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Hyperactive wrote:cherine, do not believe everything you read here. salaf is not an isult or bad thing. والله لسميت نفسى السلفى لولا علم ىانى لا اطول هذا الشرف لاتشبه بهم

Hyper if these Salafis knew about some of your beliefs your head would have been rolling on the floor long time ago

lol cherine come on, dont exagerate. i am with them all the time, grow up with them , studied with them, worked with them and consider them my brothers.

there is some issue i notices people dont differ. salafi as people who try and learn from salaf al sale7 who hand us our religion and some individuals or groups who take the name but not the "asal"

Lol ok i admit i was exaggerating about head rolling part, if you consider them your brothers haatha min tiibat qalbak and your exemplary upbringing.

oh chirene you are kind. for what was, our years of misunderstanding each other. lol

Allah blessed me with 3aqil as a father who exposed us early in life "conflicting opinion or point of view." i can take very liberal and very extreme and be friend of them while keeping what i believe and making them except my views cause i understand them and been opposite sides.

i just dont understand how western muslim who seen "tanaqodat" still be extremist/ ra'ay fardi? my experience people reject and hate what they dont understand.

once you understand, even if you reject it or disagree you dont have strong hate .

Waa runta, the beginning of that lesson in tolerance started way back when abouk tizawaj min el zaydiyeen. That cemented your fate as someone who is neither this or that but someone who is accepting of all kinds of Muslims from Salafi to Shia to people like Adnan Ibrahim! Lol

don't remind me about our past squabbles

lol

cherine, check د محمد هداية, lool kafaroh wa la3anook. he is logawi but will give your brain little teaser.

i listen to his program and interviews. worse than dr. adnaan.


just check him.

Adali wrote:Can you define ceeb culture ? Why are they always pointing out the negatives, magnifying the bad side, every culture has a bad and a good side, we should fight the bad side by promoting the good side. I want to see more young people promoting our culture, food, music, dhaqan etc focus on the positive instead of finding a tiny negative and magnifying it to feed an audience of haters.

There is a deep rooted problem in terms of gender inequality in our country, however, our country has far worse problems, imagine the UK being at war, do you think people will care about the level of gender inequality ? no. We are used to our fucked up predicament, so desensatized to the fact that university students are bombed killed in Mogadishu, entire tribes bombed and under siege by foreigners KDF and their stooges in Kismaayo for 3 days and 3 nights killing and devastating entire neighbourhoods, drones killing nomads in Gedo. Floods of people fleeing and dying doing tahriib in Puntland/Somaliland while politicians are belly dancing for aid donations. etc etc

right now these issues are more important then gender equality, this is my opinion.

Always blaming other people...that's Somalia's biggest problem. Not even war.

It is not my brotha it is quite the opposite! Somali culture has always been equalizing! Look at it before the war!
Genital mutilation happens to both men and women it's both damaging for women & men!

Here is a description on somalis in the 18 century!


They take world wide social issue & try to link it to or blame somali culture & religion for it!
It is really just a way to avoid responsibility & push they're victimhood complex!

If you have twitter follow me & together we will prove these people wrong with facts statistics logic

whats your twitter bro?

SomaliWarSavage wrote:

It is not my brotha it is quite the opposite! Somali culture has always been equalizing! Look at it before the war!
Genital mutilation happens to both men and women it's both damaging for women & men!

Here is a description on somalis in the 18 century!


They take world wide social issue & try to link it to or blame somali culture & religion for it!
It is really just a way to avoid responsibility & push they're victimhood complex!

If you have twitter follow me & together we will prove these people wrong with facts statistics logic

whats your twitter bro?

Here is the link to my twitter account
https://twitter.com/Barbaroi41/

My twitter handle is @Barbaroi41 Follow me or even tweet me!

BeyondQabil wrote:

Adali wrote:Can you define ceeb culture ? Why are they always pointing out the negatives, magnifying the bad side, every culture has a bad and a good side, we should fight the bad side by promoting the good side. I want to see more young people promoting our culture, food, music, dhaqan etc focus on the positive instead of finding a tiny negative and magnifying it to feed an audience of haters.

There is a deep rooted problem in terms of gender inequality in our country, however, our country has far worse problems, imagine the UK being at war, do you think people will care about the level of gender inequality ? no. We are used to our fucked up predicament, so desensatized to the fact that university students are bombed killed in Mogadishu, entire tribes bombed and under siege by foreigners KDF and their stooges in Kismaayo for 3 days and 3 nights killing and devastating entire neighbourhoods, drones killing nomads in Gedo. Floods of people fleeing and dying doing tahriib in Puntland/Somaliland while politicians are belly dancing for aid donations. etc etc

right now these issues are more important then gender equality, this is my opinion.

Always blaming other people...that's Somalia's biggest problem. Not even war.

It is a well known fact that you Kikuyu dogs are responsible for a large portion of the bloodshed and instability in Somalia. You Kenyan Savages even funded the Somali warlords who killed our people during the 1990's so don't you dare claim that you people don't have your hands dirty.

Yes it is our fault that Somalia is in this condition, due to our pettiness and tribalism, as well as inability to cooperate for the common good. But don't act like we won't forget what you Kenyans have done to us.

If I was President of a Somalia that was functioning and peaceful, I would do everything I can to put the pressure on you Kenyans and destabilize your piece of shit country. I would make it my priority to break up Kenya into several smaller client-states.

Believe me on that one you lowly Kenyan.

Cherine wrote:

Buraanbur wrote:She's projecting the life led by her Salafi parents onto the rest of us. I have never experienced this in my life, nor have my sisters, female cousins, or aunts. I bet if we look into the families of these twitter Somali feminists, they all have mothers who wear burqas who probably then forced them to cover before they even understood what a hijab symbolized and absentee dads ( probably with multiple wives). I know this is true for Riya and a few other Somali twitter feminists.

Instead of projecting her issues onto the whole community, she needs to address the issues that exist within her own family because this "ceeb" culture exists in HER environment. It took her 10+ years to tell them she was raped because of the "ceeb" culture that exists in her family. Her family were also the ones who pressured her to take down the video. I don't see how this is about our community as a whole?

Inaalilaah her parents are Salafi? Wouldn't have thought just by looking at her but i can see how it happened. Do they know she's gaalad?

Yes, her parents are Salafi. She is the only female in her family that doesn't cover, but even her younger sister wears the Somali jilbab which is very rare in Toronto. Farhiya insists that she's a still a Muslim, but she worships waaq in place of Allah so idk. I guess she's a progressive Muslim. lol Tbh her family consider her to be "qof wareersan" and she's actually on meds, so no one takes her views seriously. This is not to say I don't believe that she's been raped because walaahi I do, but her problem is with her family. The "ceeb" culture she speaks of exists within the walls of her home but I guess it's easier to blame those on the outside rather than place the blame on her parents and immediate family.

It shouldn't be surprising that her parents are Salafis. Ayan Hirsi's father was a Salafi-Takfiri, Amal Farah's mother is a Salafi, even our resident atheist AbdiJohnson is from a Salafi household.

Ironically I come from a family of faith. My dad and mom are very religious. So religious I had to watch tame TV shows like The Simpsons in secret when they werent around. So religious they wake me up for Fajr prayer to this day. So religious that the sound of any music, even in commercials, makes them very angry and demand it be turned off.

viewtopic.php?t=338685

Somalis need to understand the dangers of this cult and that all this suffocation will led their children into remixing the religion or leaving it all together.

SaciidAyanleh wrote:
@Buranbuur, just because her particular circumstance isn't entirely normative, you cannot completely dismiss her message. You act as if she was the only one contributing/relating to her hashtags Or maybe they're all just lashing out at bad/extremist parents.

Are you CoonKingdom? Anyway, I'm certain that her particular circumstance is pretty normal among this twitter crowd ( I know a few of them and the common denominator = Salafi parents ). If I were a betting woman, I'd bet that the overwhelming majority of this crew have extremist parents and/or family issues. They obviously don't consider their parents to be extremists, but I see them as such. Salafis are suffocating literalists who should live in secluded communities like the Amish or ultra Orthodox Jews if they have any chance of surviving in the west. How can you not see the connection? Do you not ever wonder why most ex Muslims and Salafis have practically the same EXACT view of Islam?

Here are disturbing tweets from one of the prominent members of this crowd. Do you agree with her?









Is this the shit you support? These people aren't for real issues nor are they doing anything to change the lives of women or move our cause forward. They aren't crowdfunding for scholarships for female students in Somalia, they're not starting viral campaigns to educate Somalis on the dangers of FGM, they're not doing anything about sexual assault/rape and gender-based violence in Somalia instead they're on twitter talking about how Hijabis can give head in public and we have to 'deal', calaacaling about Cadaan people studying Somalis, and advocating for transsexual Muslims and anyone who doesn't agree is gifted with barrage of insults. They're attention-seeking halimos with a platform who can corrupted youngsters on twitter and tumblr. It's dangerous and they deserve to be called out on it. I honestly don't get it..I'm a woman and I don't support these women. Why do you support them?

Buraanbur, you are the best

Kaafiye wrote:Buraanbur, you are the best :clap

I'm sure Riya and co. will say that I am an example of someone with internalized misogyny and claim what I say to score cool points with guys online.

People like Saciid want us to believe that the daily lives of these women ( along with their environment/upbringing) has absolutely nothing to do with why they are the way they are. How can this be? Our environment and parenting style have a tremendous impact on who we become later on in life. Is it a mere coincidence that nearly every ex-Muslim is from a suffocating/strict family as are many members of this twitter crowd? For heavens sake, some of these twitter chicks wear hijab not out of religious devotion but to please their parents. The chick whose tweets I posted was telling a non-Hijab to 'check' her privilege because she had no right to tell her to drop the Hijab if she was going to commit lewd acts in public. Instead of telling her that she'd crossed the line, her minions came and supported her. Is this what Saciid wants for us?

Much like vampires and their intolerance of sunlight, these females are intolerant of the truth. We cannot let them be the only voice. We must expose them for who/what they really are ( I'm not saying let's put their business out there, but we must expose their internalized Salafism and rebellion against it & their upbringing lol ). There's nothing trailblazing or epic about them; they just went from one extreme to the other.

Buraaanbur Ur awsome i am glad we have a intelligent sister on board who knows how useful critical thinking is!

i wonder why so many xalimos are pro black feminists? Many of them wear hijab at the same time have disgusting views for islam!
How many somalis are salafi anyways? i thought most somalis were Sufi or moderate Sunni!

kaafiye exposed lunarnomad couple of months ago
viewtopic.php?f=288&t=364615

I took it to twitter and got them cursing at me & she started crying and said that she was going tru suicidal tendencies depression etc


We need to expose and attack them! the truth is poisonous to them! They block you if you disagree! Or go on a tyrany of insults!
They dominate the twitter discussion on somalis and make it one sided with theyre corrupt views and misleading people with it!
Your gonna be lucky if you dont find somali girls on twitter with Blacklivesmatter and Feminsit on theyre bio!