalla Saleh used them and is now with the Houthis, so they had zero friends.
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Murax wrote:Jaidi,

The Salafis I was talking about wasn't the politically motivated ones, but the ones who basically called for complete hands off poiltics, obeying the ruler Ali Abdalla Saleh. Inparticular the institute in Dammaj, Ma'bar, and the Guys like Sh Muqbil RH, Sh Yahya Hajoori,. Yahya Hajoori who was running Dammaj is now in Saudi.
Yes you're right no one cared for them.

The war is killing most religious institutes that attracted foreigners to country. Tons of foreign students have been fleeing Tarim in Hadhramout to catch the evacuations out of the countrry.
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Jaidi wrote:
Murax wrote:Jaidi,

The Salafis I was talking about wasn't the politically motivated ones, but the ones who basically called for complete hands off poiltics, obeying the ruler Ali Abdalla Saleh. Inparticular the institute in Dammaj, Ma'bar, and the Guys like Sh Muqbil RH, Sh Yahya Hajoori,. Yahya Hajoori who was running Dammaj is now in Saudi.
Yes you're right no one cared for them.

The war is killing most religious institutes that attracted foreigners to country. Tons of foreign students have been fleeing Tarim in Hadhramout to catch the evacuations out of the countrry.

Yea its absolutely insane. So many Westerner kids were there especially somalis.
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Another meaningless thread.
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Jaidi,

These Guys are officially the new Somalia. Just like Somalia too they do not have enough recourses, money for people to truly care about them.
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Murax wrote:Jaidi,

These Guys are officially the new Somalia. Just like Somalia too they do not have enough recourses, money for people to truly care about them.
As a guy from Adeni family I can say Im now a dual citizen of two failed states :snoop:

The extent of caring about Yemen, like Somalia is about keeping its problems contained. As long as AQAP cant threaten West and Houthis cant threaten Saudi no one will care.
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Jaidi wrote:
sahal80 wrote:yemen was ruled by three man who belong to the same clan but each of them was representing certain interests

salih the president whos zaydi

muhsin al ahmar was controlling the army hes zaydi too

the late abdallah al ahmer chief of the clan and the parliament hes a sunni and was leading the al islax party which is more a tribal alliance than islamist party also has some salafi elements like zandani and his wahabi schools such as iman university

abdallah al ahmer was a sacudi card

since salih was removed the country was run by his southren deputy

he clashed with the strong man of the army and dissolved his own militia

this man has let the houths control the capital

since then its shia vs sunni

salih was back to yemen and his group were trying to sell themselves to the people and the world againist but as the houths found out his secret plans they want to kill him now and he contacted with djibouti to send him a plane but his request was rejected

majority of the north r shia
If theres anything every faction agreed on at one point its the fact they dislike Islah. Saleh hated them because Ali Muhsin switched sides on him. Hadi wanted to get rid of him because he saw them as threat to power. Southerners hate Islah because of 1994 Civil War which had land grabs from Islahis and a fatwa from Zindani calling Southerners Marxist apostates who jihad was permissible against. :lol: The Houthis hated Islah because Ali Muhsin led the war against them. This all combined to help Houthis come in with opposition only from tribal militias allied to Ahmars and Ali Muhsins troops. Hadi thought he could get a handle on the situation after Muhsin and Islah were margnalized but he got outflanked and outsmarted by Houthi and Saleh cooperation.
Correction: I meant to say muhsin is sunni
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mohsen_al-Ahmar

Yeah I know but salah was forced to deal with them so he can reconcile with the gulf countries after his support for the iraq invasion of kuwait also the southren communist rebellion but let us not forget that they all hail from the same clan and the clan identity is stronger than the religious identity in yemen

Why muhsin didn't support the current sunni president? Obviously for tribal reasons.

He cooperated with the houths and he's behind the fall of sanaa


Murax

Yaa akhi I know sh zindani since I was 12 years old!

Al islah as party is muslim brotherhood but its also a tribal and sunni alliance including the salafis

Islah tribal bases eat khat while their salafis don't!

What ikhwan?


Zindani is a salafi, and the wahabi behind the spread of salafiya in yemen on the costs of the peaceful shafi mad-hab who existed peacefully along side with zaidia in yemen

Yemen is a victim of iran and saudi arabia schools

http://www.islamopediaonline.org/profil ... al-zindani
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Jaidi wrote:
Murax wrote:Jaidi,

These Guys are officially the new Somalia. Just like Somalia too they do not have enough recourses, money for people to truly care about them.
As a guy from Adeni family I can say Im now a dual citizen of two failed states :snoop:

The extent of caring about Yemen, like Somalia is about keeping its problems contained. As long as AQAP cant threaten West and Houthis cant threaten Saudi no one will care.


Woow...sad indeed. Your houses in Aden are they still standing?
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Sahal, Ali Muhsins troops and allied militias were the only ones who fought Houthis on their way to Sana'a. Trust me fall of Sana'a was about Saleh and Hadi to an extent. The first thing Houthis did when they made it to the capital was blow up Muhsin's home. He's in Jeddah now and is advisor to the Saudis on their intervention. Note how Islah officially supports the mission.
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Murax wrote:
Jaidi wrote:
Murax wrote:Jaidi,

These Guys are officially the new Somalia. Just like Somalia too they do not have enough recourses, money for people to truly care about them.
As a guy from Adeni family I can say Im now a dual citizen of two failed states :snoop:

The extent of caring about Yemen, like Somalia is about keeping its problems contained. As long as AQAP cant threaten West and Houthis cant threaten Saudi no one will care.


Woow...sad indeed. Your houses in Aden are they still standing?
Cousins told me one of the homes was partially damaged the other day but rest have been OK so far. Seeing where its headed no guarantee that will last.
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FAH1223 wrote:
Why are you posting this on a "somali net" forum?
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axmed89 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Why are you posting this on a "somali net" forum?
This is general discussions.

Somali politics has its own sub forum

This forum is for GENERAL DISCUSSION.

Please learn the site.

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FAH1223 wrote:
axmed89 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Why are you posting this on a "somali net" forum?
This is general discussions.

Somali politics has its own sub forum

This forum is for GENERAL DISCUSSION.

Please learn the site.

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Stop posting meaningless thread's. Which have got fuck all, to do with somalian's :up:
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These links r for murax

Islamists in yemen have started as one group just like the somali islamists

In yemen there r now three schools

The islah who still work as one group and it includes the tribal chiefs and the salafi jihadists like zindani

There's al salafiya al jadida wich was founded in yemen by this man


He is againist the jihad, bin la$in, sayid qutb and calls to obey the "muslim leaders"

R affiliated with al ictisam in somalia and the sheekh who was killed in PL by al shabab

Here he gives his fatwa regarding zindani and he says though he's a salafi he has to read the ikhwan books and see their unsalafi faith!
http://olamayemen.com/Dars-8377
http://www.alquds.com/news/article/view/id/147376
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axmed89 wrote:
Stop posting meaningless thread's. Which have got fuck all, to do with somalian's :up:
Don't read or post on the topic. Simple.
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