U.S. seeks to revoke citizenship of Somali-born Muslim cleric

[Lamagoodle]

I think 38 is a typo.

Come on polygamy is not a reason to deport but I think there is something more to this story; Youtube videos are good references if you want to deport somali "wahabi" wadaads. Hatred, bigotry and lies is what wahabis feeds on. Where is that sheikh that claimed that hundreds(thousands?) or HIV/aids suffers were locked in the UK?

The root cause of the somali problem can be deduced to the wahabi wadaads and their lies. Culumadii hore waay xishoon jirey. These new Wahabi wadaads are the waan-daadshe type.

Double standards; Yalaxoow and other swedes have probably seen the videos from somali wahabi wadaads in Sweden who said something in public and did another thing on hidden camera. Örebro sheikh, Bashir Amaan ( a pathologically liar who is nothing short of a religious entrepreneur) who claimed female circumcision is xaraam and then in private told a lady to go to Egypt where he had contacts to be cut.

Bring us the sheikhs/culuma who were careful to say things; culumadii sharafta leh oo xishoon jirtey not this lying machines who engage in religious entrepreneurship to get laid/enrich their pockets.

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

I think 38 is a typo.

Come on polygamy is not a reason to deport but I think there is something more to this story; Youtube videos are good references if you want to deport somali "wahabi" wadaads. Hatred, bigotry and lies is what wahabis feeds on. Where is that sheikh that claimed that hundreds(thousands?) or HIV/aids suffers were locked in the UK?

The root cause of the somali problem can be deduced to the wahabi wadaads and their lies. Culumadii hore waay xishoon jirey. These new Wahabi wadaads are the waan-daadshe type.

Double standards; Yalaxoow and other swedes have probably seen the videos from somali wahabi wadaads in Sweden who said something in public and did another thing on hidden camera. Örebro sheikh, Bashir Amaan ( a pathologically liar who is nothing short of a religious entrepreneur) who claimed female circumcision is xaraam and then in private told a lady to go to Egypt where he had contacts to be cut.

Bring us the sheikhs/culuma who were careful to say things; culumadii sharafta leh oo xishoon jirtey not this lying machines who engage in religious entrepreneurship to get laid/enrich their pockets.

Wahabism is a euphemism used by ignorant Muslims as a means to blame all their problems on a certaint belief. I suggest you read the many beneficial books written by Sheikh Mohammed ibn Abdulwahhab. Wahabism does not exist. It's a myth created by the many individuals he angered when he spoke against the dangers of grave worshipping, veneration of saints....etc. Don't take my word for it, please go and research about him objectively.

As for Somali scholars, it's true that many of them simply don't respect Islam anymore. Being a 'Sheikh' has unfortunately become something trivial and people who are ignorant on the very tenets of Islam have started to proclaim themselves as scholars just to advancd their social standings. I agree with you on this matter. But it has nothing to do with 'Wahabism'. Additionally, this phenomenon also affects all Muslim communities.

[Lamagoodle]

I think 38 is a typo.

Come on polygamy is not a reason to deport but I think there is something more to this story; Youtube videos are good references if you want to deport somali "wahabi" wadaads. Hatred, bigotry and lies is what wahabis feeds on. Where is that sheikh that claimed that hundreds(thousands?) or HIV/aids suffers were locked in the UK?

The root cause of the somali problem can be deduced to the wahabi wadaads and their lies. Culumadii hore waay xishoon jirey. These new Wahabi wadaads are the waan-daadshe type.

Double standards; Yalaxoow and other swedes have probably seen the videos from somali wahabi wadaads in Sweden who said something in public and did another thing on hidden camera. Örebro sheikh, Bashir Amaan ( a pathologically liar who is nothing short of a religious entrepreneur) who claimed female circumcision is xaraam and then in private told a lady to go to Egypt where he had contacts to be cut.

Bring us the sheikhs/culuma who were careful to say things; culumadii sharafta leh oo xishoon jirtey not this lying machines who engage in religious entrepreneurship to get laid/enrich their pockets.

Wahabism is a euphemism used by ignorant Muslims as a means to blame all their problems on a certaint belief. I suggest you read the many beneficial books written by Sheikh Mohammed ibn Abdulwahhab. Wahabism does not exist. It's a myth created by the many individuals he angered when he spoke against the dangers of grave worshipping, veneration of saints....etc. Don't take my word for it, please go and research about him objectively.

As for Somali scholars, it's true that many of them simply don't respect Islam anymore. Being a 'Sheikh' has unfortunately become something trivial and people who are ignorant on the very tenets of Islam have started to proclaim themselves as scholars just to advancd their social standings. I agree with you on this matter. But it has nothing to do with 'Wahabism'. Additionally, this phenomenon also affects all Muslim communities.

You share my sentiments. Wahhabism is nonsense. It is arab culture. Don't defend nonsense. Islam is more than wahabism (arabic culture)

[zidane88]

All Wahabi Somali Sheikhs should follow suit, the destination ought to be Saudi-Arabia.. their beloved Wahabi Masters.

[waayeel101]

Gaaladi oo dhan aya isku habar wacday on this topic. And feminist lol.

If they deport the sheikh, we should deport all gaalo-raac and ppl against polygamy. Lol

[gegiroor]

Gaaladi oo dhan aya isku habar wacday on this topic. And feminist lol.

If they deport the sheikh, we should deport all gaalo-raac and ppl against polygamy. Lol

You hit the knail on the head, bro. They have no confidence in their sh-t beliefs, so here they are attacking Islam while disguising their hate as 'wahabi' this, 'wahabi' that. Something burns these people inside when they hear an Islamic scholar. They hope we become a society that does not have Islamic scholars, so the garbage beliefs that these degenerates embraced can spread among us.

Audubillah, we take shelter in Allah that we never find ourselves in a situation where we don't have Islamic scholars.

Additionally, there is no mention of Sheikh Mohamed Idiris' wives complaining in that report, so the charge that he needs to be in close proximity with his wives and children does not hold water. He travels to overseas so that he can be with his other wive and spread Islam as well.

People who know Sheikh Mohamed Idiris very well remembers him as of one the was the first sheikhs who warned the Somali society about the dangers of extremism, and the culture of easily shedding the blood of Somali Muslims in the name of declaring them apostates. That call was directly targeted at the actions of the extremist groups in Somalia.

Inasha'Allah , he will find a refuge in a Muslim nation that allows him to live and carry out his religious duty. Amen.

Thanks bro Waayeel.

[zidane88]

Gegi, let us not muddy the topic. We,Somalis had Scholars proud of their culture and tradition before the Wahabi sect found its way In Somalia.
We had role-model Scholars far from seef la boodnimo iyo duunyo jacayl. Look around today what we are calling Scholars!. I remember an occasion where Sheikh Cumar faaruuq(aun) silenced 30 wahabi scholars and shown them how little they know about Islam. Lying, cheating,and fraud were not known signs of Real old Scholars. We have seen Halalising hyena, spreading lies about HIV, Charity Punters on TV. tell me whether we had this before? It is not that I hate our religion, it is this fraud sect.

[jamal9]

maybe the sheikh should have said the other woman is his girl-friend instead of "religious wife".

[gegiroor]

Gegi, let us not muddy the topic. We,Somalis had Scholars proud of their culture and tradition before the Wahabi sect found its way In Somalia.
We had role-model Scholars far from seef la boodnimo iyo duunyo jacayl. Look around today what we are calling Scholars!. I remember an occasion where Sheikh Cumar faaruuq(aun) silenced 30 wahabi scholars and shown them how little they know about Islam. Lying, cheating,and fraud were not known signs of Real old Scholars. We have seen Halalising hyena, spreading lies about HIV, Charity Punters on TV. tell me whether we had this before? It is not that I hate our religion, it is this fraud sect.

Your charges clearly show that you have no understanding on the topics that you're embedding yourselves in. AHUN Sheikh Omar Faaruuq was an Islamic scholar who studied in Islamic University in Medina, Saudi, Arabia and graduated from it in 1979.. He was a learned Islamic scholar, and he and Shiekh Mohammed Idiris were close associates.

Besides, do you realize Al-Wahhab is one of the names of Allah? As a Muslim, how are you comfortable in tossing around the name of Allah the way you're doing it?

You should also know the agenda of the people who attack the Islamic scholars. And as a Muslim, you shouldn't find yourself to be part of it. Just a brotherly advice!

[grandpakhalif]

Good kick them all out, as Allah told us gaal will never be pleased with you until you leave your religion, serves him right after his complete fooraso to his now unapologetic govt.

[zidane88]

Gegiroor, I know these Atheist wannabes trying to undermine our Religion and using every excuse to insult the religion. My approach is different based on what i had witnessed in my lifetime. I don't know much about the concerned Sheikh and don't want fall fault on him,Allah forbid. I am talking about The so called- Scholars of nowadays and their use of the religion as a Political and financial tool.

[UlteriorMotive]

Wahabism is a euphemism used by ignorant Muslims as a means to blame all their problems on a certaint belief. I suggest you read the many beneficial books written by Sheikh Mohammed ibn Abdulwahhab. Wahabism does not exist. It's a myth created by the many individuals he angered when he spoke against the dangers of grave worshipping, veneration of saints....etc. Don't take my word for it, please go and research about him objectively.

As for Somali scholars, it's true that many of them simply don't respect Islam anymore. Being a 'Sheikh' has unfortunately become something trivial and people who are ignorant on the very tenets of Islam have started to proclaim themselves as scholars just to advancd their social standings. I agree with you on this matter. But it has nothing to do with 'Wahabism'. Additionally, this phenomenon also affects all Muslim communities.

I'm afraid I agree with Lamagoodle on this. Salafis are a huge danger to the Ummah. It attracts the religiously ignorant who are in need of simplistic messages e.g...that's bid'a...that's shirk etc. Many of them gain superficial knowledge in religious areas over which there are disagreements and speak with such authority and arrogance that they label other Muslims. They have reduced the deen to outward appearances like ankle length trousers...size of one's beard the many different characteristics which they believe makes them superior Muslims.

The saddest part is many of them do not last..hence the term Salafi burnout. The ideological purity they seek is simply not sustainable nor realistic.

Saudis spread it because it serves their interests and because of PetroDollars their ''scholars'' and books can shout the loudest. Prior to oil no one considered Najd as any place worthy of being taken seriously . It was never a place people went to for knowledge like North Africa...Iraq...Damascus. The place has always been populated with ignorant jaahils.

[Prlnce]

Prosecutors say he lied on his naturalization application by not mentioning that he had two wives and had travelled outside the United States.

Enough said deport his ass.

[gegiroor]

Gegiroor, I know these Atheist wannabes trying to undermine our Religion and using every excuse to insult the religion. My approach is different based on what i had witnessed in my lifetime. I don't know much about the concerned Sheikh and don't want fall fault on him,Allah forbid. I am talking about The so called- Scholars of nowadays and their use of the religion as a Political and financial tool.

I've seen many who claimed to be sheikhs while they have no understanding of Islamic jurisprudence. It is always better to deal with a learned Islamic scholar in your area irrespective of nationality. That way you eliminate ever dealing with others with dubious agenda.

[gegiroor]

You cannot be a good father and husband to all these wives & children littered all over the globe. At the very least you need geographical proximity. This 'wadaad' should know.

Cherine,

He had the two wives when he was in Saudi Arabia. But I think he had to come to USA initially for employment reasons.

He didn't hide his wives from them when he obtained the green card lottery and when he applied for naturalization. In both cases, they approved his application for permanent residency and later on the one for American citizenship.

There was a book published by some people who is part of the recent 'reformation' that inspired by the powers that be. Sheikh Mohammed Idiris is one of the people who very strongly came out against that book. Ever since he voiced his opposition, the 'men with the dark suits' were on his case. There is also another good sheikh in the same mosque whose passport was seized recently. The Ultima in that has gone thru so much hardship since 2007.

Just sharing with you sister. Bottom line there is more to the story than meets the eye. Since you're a Muslim, make dua for both of them and ask other Muslims to do the same.