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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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Rambie:

Even somalias former fm said that the people of somaliland doesn't endorse secessionist agenda but the government force them to rally behind it!
Former Somalia Foreign Minister Ismael Hurre Buba said that the people of Somaliland did not want to break from Somalia as advocated by the administration.

There are too many people who want unity with the rest of Somalia, but the administration is pressurizing the public to rally behind the Secessionist agenda” said Buba who is an advocate of Somali unity.

He called upon Somaliland leaders to reconsider their push for a breakaway state.
Infact did you forget that somalias foreign minister himself is from awdal!

Called abdisalam omer

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Omer's family hails from the northwestern Awdal region of Somalia.[2] He belongs to the Gadabuursi subclan of the Dir.[1]
Heck here is convo on twitter with a Isaaq pro somaliland dude! I'll show it to symbolize that you guys do know that awdal & SSC are against Secessionist somaliland!
To which he responded Most he met don't aknowledge SL and the elders in awdal want avoid bloodshed

I showed you this to symbolize that is a common knowledge among you land rovers!

Yet you want to push propaganda and act like it doesn't exists with ur shitty windows paint texts!

I exposed you with ur lame attempt!
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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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@warrior bro Mohaka is a troll and he is trying to push this fiction story he found from a blog about a American historian from the 20th century owning a princess from 18th century a princess that never existed!

The story comes from a stupid eeydoor blog!
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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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What's your point there's loads of SLders who a for Somaliweyn,just as there are loads of people from Somalia who are all for SL going it alone
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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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Thuganomics wrote:What's your point there's loads of SLders who a for Somaliweyn,just as there are loads of people from Somalia who are all for SL going it alone
i agree there is tons of SLders who go for somaliweyn which i higlighted above!

Show me one substantial examples of people from the south wanting or calling for SL secessionism! if you dont i will dismiss ur claim!

My point is to show how propaganda driven idiots some SL supporters are! To eradicate this illusion of one united SL!

The simple fact that you guys blindly deny any wrong doings and the lack critic of ur govt! Makes it seem you guys practice the same kind of blind patriotism that nazi germany did!

Pluss you guys have developed this complex victimhood mentality, that you guys still in 2015 wet the bed every night dreaming about the booggie man siad barre screaming & wheeping! *Faqash* *Faqash* !

While you oppress other clans screaming hypocrisy!

This hatred you guys have for other non-Isaaq somalis becuz of a stupid dead dictator is what baffles me! How can you call us zoomalis and play with the holy ethnic term that u guys even identify with?

You guys turn Somali into Zoomali! What Proud somali person does that?! You guys live in an endless paradox of irrationality ingrained hatred & propaganda spewing! A propaganda spewing worse than fox news!

im done with my rant! i hope you get my point Land Rover!
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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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SonofANomad wrote:
Thuganomics wrote:What's your point there's loads of SLders who a for Somaliweyn,just as there are loads of people from Somalia who are all for SL going it alone
i agree there is tons of SLders who go for somaliweyn which i higlighted above!

Show me one substantial examples of people from the south wanting or calling for SL secessionism! if you dont i will dismiss ur claim!

My point is to show how propaganda driven idiots some SL supporters are! To eradicate this illusion of one united SL!

The simple fact that you guys blindly deny any wrong doings and the lack critic of ur govt! Makes it seem you guys practice the same kind of blind patriotism that nazi germany did!

Pluss you guys have developed this complex victimhood mentality, that you guys still in 2015 wet the bed every night dreaming about the booggie man siad barre screaming & wheeping! *Faqash* *Faqash* !

While you oppress other clans screaming hypocrisy!

This hatred you guys have for other non-Isaaq somalis becuz of a stupid dead dictator is what baffles me! How can you call us zoomalis and play with the holy ethnic term that u guys even identify with?

You guys turn Somali into Zoomali! What Proud somali person does that?! You guys live in an endless paradox of irrationality ingrained hatred & propaganda spewing! A propaganda spewing worse than fox news!

im done with my rant! i hope you get my point Land Rover!
I think you should stick with all that E1b1b nonsense and evicting Somali-bantus.
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Oh my!!!!!
Where did you get this pic from rambo :lupe:
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SonofANomad or wasn't it P.geezer

The advocates of Unionism by nature would posses an unwavering compulsion of servitude to the cause. In actuality a unionist's general demeanor and emotional inclination towards the complete population desired for Union would garner cohesion. It would be the founding principle of a genuine unionist to champion the cause of equality and mutual respect for all those intended for the said union. A true Unionist would perceive the complete intended population as his/her own. Thus a unionist's words and deeds would always have to remain all inclusive and broadly representative without bias. Ultimate test of a genuine unionist is his/her opposition to an unfair union or an illegitimate union.

On the other hand Disintegration agents like yourself are divisive and biased, creating unnecessary wedge between people. Some clarification for you and those afflicted with your ailment.

Anti-Unionists --- Can contain outright fanatics that can't bare to even see the word union in a sentence.
Dissolutionists --- Pragmatists hoping for good relations post two state solution.
Disintegrationists --- Prey on unionist sentiment while harboring sinister intentions. Bulk of somali midnimo claimants

Unionists --- A Rare perhaps even extinct group, a true measure of genuine unionist is the believe in a Union for mutual benefit.


Stop eroding what is left.
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Now that's what real Somalinimo is about
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These dhulo trolls are clueless Tuur not only brought their elders including Ali Khalif in a leash to Burao but he destroyed them more than any other Isaac.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=dV ... j3w&edge=0

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By 1991 he was shelling Las Qoray. The SNM civil war was 1994 kids, long after he erased the relatives of his admirers here.
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Re: The first president of Somaliland was a anti secessionist unist

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War you little dumb kid, why do you keep quoting me?
Don't you get tired of getting karbashed?

Just a reminder of your history as a master of propaganda. viewtopic.php?f=250&t=364431&start=75#p4470235 and viewtopic.php?f=250&t=364431&start=120#p4470486

It is very clear to me and for the rest of the readers here that you either suffer a form
of mental dementia coupled with already short term memory (you have a memory capacity of a fish)
or naturally a typical glow sniffing Darood with an IQ that doesn't surpass the 70 bench mark.

I know you're so dumb you can't read between the lines to see his favorable and biased view towards SL in his article.
He didn't even point out the possibility of SL not getting recognition, full throttle down the street.
http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2013/apr/290 ... untry.aspx

As for the video you posted about demonstrations in Gabiely .........
:russ: :russ: :russ:

Gabiely is inhabitant by Jibril Abokor, a sub sub clan of the HA (Isaaq)
You see that's what I mean, you're full of shit. You have no
idea what so ever about Sool, Sanaag or Awdal. Most importantly, you're an MJ from
Puntland you see how far you are from Awdal? Why are you so desperate to associate yourself with Awdal?

You can post whatever you said to strangers online on twitter all day long,
I know it makes you comfortable and get you the boost the nerve to come here after getting the karbash of your life time. :lol:

Plus, what sources did you brought anyway? Your convos with unknown figures on twitter? or
Wikipedia, you secret weapon? If you brought the words of a Sameroon Foreign minster than I have
the words of the longest serving PRESIDENT of Somaliland. You see the different?

You're so mind fked you can't see that Isaaq in the Dir confederation make over
75% of it's numbers. If Isaaq leave Somalia and Awdal stays they will lose their leverage as
being a major clan in the 4.5 formula. The only reason that man you keep quoting even managed
to get that seat is because of Isaaq, so don't try and play this imaginary Sameroon vs Isaaq card Dabacyo kid.
It's the opposite really, Sameroon never had it that good before, they already won the presidency, the VP
is always from Awdal, who ever won Awdal in elections usually becomes the president.

What do you think they want from Somalia? They already see how you people treat them down there,
taking their lands and using state resources to attack civilians. I know you don't know that, why don't you Ask your Somali fellows Armaan or Zumaale about whats happening right now in lower Shabille and Hiraan you little bitch made Dabacyo crocodile teras faq.

I mean look at yourself, opening a thread trying to defame the last president of SNM and the first to Somalialnd.
You don't know that Tur belongs to the Habar Yoonis (lions of Isaaq), a sub clan of Habar Garxajis, they got the whole of SL on lock
from Ceerigaboo to Gabiely and eventually turned it into government hands after reaching a deal.

Just look at him when he declared SL independence in Burco.

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And here he is, 2 years later in Borama, you see how feared and respected he was?

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Don't dare to compare him to the many Darood Anti-Somali flip flopper cockroache scum you produced through the years.

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I'll say this for the last time you Dabacyo illiterate scum,

GET OFF OUR CEEB !
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Rambie wrote:War you little dumb kid, why do you keep quoting me?
Don't you get tired of getting karbashed?

Just a reminder of your history as a master of propaganda. viewtopic.php?f=250&t=364431&start=75#p4470235 and viewtopic.php?f=250&t=364431&start=120#p4470486
Ok seem like have to school this retarded land rover again! ur lame attempt earlier wasnt enough huh? some people never learn!
i smacked ur propagand spewing ass earlier! u will get another dharbax!

How is a thread post posted by TheMightyNomad me? i am SonOfANomad! Secondly how does him posting pictures relevant to it SSC and Awdal being propaganda or irrelevant?

What a dhoqon attempt!

It is very clear to me and for the rest of the readers here that you either suffer a form
of mental dementia coupled with already short term memory (you have a memory capacity of a fish)
or naturally a typical glow sniffing Darood with an IQ that doesn't surpass the 70 bench mark.

I know you're so dumb you can't read between the lines to see his favorable and biased view towards SL in his article.
He didn't even point out the possibility of SL not getting recognition, full throttle down the street.
http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2013/apr/290 ... untry.aspx
Warya xaarka iska dhaq! ur soo full of shit! you resort to insults when ur claims are not even suported by that article? reading between the lines?
wow ur one desperate lame ass!

desperate attempt to conjure up some proof to discredit my input! nothing in that article indicates him being pro Somaliland or anti somalia or in any biased! it is just a pure objective piece!

firstly listen to urself! Why would he point out the possibilities of SL not getting recognition? when this is a piece about how it is possible for SL to get recognition and the scenarios of that possibility!

You also forget he wrote that on a pro Somalia website! if he was SL biases or for SL he would write a non objective piece on a SL website!

You drunk land rover!!
As for the video you posted about demonstrations in Gabiely .........
:russ: :russ: :russ:
Gabiely is inhabitant by Jibril Abokor, a sub sub clan of the HA (Isaaq)
You see that's what I mean, you're full of shit. You have no
idea what so ever about Sool, Sanaag or Awdal. Most importantly, you're an MJ from
Puntland you see how far you are from Awdal? Why are you so desperate to associate yourself with Awdal?
Are you retarded? did you not watch a video of gadabursi yelling talking about the gadabursi people recieving injustice for that reason going on a protest?

the inhabitance of gabiley are partially gadabursi

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From the book: Shattering Tradition: Custom, Law and the Individual in the Muslim Mediterranean
Of Walter Dostal,Wolfgang Kraus

epic fail beyond belief! go back to land roving you uneducated twat!

You can post whatever you said to strangers online on twitter all day long,
I know it makes you comfortable and get you the boost the nerve to come here after getting the karbash of your life time. :lol:


Plus, what sources did you brought anyway? Your convos with unknown figures on twitter? or
Wikipedia, you secret weapon? If you brought the words of a Sameroon Foreign minster than I have
the words of the longest serving PRESIDENT of Somaliland. You see the different?
Strangers said to me online proves neither does anything more than symbolize that fact that land rovers like urself are aware that most awdal youth are against the idea of secessionism and the elders are in it to avoid bloodshed and conflict! not becuz of they're own free ocord!

What wikipedia page? for the first president of somaliland i provided a text and a link from Justice.govt .com pdf file!

For the argument about awdal i brought a source for instance from goobjoog news of former fm of somalia said that people of somaliland dont endorse secessionism http://goobjoog.com/english/?p=12344

bring the source of somaliland longest serving president! i have nothing against it, it is not like it proves anything!

i only showed that someone from the awdal region gadabursi is in the somali govt which says alot considering ur trying to push this propaganda of them all being for Secessionism! not all and if most had theyre own pick in free will they would choose somalia in a heart beat just fact even supported!


You're so mind fked you can't see that Isaaq in the Dir confederation make over
75% of it's numbers. If Isaaq leave Somalia and Awdal stays they will lose their leverage as
being a major clan in the 4.5 formula. The only reason that man you keep quoting even managed
to get that seat is because of Isaaq, so don't try and play this imaginary Sameroon vs Isaaq card Dabacyo kid.
It's the opposite really, Sameroon never had it that good before, they already won the presidency, the VP
is always from Awdal, who ever won Awdal in elections usually becomes the president.

What do you think they want from Somalia? They already see how you people treat them down there,
land taking their lands and using state resources to kill their civilians. I know you don't know that, why don't you Ask your Somali fellows Armaan or Zumaale about whats happening right now in lower Shabille and Hiraan you little bitch made Dabacyo crocodile teras faq.
ur a desperate lame as! ur bringing irrelevant info up! Do you think that if SSC & Awdal creates theyre own federal state under somalia that isaaq will be able to reclaim colonial borders and seceed? impossible!

They just want unity among somalis and as well get the stake in being a independent federal state free from isaaq domination! very simple actually!
no one said they were going to relocate south either! Keep getting butthurt cuz im exposing ur propaganda driven sorry ass!

I mean look at yourself, opening a thread trying to defame the last president of SNM and the first to Somalialnd.
You don't know that Tur belongs to the Habar Yoonis (lions of Isaaq), a sub clan of Habar Garxajis, they got the whole of SL on lock
from Ceerigaboo to Gabiely and eventually turned it into government hands after reaching a deal.

Just look at him when he declared SL independence in Burco.

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Wow the classic text book Rambie style windows paint text with a underlined red marker with out a source and a irrelevant info! Yeah its fine and all what you just said but to bad he became a anti secessionist who advocated for unity and reconciliation!

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And here he is 2 years later in Borama, you see how feared and respected he was?

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Again!! dont see the point ur trying to make with desperate pictures of the president before he said fuck Secessionism and seperatism!

the known fact that you guys are posting fake propaganda about him and fake pride! when you guys chased him and his crew out of Somaliland and to the UK

ill brief you on his anti Seperatist ways!

Vigorously opposed to secession by the north, the various Somali factions made statements at the conferences in Addis Ababa, Cairo and, most recently, Nairobi affirming the sanctity of Somali unity (Results n.d.; New African May 1994b, 8;The Christian Science Monitor 6 Jan. 1994). Political organizations such as the Somali Democratic Association (SDA) and the United Somali Party (USP), which represent the interests of the Gadabursi and the Darood (Warsengele and Dulbahante) respectively, are on record as being opposed to secession ( Leatherbee, Leah and Bricker Jan. 1994, 29). Further, in April 1994, the first head of state of the self-proclaimed republic, Abdirahman Ahmed Ali, currently president of the Somali National Movement, declared his opposition to secession during a press conference in the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa ( Reuters 30 Apr. 1994). He added that "the path followed by the Somali people in the north and south of the country to resolve the Somali crisis has not achieved the desired results" ( AP 29 Apr. 1994). The current president of Somaliland, described Ahmed Ali as a traitor ( AFP 29 Apr. 1994); he had said that the people of the north did not want to [translation] "put their fate in the hands of a central power in Mogadishu" (Marchés tropicaux 28 Jan. 1994, 163). According to Reuters, "The north-west is still threatened by clan war between ethnic militias who want to keep their independence and others which want to rejoin the rest of Somalia" ( Reuters 10 Feb. 1994).
Source:
http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... _north.pdf

The guy who you are trying to make into a passionate Seperatist Somalilander became in 1994 a anti secessionist pro somalia passionat maniac who couldnt stop babbling about somali unity to the point that you guys branded him a traitor.

in the same text states that tension between militia up north that want to keep theyre independence and others want to rejoin somalia!

Don't dare to compare him to the many Darood Anti-Somali flip flopper cockroache scum you produced through the years.
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daroods are noble people Puntland state is as peaceful and as developed as Somaliland! so i would say they suceeded and provided alot for their inhabitance!

anti-somali? listen we are not the ones trying to seperate ourselves from our somali brothers & sisters! we are not the ones calling other somalis Zoomalis or faqash! that is all on you isaaqs!

i bet you hate us daroods soo much! is it becuz we make u wet ur bed reminding you of siad barre! You guys say faqash so much make me wanna smacke you guys with a siad barre military boot!

They are not as pathetic as Somaliland President Silaanyoo gettin Arrested by the chinese for trying to use a non recognized SL passport loool back in 2011!

lool at that last pic tho of a madame tussauds statue of Sayyid in england! You guys licked british ass soo much yet you dont have them paying tribute to you guys giving you a madame tussauds statue for ur land roving heroes!
Look land rovers hustling!! Gotta work that deffective engine :lol:
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Rambie: STop embarrasing urself and embrace the faqash mah nigga embrace the faqash!
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rambie is dishing out the harshest karbash
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