JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Daily chitchat on Somali politics.

Moderator: Moderators

Otherbrother
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 968
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:36 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Otherbrother »

Kismayo has slightly larger population than Jamame.

Much more than Afmadow and other places in lower Jubba. Its not that populated. But them two cities have the largest in the gobol. Both cities have similar populations give or take as Gaalkacyo and Bosaso.


Somali cities are not that populated.
User avatar
Methylamine
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 6362
Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:22 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Methylamine »

Buraanbur wrote:
TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote::wtf: That report is absolute nonsense.
I had a preview of the report before it was released. It is 100% the same as one version of a UNFPA report from 2014 that was rejected by the Puntland government and so it was never officially released. There was another version before that that was rejected by the SL government because they felt their numbers were inaccurate. The current version was accepted by Somaliland.
I doubt he actually went through Somaliland to get the number as no one there would agree to be in a census of Somalia. His 3.5mil figure adds up, but the gobols are way off. Awdal's rural and nomadic pop is extremely exaggerated, while Waqooyi Galbeed's urban pop is much lower than what it actually is. Hargeisa + Berbera + Gabiley = 800k? :childplease:
User avatar
thegoodshepherd
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3571
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:59 am
Location: Somalinet boycott by Puntites in effect 24/12/14

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by thegoodshepherd »

Otherbrother wrote:Kismayo has slightly larger population than Jamame.

Much more than Afmadow and other places in lower Jubba. Its not that populated. But them two cities have the largest in the gobol. Both cities have similar populations give or take as Gaalkacyo and Bosaso.
Somali cities are not that populated.
You obviously don't know much about Koonfur. Comparing Jamame and Kismayo :)
User avatar
Buraanbur
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1067
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Buraanbur »

Methylamine wrote:
Buraanbur wrote:
TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote::wtf: That report is absolute nonsense.
I had a preview of the report before it was released. It is 100% the same as one version of a UNFPA report from 2014 that was rejected by the Puntland government and so it was never officially released. There was another version before that that was rejected by the SL government because they felt their numbers were inaccurate. The current version was accepted by Somaliland.
I doubt he actually went through Somaliland to get the number as no one there would agree to be in a census of Somalia. His 3.5mil figure adds up, but the gobols are way off. Awdal's rural and nomadic pop is extremely exaggerated, while Waqooyi Galbeed's urban pop is much lower than what it actually is. Hargeisa + Berbera + Gabiley = 800k? :childplease:
Somaliland accepted the numbers but they were promised that it would be divided as Somalia and Somaliland, not broken down by the pre-civil war provinces. Somaliland will now oppose the report on these grounds.
Otherbrother
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 968
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:36 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Otherbrother »

thegoodshepherd wrote:
Otherbrother wrote:Kismayo has slightly larger population than Jamame.

Much more than Afmadow and other places in lower Jubba. Its not that populated. But them two cities have the largest in the gobol. Both cities have similar populations give or take as Gaalkacyo and Bosaso.
Somali cities are not that populated.
You obviously don't know much about Koonfur. Comparing Jamame and Kismayo :)

I'm going by UN numbers :D Although Kismayo was lik 80% urban 20 rural. And jamame was like 30% urban and 70% rural. :lol:
User avatar
FieldMarshalMenace
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5301
Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:10 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by FieldMarshalMenace »

A message from my my illegitimate son Abdijohn

Aid hunting season has come early for the shameless, corrupt and incompetent UN and the backward Africans. Am I supposed to believe a Somali who wants to make his clan landheere and an organization that sells food aid in black markets? The Somalia population, including Somaliland is 5-8 million. I've been to two provinces and their population is overstated by more than 50%.
User avatar
Buraanbur
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1067
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Buraanbur »

I thought Abdijohnson died? I convinced myself that he took the Shahada right before he chocked to death on his chicken wing and made dua for him just in case he died a Muslim but I guess the devil is still among us.
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by original dervish »

Why are folks getting excited......its only an estimate. :snoop:
User avatar
Buraanbur
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1067
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Buraanbur »

original dervish wrote:Why are folks getting excited......its only an estimate. :snoop:
This estimate was going to be passed off as the most accurate population estimate in Somalia since the last census. It would be used to divide resources and, in the future, power/political positions.
User avatar
zidane88
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3986
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:57 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by zidane88 »

Just my grandfather's descendants are almost 500 people of whom mostly I don't know them. Have they counted all those I know? No.
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by original dervish »

Listen...we can't just reject everything out of hand if it isn't written by a cousin.
This is an estimate based on the last census taken in the 1980s.
We must have a starting point.....and the last census is the logical starting point. :wtf:
User avatar
SahanGalbeed
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 19032
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:48 pm
Location: Arabsiyo ,Somaliland

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by SahanGalbeed »

JL, PL...PL, JL .. :lol:
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by original dervish »

^^Are you on the sauce? :?
User avatar
Grant
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5845
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:43 pm
Location: Wherever you go, there you are.

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by Grant »

Did anybody bother to read the methodology? The report was produced by "international partners" and only issued by the Ministry of Planning and International Cooperation. The published statement on the report was written by Philippe Lazzarini, the United Nations Resident Coordinator for Somalia.
http://www.duhur.com/the-federal-republ ... ince-1975/

The estimate is in support of the Somali Compact http://www.pbsbdialogue.org/The%20Somali%20Compact.pdf and the Stability Fund http://www.stabilityfund.so/, which has already had some significant successes: http://stabilityfund.blogspot.com/, and was soliciting applications for projects in the Juba Valley earlier this year. According to a headline on the Snet Front Page the EU just added 6 million Euros to the fund.

I have my doubts that anybody is going to get to reject the report in any practical sense.
User avatar
SahanGalbeed
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 19032
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:48 pm
Location: Arabsiyo ,Somaliland

Re: JL & PL to reject HIPS report on population

Post by SahanGalbeed »

original dervish wrote:^^Are you on the sauce? :?
It is geographically not COHESIVE , I wonder what you're on ?

Let me tell you what's gonna happen daarood . A foreigner , in your OWN country will tell you to sober up . That's where you've put yourself
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Politics - General Discussions”