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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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What is love going to do for you when you're starving? Nada!

Ladies you can fall in love later on. Waa iga dardaraan. Somali waxey dhahda bakelee intu buulkisa kujiiro ayu miid kale radsada. :blessed:
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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BlackVelvet wrote:Yes I meant you in the general sense of people who talk like this


But making it personal, I know a lot of women who supported their husbands, women who invested in their men's businesses, women who bought houses and put the husband's name on the deed....in some of these cases the man used the woman's own money to buy another woman a house


Since data is not readily available. You have to admit, we take what we see around us and our own biases, formulate our views and extrapolate to the population
Those women you know are doing that because they're investing in their husbands potential. A woman will support you so you can fully actualize your earning and power potential, I wasn't denying that. But ultimately it's an investment on her part and will benefit her in the end, or at least they think it will.

What do you mean data isn't available. I gave you data on on cheating, divorce and cuckold rates in one of my posts above. And no, I haven't been made cynical by my surroundings...these views I hold are things I've read and they made sense to me. But one thing I know by experience is that women gravitate towards men who have a combination of good looks and confidence/dominant personality. That's why everyone talks about nice guys finishing last and badboys getting all the girls. It's just reality.
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For me respect is more important than love. I need to be able to respect him. Love comes second.
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Firefly wrote:For me respect is more important than love. I need to be able to respect him. Love comes second.
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Great minds think alike. If I don't respect then there's no future for us.
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Idman702 wrote:
Firefly wrote:For me respect is more important than love. I need to be able to respect him. Love comes second.
:up:

Great minds think alike. If I don't respect then there's no future for us.
Exactly. But people forget men and women are programmed differently and that's where the problem stems from. When men receive respect they will respond with love and love is what women desire.
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Firefly wrote:
Exactly. But people forget men and women are programmed differently and that's where the problem stems from. When men receive respect they will respond with love and love is what women desire.
Absolutely. Firefly are you a female or a guy?
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Lol female walaal..
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Firefly wrote:Lol female walaal..
You know what men want most, so you're ahead of the game. Good for you.
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Jugjugwacwac wrote:
Firefly wrote:Lol female walaal..
You know what men want most, so you're ahead of the game. Good for you.
Thanks. I got my faarax so I'm good.
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Congratulations firefly.

Respect the man and he will shower you with gifts I mean love. Noted.

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Thank you Idman (lovely name btw) Mabrook on your future hubby.. :rose:
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People are different and have different views on what's most important in a marriage.
I for example believe love is more important as it strengthens the relationship and really implements the "through thick and thin" but not everyone is made to believe that.

My best friend is happily married with a man who is doing well financially and looking after the family well.

I chose love
she chose financial stability.

We are both happily married. You just have to figure out what's more important for you
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Jugjugwacwac wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:Yes I meant you in the general sense of people who talk like this


But making it personal, I know a lot of women who supported their husbands, women who invested in their men's businesses, women who bought houses and put the husband's name on the deed....in some of these cases the man used the woman's own money to buy another woman a house


Since data is not readily available. You have to admit, we take what we see around us and our own biases, formulate our views and extrapolate to the population
Those women you know are doing that because they're investing in their husbands potential. A woman will support you so you can fully actualize your earning and power potential, I wasn't denying that. But ultimately it's an investment on her part and will benefit her in the end, or at least they think it will.

What do you mean data isn't available. I gave you data on on cheating, divorce and cuckold rates in one of my posts above. And no, I haven't been made cynical by my surroundings...these views I hold are things I've read and they made sense to me. But one thing I know by experience is that women gravitate towards men who have a combination of good looks and confidence/dominant personality. That's why everyone talks about nice guys finishing last and badboys getting all the girls. It's just reality.

The stats you provided don't explain why, all the conclusion and inferences are your own


Assuming they do, why is it a bad thing for women to gravitate towards men who have a combination of good looks and confidence/dominant personality? How is that more opportunistic than the men who gravitate towards women with small waists, big behinds and who cook?


Ultimately human beings are selfish, people don't get married as a show of selflessness. Everyone wants something out of it, some of those things are viewed positively by society's standards while others are frowned upon. The issue I take with your line of thinking is that you seem to paint women as users and men as saints, about loving sacrificially. Farax please :roll:
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Re: What's love got to do with it?

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BlackVelvet wrote:

The stats you provided don't explain why, all the conclusion and inferences are your own


Assuming they do, why is it a bad thing for women to gravitate towards men who have a combination of good looks and confidence/dominant personality? How is that more opportunistic than the men who gravitate towards women with small waists, big behinds and who cook?


Ultimately human beings are selfish, people don't get married as a show of selflessness. Everyone wants something out of it, some of those things are viewed positively by society's standards while others are frowned upon. The issue I take with your line of thinking is that you seem to paint women as users and men as saints, about loving sacrificially. Farax please :roll:

Yes, you're right that the stats on their own don't explain why, but how do you know the conclusions and inferences are my own and not based on an educated opinion backed up by extensive reasearch on my part?

Also, where did I say that the nature of womens motivations and behavours in relationships and marriages was a bad thing? Women are this way because that's how Allah created them, how can i fault them for it.

Lastly, I agree that humans are selfish and both men and women wanna gain from their marriages, no doubt. But my point was, when circumstances change for a man the woman is less forgiving of his unfortunate situation and more likely to question the relationship itself when compared to the other way around. This doesn't mean men are saints and that women are evil, because both genders have their fair share of both.
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