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Re: Why don't you respect your ancestors and their beliefs?

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Somalidu armayba waligood islaam ahaayen oo 1 ilaah uun caabudijireen.

Ilaah, iyo Eebe waa sow af somali ma aha? De waligeenba ilaahayga xaqqa lagu caabudaan caabudi jiray.
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gegiroor wrote:Once they attack you with the charge "ignorance," you know they are out of ammunition and have no facts to dispute you.

@InaXasan, the paganism that was practiced in the Horn of Africa and the one practiced in the Middle East before the advent of Islam was the same. While Arabs called Hubal, in the Horn of Africa, it was called Waaq.

Additionally, burying girls while in fact was practiced in the Horn of Africa in the past but it was stopped at some point. Somalis has a saying, "Hadal iyo gabdhoba iyagoo aan la jeclayn bay bataan." Why the Somalis hated having daughters, as that proverb explains, if such practices were not in place or not practiced at some point? The culture of families not wanted to have daughters were very common in the Middle East and in the Horn of Africa before the advent of Islam. You can dance around it all you want, but it was practiced in the Somali territories at some point.
The culture of families not wanting daughters was also common in India,China,and other Asian cultures largely because of misogynistic view they held and continue to hold even to this day, does that mean they practiced the same religion as Pre-Islamic Arabs? There is no prove linking Waaq with Arab paganism.
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Waar wa mah-maah wuxuu ninku shegayo.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: @xaliye. i like your dialog, are you rer galbeed/killilka?
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Itrah wrote:
GAMES wrote:Waan gartay. But i know a lot of Somalis who would take offense to being told they came from Daanyeero.
The same idiots are probably also benefiting from medicine first tested on mice and baboons before being used by humans. If there was no close evolutionary relationship (like with birds or reptiles) most medicine today would not have been available for human consumption.

Are you having a laugh?!

So what if humans and animals share similarities -we are both created by Allah swt; that does not mean we evolved from them. It is clear how humans were created by Allah in the Quran - Animals were created to benefit humans- so there is nothing wrong testing medicine on them for humans sake- so you suggesting Muslims are hypocritical for taking such medicines is just whereabouts of nothing.
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Haa awow lakin, hadda waxaan ahay reer Jubbaland ileen somali waa reer guura e sow garanmaysid.

Shekhow Eebe iyo ilaah ma af carabibaa?
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Illah isn't just Allah. as quran " الهكم اله واحد" . Ebbe i dont know, it's not arabic that i know.
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Skippa wrote:if these ancestors were not muslim, (btw, Islam did not start 1400 + years ago) they were jaahiliin and their beliefs do not matter (except in an academic setting)
That's a very ignorant mind-set. If we follow your logic to it's conclusion then the whole world would stop and remain in the dark-ages. Do you watch tv? Maybe you should stop because the tv was invented by a "jaahil" and the programmes you are watching are made by "jaahils". Are we going to forgo the wisdom of Ancient Rome, Greece, Egypt, China and India because they weren't muslim? In that case, you should leave the "jaahil" West and live in your tuulo back in Somalia where the river flow milk and honey. Without the ancients, we wouldn't have modern science, medicine, technology and art/culture. The greatest age in Islamic history was the age when muslim scholars were learning and transtlating the works of Galen and Aristotle.

Many of you are munafiqiin. You pretend to be holy and pious when it suits you. The Gaalo you insult and make fun of are 1000 years ahead of you in every aspect fo life. If they weren't, you would be living in Somalia/Djibouti right now.
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Theguardian wrote:Are you having a laugh?!

So what if humans and animals share similarities -we are both created by Allah swt; that does not mean we evolved from them. It is clear how humans were created by Allah in the Quran - Animals were created to benefit humans- so there is nothing wrong testing medicine on them for humans sake- so you suggesting Muslims are hypocritical for taking such medicines is just whereabouts of nothing.
It is a fact. I have no interest in discussing it to be honest because the scientific community has a 100% consensus on evolution being true.
Only religious lunatics make it seem like there is still doubt about it among scientists, but in reality no serious scientist disagrees with the theory of evolution.

This is not 1915 but 2015. Get out of your cave.
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Hyperactive wrote:Illah isn't just Allah. as quran " الهكم اله واحد" . Ebbe i dont know, it's arabic that i know.
ha waan u malayn.

Intii ayna diintu inna so gaadhin somalidu 1 ilaah umbay caabudi jirtay, 1 ilaah umbayna caabudaa ilaa iyo hadda ilahii ismuuna badalin lakin waxaa kusoo kordhay kitaabka Quraanka kariimka ah marka waligeenba ilahay waaynu caabudi jiray e yaan lays wareerin.

Qofkii u bahaan inuu aqoon korodhsado tan xaqqa aha ha korodhsado wabilahi tawfiiq.
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Itrah
It is a fact. I have no interest in discussing it to be honest because the scientific community has a 100% consensus on evolution being true.

This is not 1815 but 2015.
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Oh dear me!

Well, you should know what scientist consider to be "true" today - can easily be refuted tomorrow....like they have done so in many other theories -reason why is it call theory :) (i.e. it is on going discussion).
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Theguardian wrote:Oh dear me!

Well, you should know what scientist consider to be "true" today - can easily be refuted tomorrow....like they have done so in many other theories -reason why is it call theory :) (i.e. it is on going discussion).
:mindblown: :snoop:

You epic noob. In the scientific realm a theory means what is colloquially referred to as ''fact'' while hypothesis means what is colloquially referred to as ''theory''. Evolution is not a hypothesis any more but has gained the status of being a solid theory (i.e. FACT).

Gravity is also ''just a theory'' but are you willing to jump from a building because gravity is ''just a theory''. :roll: :lol:

You evolved from primates, accept it and move on.
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Itrah wrote:
:mindblown: :snoop:

You epic noob. In the scientific realm a theory means what is colloquially referred to as ''fact'' while hypothesis means what is colloquially referred to as ''theory''. Evolution is not a hypothesis any more but has gained the status of being a solid theory (i.e. FACT).

Gravity is also ''just a theory'' but are you willing to jump from a building because gravity is ''just a theory''. :roll: :lol:

You evolved from primates, accept it and move on.
Tbf I think he is a strong argument against evolution. :lol:
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
Skippa wrote:if these ancestors were not muslim, (btw, Islam did not start 1400 + years ago) they were jaahiliin and their beliefs do not matter (except in an academic setting)
That's a very ignorant mind-set. If we follow your logic to it's conclusion then the whole world would stop and remain in the dark-ages. Do you watch tv? Maybe you should stop because the tv was invented by a "jaahil" and the programmes you are watching are made by "jaahils". Are we going to forgo the wisdom of Ancient Rome, Greece, Egypt, China and India because they weren't muslim? In that case, you should leave the "jaahil" West and live in your tuulo back in Somalia where the river flow milk and honey. Without the ancients, we wouldn't have modern science, medicine, technology and art/culture. The greatest age in Islamic history was the age when muslim scholars were learning and transtlating the works of Galen and Aristotle.

Many of you are munafiqiin. You pretend to be holy and pious when it suits you. The Gaalo you insult and make fun of are 1000 years ahead of you in every aspect fo life. If they weren't, you would be living in Somalia/Djibouti right now.

Oh I so pity people like you. So easily confused and brainwashed.
No one is calling people of today or those who lived 100 years ago jaahil - they are just none- Muslims; who have chosen to reject Allah revelation in the Quran. Those that lived/existed before the Quran was revealed were called ignorant.
Allah has blessed non Muslims with the intelligence to enjoy this world - nothing to admire or hate - it is their paradise where for Muslims this world is a just a test filled with hardship.
So you belittling Muslims shortcomings in this world exposes how limited your knowledge is in the matter.
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Itrah wrote:
Theguardian wrote:Oh dear me!

Well, you should know what scientist consider to be "true" today - can easily be refuted tomorrow....like they have done so in many other theories -reason why is it call theory :) (i.e. it is on going discussion).
:mindblown: :snoop:

You epic noob. In the scientific realm a theory means what is colloquially referred to as ''fact'' while hypothesis means what is colloquially referred to as ''theory''. Evolution is not a hypothesis any more but has gained the status of being a solid theory (i.e. FACT).

Gravity is also ''just a theory'' but are you willing to jump from a building because gravity is ''just a theory''. :roll: :lol:

You evolved from primates, accept it and move on.
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