Many Somalis nowadays are believing in Waaq

[WaaSamane]

They really do that?
Do you know that somalis used the word Waaq way after apopting Islam? At those days they used as God but In not surprised of its death if that Bs was involved.

Ps shirk haday galayaan xitaa offeringkooda xumaa waaba gun kkk.
Dried jaad n garlic mixed water kulahaa.

[balwarama]

the name of the town is 'Caabud-Waaq' as in command wich means in English Worship- Waaq! Somebody needs to investigate, why such a name was necessary in the firstplace!

[balwarama]

Bar-Waaqo or Bar-Waaq= spot of Waaq.
names like: Jid-waaq, Tagaal-Waaq, Cawd-Waaq and even Bar-waaq is found with in Ab-Same clan

[gegiroor]

Waaq was not the only pre-Islamic pagan god that Somali worshiped before Islam came to the Horn Africa. Even though some try to make Waaqism as a monotheistic faith, taking a deep look at the Somali language will show that it was just part of those pagan superstitions. Basically, due to contact or conquest by different empires, many of those pagan traditions were inherited in addition to the local pagan traditions.

Read here: http://sayidka.blogspot.com/2006/01/lan ... omali.html

Baal:

• Found very much in Somali vocabulary; was an ancient Cananite God.

• Somali words: Balanbaal, Uur-ku-baale, Baal, Baal-le, Baal-mar, Abaal, Dhan-baal, Ka-baal, Qa-baal, Xa-baal, Ya-baal.

Ebbe: Another name for GOD in Somali; and also the word for GOD in Aramaic.

• (i.e., Haddii Eebe idmo).

Hubaal:

• Hamitic God; it is found in Somali poetry and was also worshiped by Pagan Arabs as well). It is also name given to Somali girls. It was also one of the idols located in Mecca before Muslims liberated it. It was a god of fertility.

• (i.e., Hubaal weeye/waaye, waa la hubaa).

Wad:

• Hamitic God

Wad'Aad or Wadaad:

• attendant of WAD or priest

RA:

• Cushitic GOD.

Waaq:

• Cushitic GOD.
  Somali words: Ceel-Waaq, Caabud Waaq, Bar-waaqo

Now, here is how Allah (swt) warned us about this pagan God Baal in the Holy Qur'an:

"Do you call upon Ba'l and leave the best of creators" Qur'an (37:125)

You can see in the list of false deities, Baal and Wad were both included. Other deities that Somalis worshiped are in there but in different names since that map is referring to the false deities that were worshiped before the advent of Islam.


Concept map for Baal. Related concepts are highlighted in blue.

Wadd is referred to in verse (71:23) of chapter (71) sūrat nūḥ:

"And they conspired an immense conspiracy." (71:22)
"And said, 'Never leave your gods and never leave Wadd or Suwa' or Yaghuth and Ya'uq and Nasr." (71:23)
"And already they have misled many. And, [my Lord], do not increase the wrongdoers except in error." (71:24)
"Because of their sins they were drowned and put into the Fire, and they found not for themselves besides Allah [any] helpers." (71:25)

You noticed how in the above verse, it is also referring to to these false diety Yauq, in addition to Wadd, Suwa, Yaghuth and Nasr. I believe the false deity Yauq here is Waaq; however, we need to study how pagan Arabs referred to him and how the pagan horners (i.e., Somalis, Oramos, and others) referred to that diety. That would give us a definitive answer. Nevertheless, that was false deity as well.

http://corpus.quran.com/

Continued in next page....

[balwarama]

tnx Gegi!

[gegiroor]

Yw bro Balwarama.

[gegiroor]

Now we look at what we know about the false deity Hubaal. In this hadith - Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 375, narrated by Al-Bara, we can see Abu Sufyan referring to it:

..................Abu Sufyan ascended a high place and said, "Is Muhammad present amongst the people?" The Prophet said, "Do not answer him." Abu Sufyan said, "Is the son of Abu Quhafa present among the people?" The Prophet said, "Do not answer him." Abd Sufyan said, "Is the son of Al-Khattab amongst the people?" He then added, "All these people have been killed, for, were they alive, they would have replied." On that, 'Umar could not help saying, "You are a liar, O enemy of Allah! Allah has kept what will make you unhappy." Abu Safyan said, "Superior may be Hubal!" On that the Prophet said (to his companions), "Reply to him." They asked, "What may we say?" He said, "Say: Allah is More Elevated and More Majestic!" Abu Sufyan said, "We have (the idol) Al-'Uzza, whereas you have no 'Uzza!" The Prophet said (to his companions), "Reply to him." They said, "What may we say?" The Prophet said, "Say: Allah is our Helper and you have no helper." Abu Sufyan said, "(This) day compensates for our loss at Badr and (in) the battle (the victory) is always undecided and shared in turns by the belligerents. You will see some of your dead men mutilated, but neither did I urge this action, nor am I sorry for it."

Source: http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/Eng ... 9.375.html

[gegiroor]

Studying the belief systems of earlier cultures such as Akkadians, the Assyrians, the Babylonians and the Canaanites will clearly point to us that the much publicized false deity of Waaq and other false deities, worshiped in the Horn of Africa, were clearly inherited from those cultures.

A good start would be the Akkadian history since their language were the official language of the Mesopotamian empire, and Nowruz was adapted there. The Akkadian language also has some commonality with Somali language. They don't have the letter 'cayn' or in Somali 'c', and this is the main reason why when you find 'cayn' in Arabic in some of the false deities, while you won't find that in the Akkadian language. However, it has other commonalities with Somali. Spending sometime on those old cultures will tell us more about our past pagan beliefs.

Bottom line, the people, who are running with Waaq and present it as a local, monotheistic faith, have not done their homework. Don't let them fool you. That claim is far from the truth!

To conclude, for those who are Muslims and believe in Allah, please stay clear from this clear kufr. You're really sealing your faith by following and propagating these false deities.

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Macasalaama. I am done!!

[Raganimo]

Sxb you're reaching here!

You're finding words that sounds similar but have completely different meanings! Wad has nothing to do with the pagan God of the people of Noah AS! Hubaal is not the Qurayshi pagan God "hubal"!

This is why you can't take Somalis seriously. It's like saying the word "Hawiye" comes from Arabic "Haawiya".

It's a laughable claim.

[Raganimo]

Now you're linking indigenous mushrik beliefs to some foreign people . Based on what exactly? Some random words that neither share origin or meaning??

This is not how academic research works.

Don't become an Akkadian booty clapper

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Sxb you're reaching here!

You're finding words that sounds similar but have completely different meanings! Wad has nothing to do with the pagan God of the people of Noah AS! Hubaal is not the Qurayshi pagan God "hubal"!

This is why you can't take Somalis seriously. It's like saying the word "Hawiye" comes from Arabic "Haawiya".

It's a laughable claim.

[gegiroor]

You guys were running with how your Waaq was the name of ALLAH (swt) and it was a monotheistic faith. That was your argument. It is destroyed. Useless claim. It was a pagan tradition that was part of supersitious beliefs that had other false deities worshiped. Check the Somali researcher who did the study. Check the verses of the Noble Quran. You wont accept all of that because you simply want to hold onto this pagan crap called Waaqist.

What can I say? It is for all to see. I am outta here since some are getting emotional!

[GalliumerianSlayer]

We're Muslims mate.

[gegiroor]

A Muslim doesn't propagate pagan beliefs. Belief in Allah is sufficient for him or her. Think about it!

[Raganimo]

I'm not propagating pagan beliefs, acudubillah.. calm down sxb. I'm unapologetically Muslim and seek no pride in the paganism of our ancestors. My stomach hurts even thinking about some of the practices.

All I said was that you're trying to establish a link between our pagan ancestors and foreign civilisations which is quite flimsy at best. Somalis do this a lot in order to reject the idea that our ancestors were straight up mushrikeen. Instead we blame the Oromo, or some other foreign group for bringing their paganism to our lands.

It's not different from those who claim that we used to worship the Egyptian sun god Ra because the word for "sun" in Somali is "Qorrax" (Qor Rax). It's an outlandish claim IMO.