difference between sunni and sufi?

[SultanOrder]

Yes they did because sufism was understood differently than today, the appropriate word would be zaahid or zuhdism. i am too the biggest sufi now then

I'll tell you what tho, they would never claim to be salafis that's for sure. For god's sake, Mecca was sacked by Salafi's, have you guys no shame?

[Buraanbur]

PO I'm not a Salafi, I'm a Muslim.

You have the same views as the Salafis, how can you not be a salafi? You just said don't follow a madhab, follow the strongest opinion but we are told not to pick and choose from madhabs. It's only Salafis that treat the religion like a cafeteria. Also, what is "strongest"? You didn't say the most agreed upon opinion, you used a subjective word meaning the soundness or strength is up to the interpretation of the individual. Before the proliferation of Salafi Islam, the Muslim community did not have as many Takfiris, suicide bombers and blood-lusting lunatics burning bodies. It is because of this " I am my own Imam" mentality that these fringe elements have come to the forefront and been legitimized.

How can I be my own imam when there are so many imams and scholars? Since when do I posses the knowledge to be my own imam?

We are not restricted to following a specific madhab and no one should ever be. Islam is about Qur'an and Sunnah not scholars. Scholars just make it easy for us to follow Islam by breaking things down for us and sharing their knowledge. The strongest opinion = the most agreed upon I would have thought that would've been clear.

If I was to follow strictly follow a specific madhab it would be the hanafi madhab.

Exactly, you do not possess the knowledge to question Imam Malik, Imam Hanafi, Imam Shafici, or Imam Hanbali. These are people who spent their entire lives studying Islamic jurisprudence and we are supposed to discard all of that because one or two things are not "sound" in your opinion?

Secondly, in Salafi speak the "strongest" opinion isn't the most agreed upon. If that were there case, you would know that the consensus among Ahlu Sunnah is to follow one madhab, picking and choosing is frowned upon. To Salafis the strongest opinion is the soundest opinion, totally up to the interpretation of the individual or Salafi sheikh. They've gone so far as to reinterpreting hadith's, classifying them as weak. I don't see how they're any different from Quran-only Muslims or progressive Muslims.

[AbdiJohnson]

The Sunni (Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jamaa'ah) and the Sufi (Ahlu Bid'ah Wal Haawa) are one of two sects in Islam. Sufis fall under Sunnism but many Sunnis disagree. Sufis existed before Islam but are credited with spreading Islam around the world, including to Somalis. The Sufis are like African American Christians; they sing and break dance in mosques and have lots of kids with many women (divorce and remarry, repeat) that they end up forgetting about. They make up for their liberal ways by being deeply spiritual, thinking God is always around them and meditating and having birthdays for the prophet. They are also very heavy in the exorcism business from your body. Strange people but very peaceful.

The Sunnis are... I am sure you don't need a Sunni description. You grew up Sunni. Islamic State, Al Shabab, Al-Qaeda, Kosovo, Turkey, Indonesia.... they vary and differ in interpretation but are united in their hypocrisy and in weakness and in being humilated

I am,

Abdi "The Shia are better people" Johnson

[mclovin]

Shiites believe that Muhammad and members of his immediate family(Ali, Hassan, Hussein,etc) were all divinely inspired.

Sunnis believe that only Muhammad was divinely inspired.

Sufis believe in a sort of pseudo-pantheism where god's essence can be found anywhere in the universe, and that anyone can be divinely inspired with the proper training.

[grandpakhalif]

Gaalo teaching us Islamic history dadkan wa imtixaan

[gegiroor]

Sufi are basically mystics who believe in a false interpretation of Sunni, they practice grave worshipping, consecrating the dead and Mawliid, a practice unheard of until 180 years after the Prophet SAWS death

The sunni shia split happened after the prophets death and salafism was unheard of until recently, so what's your point?

Painting all sufis with your extremist brush is akin to me saying all Salafis are jihadi sociopaths. Stop it.

True statement!

[gegiroor]

Gaalo teaching us Islamic history dadkan wa imtixaan

It is really strange two gaals - AbdiJohnsin and Mclovin - teaching us Islam

[mclovin]

Gaalo teaching us Islamic history dadkan wa imtixaan

It is really strange two gaals - AbdiJohnsin and Mclovin - teaching us Islam

yea ,and it seems that i know more about islamic history than most muslims i come across.

[AbdiJohnson]

I am a hafiz and an Islamic scholar due to unfortunate circumstances that occurred in my younger years. I have profound knowledge of your religion. I know the Sahih inside and out. I can beat you in your own game. I know more about the God that you love more than the mother that carried you for 9 months while I think very little of him.... I reject him but he has sent an army of his followers to remind me that I will burn.... and I will continue to remind him of my rejection...

I am,

Abdi "I am the greatest" Johnson

[grandpakhalif]

I am a hafiz and an Islamic scholar due to unfortunate circumstances that occurred in my younger years. I have profound knowledge of your religion. I know the Sahih inside and out. I can beat you in your own game. I know more about the God that you love more than the mother that carried you for 9 months while I think very little of him.... I reject him but he has sent an army of his followers to remind me that I will burn.... and I will continue to remind him of my rejection...

I am,

Abdi "I am the greatest" Johnson

Your knowledge of Quran will testify against you, it will say he memorized me but did not believe, his intention was to please hooyo not you Allah if only you repented eternal hellfire aint no joke

[gegiroor]

You don't know any thing about Islam, you two kuffars. The only thing that you know is the garbage and lies that you read in Robert Spencer's and Daniel Pipes' hateful sites, and other Islamophobes like you. Islam is growing in the world today, and it is the fastest growing religion in North America. It has been promised to us that Islam will reach every household on this world, Khilafa will be restored, its last seat will be in Jerusalem, and the Son of Mary (peace be upon him) will be leading it. We (Muslims) will definitely have the last laugh. Go and burn in hell, you two a(ss)holes!

[Kaafiye]

It's funny how these two kafirs, Abdi Johnson and Mclovin, claim to have knowledge on Islamic history when in fact they have very little knowledge as evidenced in their posts.

Take a seat amateurs. You know nothing about our beautiful Deen.

[mclovin]

Your knowledge of Quran will testify against you, it will say he memorized me but did not believe, his intention was to please hooyo not you Allah if only you repented eternal hellfire aint no joke

You actually believe inanimate objects are conscious, and self aware enough to the point that it can testify against someone?

Where exactly did you quote that from?

[mclovin]

It's funny how these two falls, Abdi Johnson and Mclovin, claim to have knowledge on Islamic history when in fact they have very little knowledge as evidenced in their posts.

Take a seat amateurs. You know nothing about our beautiful Deen.

and thats exactly why you run away from arguments and use weak sources and logical fallacies to prove your claims.

I'm still waiting for those documents dated to the rashidun caliphate.

[jalaaludin5]

Adeer Tom's attention whoring is bubbling with enthusiasm.