hiiraan post- young abdifatah

[TheblueNwhite]

Nerdfresh

You said Buleburde was under Al Shabab and stronghold because Gunghdbube are Pro Al Shabab? I hope you see what is wrong with that statement hopefully you know how in the end Clans who are viewed to be heavily Pro Shabab end up case in Point Murusade.

Good point.

[nerdfresh]

Gugundhabe is not only pro alshabab but the majority in bulorbarde and jalalaqsi but u can continue to pat your xawadle pet in the back and tell him fairytales to make him feel better about himself. if u had any love for Hawadle Mudulood would have fought for them to give them more committee seats but u thought Hg and gugundhabe deserved more than them which is why you stamped the list with a big smile on your face. maybe Hawadle now will cooperate more with other reer hiiraan and now abandon their 25 year no strings attached cooperation with abgal but too little too late Hawadle has been seen as untrustworthy and hostile to gugundhabe and gugundhabe will be cooperating with Hg the fair and noble clan may my hg cousins hey be protected from the evil eye. Gugundhabe looks forward to strengthening Hg gugundhabe relationship its very strong and will become even stronger. Gugundhabe stands behind the noble Hg.

The relationship of abgal and Hawadle is finished after what Hawadle has seen and now Hawadle sees they have no real friends. They now regret pissing off gugundhabe since 91' their neighbors and who they intermarry and share half their family with. They were fooled and their pride has been shattered they came into the Shabelle talks as Hawadle rather than hiiraan. This is what happens when u have a big ego. They singlehandedly destroyed hiiraan influence by refusing to see gugundhabe as part of hiiraan. Hiiraan is finished and gugundhabe is with habar gidir as the shabelle block. Hawadle got too big for their britches. Now look at the result. They have no ally now in Shabelle state even Mudulood has sided with the Hg

Hawadle miscalculated and the fate is sealed. They r the biggest losers in Shabelle state.

Good job abgal. You played your cards right. Hg made a nice win as well.

As a province interest gugundhabe lost but as a clan they also came out as winners. Gugundhabe after all is more represented in the committee than hawadle. Hawadle thought they were equal to abgal but according to the committee list abgal thinks they are not even equal to Hg or gugundhabe but equal to reer aw hassan

Rip hiiraan 1960 - 2015 we might as well call this new state middle Shabelle state. Hiiraan has been politically invaded. There was no hiiraan middle state merger. It was a hostile annexation. There is no two province unity. And Hawadle is to blame for their ego

[Osob101]

Clearly you have some serious issues with Xawadle judging from your anger and resentment. First of all the so called gudiga farsamada has been declared illegitimate and Mudulood themselves came out against it. Secondly supporting Al Shabab just because you hate Xawadle and Abgaal is not an answer. Al Shabab are an evil entity that will be Elminated and unless you went to end up in the same boat them, I suggest you came to the table and fight for your rights.

[nerdfresh]

Every year you all say Al Shabab will be eliminated and every year you are proven wrong. Al Shabab has released a video of them taking over a Amisom base outside janaale just this week. Anyone would be foolish to dismiss them. SNA has captured no new land and every so often we hear of new Al Shabab captured territory and tuulo.

Stop hiding behind amisom tanks and fight the so called minorities on your own. There will be no coming to the table with hiiraan unuka leh crew. They had decades to do that. But they refused.

Murusade Duduble and gugundhabe have tried to do peaceful dialogue for decades with you and it doesn't work. Only violence does. Even with amisom you are no match for Shabab. SNA and Amisom doesn't control much. 75% of the south is under Shabab and the time amisom leaves it will become 100% by dinner time.

As for Hawadle the fact that Mudulood had stamped that list in the first place shows your utter contempt for them and their worth in Shabelle state. Hawadle disappointment will only continue when it comes to actual powersharing. You even know the VP will end up being HG. Even a Sheikhaal has a better chance than Hawadle.

Let Hawadle face the consequences of their actions. But we all know Hawadle are regretting not coming into these talks as reer hiiraan rather than ilmo samatalis. They are seeing with their own eyes when the final product is released that they will be screwed by the mudulood they allied with. Middle Shabelle came in as a team (not as clans) and Hawadle wasn't using their brain.

No need to lessen the impact of this hawadle nightmare. You can't tell hawadle with a poker face that they will be VP. You can't. You know that kursi is reserved for HG and this is what is pushed by faraax cabdulqadir and his Hg friends and this is an open secret in Xamar.

[sahal80]

Nerdfresh al liyu police when did you became al shabaab supporter???

Got your jajeele videos dont let me expose your habasho kalkaal ass more than this!!


They say idaa lam tastaxyi fasnac maa shita

Honestly gugundhaba are magac uyaal clan except gaaljecel who their camel in hiiraan drink from from wells in walawayn!!

Badicade r the smallest somali clan you can ever imagin and they dont dare to fight with the smallest hawadle subclan

The only gugundhabe who live with us in buloburde and jalalaqsi are baadicade.....theres no single one baadicade village in buuloburde district, gaaljecel villages r found in its country side such as buqda, ceelcali..

The only badicade village is buurweyn wich falls under jalalaqsi district and you dont need to mention all the nearby hawadle villages in the east, at the highway between buuloburde and beledweyne and south of buuluburde

baadicadi minority live in theses two towns

there r gaaljecel dominated two villages that fall under jalalaqsi and they r shaw and jimbileey at the borders....yes there r hawadle two who dominate in fiidow...badicade dominate in buurwayn...next you got buurane(baadicade)and mahadaay(agoon abgaal) in the middle shabeele

Jejeeli lives in bakool and far libaax arpund mustaxiil

this is why hiiraan basically means hawadle...these r called beelaha cirifyada and its common in every region


Mr nerdfresh there were no amisom in 2006..how come your so called gugundhabe hasnt fired one bullet against dabageed when the former district commissioner challenged the new one named by him?

http://cagaare.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/m ... a.html?m=1


As for al shabab, as I mentioned long time, at first it was a hawadle business

Al shabab come from the town of halgan, cabdale and reer ugaas stronghols....they were part of sh macow admin before that....but after the killing of omar hashi and the 70 leaders and the lack of financial support from the TFG he handed the power over to sh shuuriye, a hawadle member of hizpul isam...but bc of the sensitivity between HG and hawadle, the local elders have encouraged the youth to join al shabab....forces from halgan led by yuusuf ugaas-the nephew of professor warfaa- have attacked hizpul islam..hence why yuusuf ugaad became the al shabaab wali in hiiraan....shuuriye has moved to afgooye when hassan dahir was there but he was one of the guys who got killed in baraawe by godane

Logically, if we believe the nonesense of this looma ooyaan, it should had a gugubdhabe leader!

Why al shabab have to depend on hawadle and not "gugundhabe"?

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qZa ... gUCh2A6g2S

yuusif ugaas has never targeted beledweyne since abdifatah has taken office but after the al shabab split godane has made some changes....for ceelbuur, he appointed duduble against murursade.....usually murursade were the leaders.....for buuloburde, he sent a new mx waali (maxamed xirsi), ogaadeen and eelaay commanders....ninkii isku qarxiyay hotel camalow was ogadeen. There r murursade too so keep claiming in a business you have no role in it!


The turth is about one thing: every minority hate the majority..gugundhabe minority hate hawadle even if its the one who fights for their rights

They would prefer HG to take their seats if this is anti-hawadle interests

Right now, in the new comittee, we have allocated for them more seats than HG....yet this gaaljecel mp from kismayo supports the HG angenda!!

Gaaljecel got one seat and HG two seats in the old committtee, in the new comittee they got tgree!!

Jajeele nothing now they have!

gaaljecel is more pro-al shaab but now they have changed abit

Cudur udhinta!

[AbdiWahab252]

Sahal,


Nerdfresh is a native son of Hiiraan who offers an alternative to your narrative in which Hiiraan is 90% Xawadle. Your enemity of HG is ingrained much so that when you were allocated 1 seat as Xabadle you lashed out at HG. We are not the majority in Hiiraan nor do we run Villa Somalia so why blame us?

No HG backstabbed Xawadle. You joined USC after the Ogaden took over your land. Yes, we armed and financed you and brought you to the forefront of politics because you were antiDarood more than all the other Hawiye clans. But in the end, you backstabbed us in Djibouti when Omar Hashi, Caydiid's representative voted for Ali Mahdi's government. It was the ultimate act of backstabbing.

[GeoSeven]

If Nerdfresh is Jajeele then I'm the Virgin Mary. The man is hilarious

Abdiwahab adeer, nonsenso.

[sahal80]

Sahal,


Nerdfresh is a native son of Hiiraan who offers an alternative to your narrative in which Hiiraan is 90% Xawadle. Your enemity of HG is ingrained much so that when you were allocated 1 seat as Xabadle you lashed out at HG. We are not the majority in Hiiraan nor do we run Villa Somalia so why blame us?

No HG backstabbed Xawadle. You joined USC after the Ogaden took over your land. Yes, we armed and financed you and brought you to the forefront of politics because you were antiDarood more than all the other Hawiye clans. But in the end, you backstabbed us in Djibouti when Omar Hashi, Caydiid's representative voted for Ali Mahdi's government. It was the ultimate act of backstabbing.

kkkk at HG arming hawadle!

When abdiqasim was arming barre hiiraale with his arab millions, omar hashi has told him if you want hiiraan, allocate for us a portion of this money I'm going to beledweyne and convince this col hassan qalaad. Abdiqasim who was lacking sacad and xamar support couldnt believe this offer so he named omar hashi as his finance minister but soon, as HG finds out, they come to him and told him " war ma waalatey? Ma hawaadlaad nagu hubaynaysaa!!"

Qalaad has told omar hashi, ok wheres the money? When he went back to mogadishu, hashi has called him back and say the fking qasim has changed his mind tell him to fk off if he wants to come beledweyne to make publicity ...and this is why he got denied...


As for the USCs military wing, Its base was mainly hawadle....wardhegleey was lacking murursade base....local commanders were shabeel(cayr) and farax gubadleey...most weapons were ghanima...we have liberated buloburde before your fking towns...infact the regime was using HG commanders against us in baadiyaha..mx and OG were only operating in the towns.

I will give you SNM source... dont forget that iririms itself was intruduced by sh ali jimacaale and its reason why hiiraan was the only koonfur gobol who voted NO for the unity after cigaal lost the pm post

So after the split of wardhiigley from SNM, while waiting the formation of the USC, your HG tried to join siyad barre through SSDF!! It was us who kept the army together until the formation of the USC

Geo,

did abulqadir koosaar had personal relations with some hawadle?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... M9qdzYPklg


AW

HG cant damage us at all, it will only damage HG interests!!

Hassan sheekh has been obeying HG after the formation of galmudug thats why the appointment of indhocade and others bc HG as a clan dont support the govt but he thinks he will get what he needs through their state led by his friend guleed.

The HG pressure on him has reached hiiraan in a time they face war from pl! HG iyo damac!

But yoy stupid if you think that you can have a say in hiiraan neither hiraab can have a say in hiiraan...

hawadle has a lot of hidden cards also hassan sh knows that HG are unpredictable.

We will support the anti-HG campies....soon we will see refugees from xamar itself!!

[Osob101]

AW

Adiga qas lee maa wade waligaa. Nin Sacad ba tahaaye and your nearest Deegan to Hiiran does not come until you reach Gelinsoor and somehow Wilka yare Odowa decided to manipulate the system and give you a seat LOL. Maa waxa rabtaa Inaad the yum yum 1991ki keenestaye Inaad waa Hiiraan uga hesho? Hiiraan waa Xawadle and their Minority so let them sort it out themselves. Adiga hadaaye meeshan hunguri kaa galaaye anigaan Hiraab isla nahaaye kalaaye ilaa xisaabtan.

Nerd fresh

Al Shabaab Ayaan ka buuxnaa maa ku faane acudibillah. War isku Xisho, read carefully what you have written. You basically are saying am a Langaab and can't face Hawadle alone and will side with Al Shabab and HG LOL.

[sahal80]

AW

Adiga qas lee maa wade waligaa. Nin Sacad ba tahaaye and your nearest Deegan to Hiiran does not come until you reach Gelinsoor and somehow Wilka yare Odowa decided to manipulate the system and give you a seat LOL. Maa waxa rabtaa Inaad the yum yum 1991ki keenestaye Inaad waa Hiiraan uga hesho? Hiiraan waa Xawadle and their Minority so let them sort it out themselves. Adiga hadaaye meeshan hunguri kaa galaaye anigaan Hiraab isla nahaaye kalaaye ilaa xisaabtan.

Nerd fresh

Al Shabaab Ayaan ka buuxnaa maa ku faane acudibillah. War isku Xisho, read carefully what you have written. You basically are saying am a Langaab and can't face Hawadle alone and will side with Al Shabab and HG LOL.

wallahi ustaad osob dadkaan caqligooda ma weynaado.

[Osob101]

Sahalow

Dadka xaqooda iska siiya. Reer Hiiraan need to have a gogol walaahi among all the clans. Xawadle dhibka kook joojiya. Maalin Dir Ayaad isku dhagantiihin, the next day baadicade, next day Galjecel. Meeshaan 1991 lama joogo. Dadka xaqooda siiya.

[Sumubaridi]

Akhiyaarta, Xawaadle wants the President and the Capital of Hiiraan/Shablle State. Nothing short of that. If they do not get that, there won't be peace in beletweyne. Mudulood already got Muqdisho and I don't believe they should be the president of Maamul gobolleed.

So I am with Xawaadle here. Gugundhabe Madaxweyne kuxigeenka iyo mayor ka beletweyne haqaataan. Case closed.

[sahal80]

Sahalow

Dadka xaqooda iska siiya. Reer Hiiraan need to have a gogol walaahi among all the clans. Xawadle dhibka kook joojiya. Maalin Dir Ayaad isku dhagantiihin, the next day baadicade, next day Galjecel. Meeshaan 1991 lama joogo. Dadka xaqooda siiya.

HAG hadaad caqli qabteen get my point.

Meeshaan cid walbe gurigeeda ayadaa ka masuul ah, hadey banadir iyo jowhar timaado, hawadle ma dhex galo...waa buux qabiilo waliba gaaljecel sida ayagu sheegtaan si siman bay labada dhinav u dagan yihiin, bilcaksi kuwa maamulka hiiraan ku jira waa caloofi iyo barsane oo dhiniciina dega waxaana ay ku heleen 4.5 ee kuma helin deegaan ahaan Iyo maadama ay jufooyinka waa wayn yihiin. Anaga waxaa nala dega abtisame bas msrkii garweyne uu maxkanadaha hiiraan ka soo galay xukuumadii sh sharif waa tii ay beelihii jowhar qayliyeen!

Waxaa ka soo jeeda sh xassan al barsane

Anga ma fara gashano mudug sidoo kale

Fikirkaan bas ayaa horumar ku imaan karaa ee ku imaan karo intii wax cidiyahaada hoostooda ku jira aad ku mashquulsantahay

Xataa hadii aan waanadaada qaadan lahaa, maamulka jowhar waa unukaa leh marka loo fiiriyo kan hiiraan

Governor- hawadle
Vice-governers: gaaljecel, baadicade iyo makane
Gudomiyaha beldweyne" gaaljecel
Gudoomiyaha buulo burde: baadicadde
Taliyaha policeka: jijeele

Dadkaan wax looma diidina ee waana la isku fiicnaa ilaa 94kii markaas oo ay warqad HG noqdeen

Odawaa wuxuu tagey bas cadaado iyo dhuuso mareeb, wuxuu mustaqbalka mudug kala shiray bas beeshiisa ayadoo beelo waaweyn ay dagaan sida mareexaan iyo murursade

Bsnadir iyo jowhar wuxuu kala hadlaa bas abgaal
http://allbadweyn.net/sawiro-wasiir-oda ... -muqdisho/

Laakiin wuxuu kulan daandaansi ah la qaatey baadicade oo hal tuulo xuduuda hiran kuleh waliba aan la degno!

Waa maxay sabata hiiraab afaarahooda ay muqadas u yihiin laakiin hiiraan jufo jufo dadka loola kul mayo?

Mala socotaa in uu fashilmay mudaharaad labo caruur lagu soo aruuriyay oo ay ka danbeysay wasiiradii hore ee baadicade oo odowaa taageersan oo la rabay inuu ka dhaco buuloburde?

Waxaa ka hortagey askartii iyo dadka meesha joogay ilaa uu gudoomiyihii qalqil galay!

Ka waran hadii badicade la qixin lahaa? Yaa ka masuul ah? Ma wasiir somaliyeed baa ninka sidaa u dhaqmaya mise waa waa wasiir HG?

Wasiirka beeshiisa wax waa u tari karaa, beeshiisuu matalaa laakiin ma gali karo kulamo faaro qabiil gobol kale!

Marka faham masaakiintaa waxaa lugooyay HG oo ma ogala siyaasad ahaan in hawadle naamulo gobolka.

[AbdiWahab252]

Osob,

Hadu Tarsan noqdey Gudomiyeha Banadir isago oo ah nin Rer Itoobiya iyo Farah oo ah Itoobiyan laga dhigi doona Madaxweyne HiirShabbeele maxa loo dida nin Sacad oo ah Rer Beledweyne ah inu xubin ka noqdo mamuulka.


Sahal,

Gardara jooji, HG waxay uu istagan xuquqda Hawiye kale. Hadad rabtiin meel qas ni ah, Feerfeer Mamuul uu sameeysta. Manta tabar iyo dhaqalo uma haysiin iin aad dhicisin cadowga ha noqdo Makane Dir etc.

[Osob101]

Sahal

You really need to stop day dreaming. Galjecel live in Jowhar and they already get their share but there is more of them in Hiiraan. Xawadle alone can not govern Hiiraan and must share with others. Yes they are majority and will always have the upper hand but respect the minority or you will keep pushing them to Al Shabab.

Abdirahman

Tarzan waa nin Mudulood kuna dashaaye Xamar, Laakin you are a Sacad and have no say in Hiiraan. Stick to Mugdi Mudug. As Farax, he has more chance of becoming the governor of Cadaado than any where near Middle Shabeele or Hiiraan.