Axmed Gurey and Imam Axmed Ibraahim Al Ghaazi, revisited.

[X.Playa]

Its obvious the so called Imaam was not Somali nor was he an Arab, in the text at Hawash crossing the river he talks to the Arabs and says " The Somalis and us are not a people of water , you Arabs are people of water , devised a plan to cross the river". so that alone excludes his Arabism. He is most likely an Afar or related clans.

[AwRastaale]

We Ogaden are closest to Ethiopia so we are the IMAM!

Look at the image your Ogaden chief kissing the hands of his master like a slave






Doing Dhaanto for the Master



Eeven your women are shaking Booty for the Master



Indeed you are the decendant of Ahmed Gurey

Interesting pictures.

While this subject have you heard of the Ogaden poet who composed a great poem for Emperor Haile Selassie?

He praised the Emperor and kissed his boots.

He composed this poem when Tima Adde was composing Kana Siib Kana Sar.

Basically he was thanking him for his leadership, governance and FREEDOM.

He thought Ethiopia was going to grant him freedom so they may unite with Somaliland and Somalia--1st of July.

But after all that Haile just slapped him with more looting.

Meles did the same to both OLF and ONLF but only approved of his fellow Tigrinya speaking EPLF--Eritrea.

[X.Playa]

One other contemporary document might shed light into this era , a Portuges manuscript written by a solider during these wars narrating his experience . Storia della Spedizione Portoghese In Abissinia Nel Secolo XVI , Narrated by Michele Decastagnoso.

[JSL3000]

Interesting findings xplaya.

But I thought Iman axmed was reer saylici you know that mix breed of arab, somali and was the last persian.

[drobbah]

Imam Ahmad was not Somali thats for sure.He's ethnic origins are still unclear.As for the Axmad Guray(not to be confused for the leader of the invasion force) was indeed a Habar Maagadle.Imam Axmad it is said burnt Habar Magaadle lands for refusing to pay Zakah!

HabarMagaadle ain't no more honorable then the other clans except Garre.The leader of the garre tribe was extremely close to the Imam and was extremely pious like Imam Ahmed.The Garres fully invested their entire tribe for Imam Ahmad.As for Habar Magaadle,Marexan and others they were forced to join the Imam and after some victories they noticed they can get wealthy from the invasion of the Highlands.

Another thing to add is for some reason in the Army formations made,the Somali clans were made into one contingent while Habar Magaadle were put into another contingent with Ethio-Semites.I think maybe it is because Habar Magaadle was hated by other Somalis just like now lol.Isaaq forever being hated on by other Somalis smh

[Ben Dover]

In this document a distinction is made between Giri (the people) and Grañ (the man):

Islamic History and Culture in Southern Ethiopia: Collected Essays (Gottinger Studien zur Ethnologie)

http://pdfsr.com/isbn/9783825856717

You will also find mention of the Harala people.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ahmed Gurey Raximahullah was the chief of Habr-Magaadle and a great warrior. Imam Ahmed ibn al Gazi raximahullah was most likely an imam of mixed Afar-Dir stock, just like the Walashma Dynasty.

[X.Playa]

Imam Ahmad was not Somali thats for sure.He's ethnic origins are still unclear.As for the Axmad Guray(not to be confused for the leader of the invasion force) was indeed a Habar Maagadle.Imam Axmad it is said burnt Habar Magaadle lands for refusing to pay Zakah!

HabarMagaadle ain't no more honorable then the other clans except Garre.The leader of the garre tribe was extremely close to the Imam and was extremely pious like Imam Ahmed.The Garres fully invested their entire tribe for Imam Ahmad.As for Habar Magaadle,Marexan and others they were forced to join the Imam and after some victories they noticed they can get wealthy from the invasion of the Highlands.

Another thing to add is for some reason in the Army formations made,the Somali clans were made into one contingent while Habar Magaadle were put into another contingent with Ethio-Semites.I think maybe it is because Habar Magaadle was hated by other Somalis just like now lol.Isaaq forever being hated on by other Somalis smh

You are confused , its Gerri not Garre, Garri are Oromo/Somali southern clan , Gerri is Gerri Koombe a Daarood sub clan , like the Aba-Yoonis the maternal parents of the Habar (aba)Yoonis clan and Ba-Gerri of the Ogaden. This Imaam himself was a slaver who sold thousands of Ethiopians and Tigre into slavery and pillaged their land , for him also it was matter of wealth and less of Jihad, no different then the rest of the tribal/ethnic Muslim confederacy.

Now as your assertion they were hated , that's an statement smeared with feces because its straight out of your anus. The text of the raid against the Mareexaan and Habar Magaadle is ambiguous the Arab chronicle consistently confuses clans and its leaders. I myself have my reservations on the entire text , the Arab's account in most probability is a second hand account , it doesn't look he witnessed it first hand or that he lived enough in the land to know who was who.

[X.Playa]

In this document a distinction is made between Giri (the people) and Grañ (the man):

Islamic History and Culture in Southern Ethiopia: Collected Essays (Gottinger Studien zur Ethnologie)

http://pdfsr.com/isbn/9783825856717

You will also find mention of the Harala people.

In most translation the distinction is found , but the original Arabic seems to be the problem , the Arabs have no "G" letter , even the translators use G instead of J, the letter J correspondence perfectly with the Arabic Jiim, so it should be spelled Jeri and Jurey technically not Gurey and Gerri.

[inaXasan]

Imam Ahmed was Ogaden. I thought everyone already knew this! why argue??

[X.Playa]

^^^^ and Micheal Jackson also and Barak Obama and even Booker T. Washington.

[inaXasan]

^^^^ and Micheal Jackson also and Barak Obama and even Booker T. Washington.

[inaXasan]

He probably wasn't even Somali. Stop revising history.

If he was then we all know his clan

[X.Playa]

Stupid Kummbo, and who the fuck was talking about that dude ??

[Siciid85]

It sounds this imam was not Somali and the armies he led were diverse and must have included non Somalis. And the fact that each Somali commander had to be referred to as "AsSomali" indicates that.

First to arrive were Habar Magaadle led by Ahmed Xussein "Gurey " Assomali" and the imam Was pretty impressed and thrilled to have them joined him

It seems each clan had also their own symbol or flag.