Sending them back home if you can't raise your kids right is the best thing to do, kids will be kids, if you cannot afford to move out of a bad neighbourhood and your children is showing signs of being corrupted, then send them to Somalia, simple as that. In few years they will become mature, build a strong mentality.
I know people who gave up raising their kids in the west, its a cop out, but understandable if you know for a fact that you can't raise them right, let an ISlamic society like Egypt, Somali take care of that.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:58 am
by Jaidi
Adali wrote:Sending them back home if you can't raise your kids right is the best thing to do, kids will be kids, if you cannot afford to move out of a bad neighbourhood and your children is showing signs of being corrupted, then send them to Somalia, simple as that. In few years they will become mature, build a strong mentality.
I know people who gave up raising their kids in the west, its a cop out, but understandable if you know for a fact that you can't raise them right, let an ISlamic society like Egypt, Somali take care of that.
These degenerates just end up doing the same thing back home and with even more impunity. If they do end up coming back to the West, they immediately pick up where they left off. Using Somalia as a dumping ground for failed parenting is a pretty terrible strategy that shows these parents are still out of their depth.
BTW it isn't just Somalis who live in public housing in Canada and are Muslim, there are Arabs, South Asians etc but its only the Somalis who go after each other with relish. Crabs in a barrel.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:09 am
by Adali
I don't think you got what I was trying to say, sending home ex convics, hardened criminals isn't what I was suggesting, but sending home kids in their teens, someone needs to show them their is alternative life out there, most of these teens are trapped in a small world of thuggery and hiphop, if they get a chance to experience different world, they can redefine their identity and they stand a very high chance of completely dropping their old identity.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:25 am
by Jaidi
Adali wrote:I don't think you got what I was trying to say, sending home ex convics, hardened criminals isn't what I was suggesting, but sending home kids in their teens, someone needs to show them their is alternative life out there, most of these teens are trapped in a small world of thuggery and hiphop, if they get a chance to experience different world, they can redefine their identity and they stand a very high chance of completely dropping their old identity.
A few do to change but for majority it has no impact, if you don't believe me speak to anyone who has experience interacting with kids sent back like that or who have come back. If and when they do come back to the West they're often completely unemployable and have no relevant education or experience so are almost automatically drawn to some sort of unproductive lifestyle. There is no magic solution or shortcuts for raising functioning and respectable children in all honestly.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:42 am
by Bandit
I remember my mom suggested this stupid idea to me talking about is good for you.
I told her waisting my time following camels wasn't gonna get me anywhere in life
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:11 am
by Kaafiye
Methylamine wrote:Another shooting this morning in Dixon
What an absolute shame. I know this one guy who got shot in the leg, and this just comes after 2 Dixon guys were killed yesterday. Alhamdulilah he's stable though.
It's been said on this forum before by others, and it's still true today. Somali-Canadians are in an absolute mess, and it's partially due to our imitation of AA culture. Come to Toronto, go to the Somali neighborhoods and you will see thousands of Somali boys who speak/dress/act like Adoons. We get involved in "beefs" with each other, and a lot of us have friends who are imprisoned. We didn't have to choose this lifestyle; our youth CHOSE to pursue this lifestyle and look at the terrible results of it. SMH
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:21 am
by Kaafiye
The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.
Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:26 am
by gegiroor
Adali wrote:I don't think you got what I was trying to say, sending home ex convics, hardened criminals isn't what I was suggesting, but sending home kids in their teens, someone needs to show them their is alternative life out there, most of these teens are trapped in a small world of thuggery and hiphop, if they get a chance to experience different world, they can redefine their identity and they stand a very high chance of completely dropping their old identity.
That is exactly what I've stated as well. It is all about taking them from the gangsta neighborhood. Moreover, don't place them in big cities in Somalia or Ogaden like Mogadishu, Hargeisa, or Jigjiga. Take them to smaller towns, or even the countryside. They need to completely things that they were used to in big cities. Trust me, after year, they will change. Particularly, the teenage years, 15, 16, and 17 years of age are critical here.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:30 am
by gegiroor
Warriors wrote:I remember my mom suggested this stupid idea to me talking about is good for you.
I told her waisting my time following camels wasn't gonna get me anywhere in life
If you were a thug, dropped out of school, and was in the risk of going to jail as soon as you hit 18, you should have been sent to bachome. You should have been kept there at least 3 years, and you would have come back as a reformed man. Keep in mind the intention is to save these kids from going to jail. Black Americans do it too. If they have relatives in small cities, they send their kids to them once they start having issues at school and in the neighborhood.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:32 am
by SaciidAyanleh
Kaafiye wrote:
Adoons.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:34 am
by Jaidi
Kaafiye wrote:The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.
Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.
Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.
Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?
These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:39 am
by gegiroor
Jaidi wrote:
Kaafiye wrote:The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.
Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.
Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.
Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?
These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.
I have the answer for you: (1) Many of these boys grow up in single-mother household; (2) Many kids in these Somali households; (3) Somali parents, especially fathers, failing to spend time with their sons. Once they hit the teenage years, their parenting comes from the street and tv shows.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:40 am
by SaciidAyanleh
Jaidi wrote:
Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.
Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?
These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.
For Kaafiye, the world is a simpler place.
In Somalia, our problem is Bantus.
In North America, waa madowga.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:47 am
by Kaafiye
Jaidi wrote:
Kaafiye wrote:The Somalis in Canada have become indistinguishable from Adoons.
Just look at this video and you'll see what I'm talking about. These are the result of following a rotten "gangsta" culture, and how it completely destroyed a generation of our men.
Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.
Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?
These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.
Do you actually have the nerve to be defending this rotten "gangsta" culture, and claiming that it's not the main reason why Somalis in Canada are doing terribly? Are you kidding me?
I know plenty of West Africans, including Ghanaians and Nigerians, who tell me personally to run far far away from this destructive AA culture. Even THEY know how dangerous it is, even THEY know what the long-term implications of following this culture would be. Talk to any Senegalese or Cameroonian immigrant in the US, and he will tell you the exact same thing. This "gangsta" behavior is a culture in and of itself, and it's predominant in AA neighborhoods in the US, in rap music videos, as well as TV shows. The Somali-Canadians have imitated this culture and it's led to the destruction of an entire generation of our men. Hence why you're starting to see high dropout rates at our highschools, high murder rates, and high incarceration rates. We've started to see Somali boys adopt the mannerisms, lingo, and behavior of AA's, and anyone who's well-acquainted with Somali-Canadians will say the exact same thing.
Re: 4 Somalis Shot Dead in Canada
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:52 am
by Kaafiye
SaciidAyanleh wrote:
Jaidi wrote:
Even Somali in tune with their culture are doing terrible in the West, don't blame other peoples culture. Scandinivia, Western Europe, UK, in almost every place Somalis are at the very bottom when it comes to every metric.
Also many West African and Caribbean (in the U.S.) immigrants do better than Somalis on every single outcome, how do you explain this? What about Eritrean/Ethiopian kids man who grow up in similar circumstances, have many who dress and like the same things but are much less prone to killing each other?
These one stop solutions that emphasize culture or religion ignore the big picture that is Somalis generally are doing bad everywhere.
For Kaafiye, the world is a simpler place.
In Somalia, our problem is Bantus.
In North America, waa madowga.
In Somalia, our problem is our opportunistic and divisive leadership.
I've said that on this forum time and time again you blithering fool. Pay attention to what I'm saying and maybe you won't sound like such an idiot.
If you want to make excuses for the bad Somali behavior in Canada, and then claim that it's due to some other factor such as "White privilege" or some other idiotic reason which you pro-Black Brigade members conjure up whenever we are discussing Somali failures in North America, then go right ahead. But anyone who's been to Canada or who knows Somali-Canadians would realize that this "gangsta" culture has permeated thousands of our youth, and these are the negative results of it.
