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Re: Somali spot degenerates

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gegiroor wrote:SNET is not ever better. Actually, it is worse. In this place, some of the Islamophobes are actually being protected by mods.
Yeah, they are both messed up. They both reinforce a negative image of us as a people.

Any neutral observer who visits these sites would see us as a bunch of wild, uneducated, un-cultured lowlifes.

What are some of the stereotypes that we have of new world blacks? That they are immoral, degrade women, ignorant, use foul language etc.. What do you see when you browse Somali forums? Immorality, ignorance, gutter language, lack of culture, no respect for women (in general).

It's not uncommon for even the most "respectful" women on spot to be degraded by some of the Somali "men". What's worse is that nobody checks them and they all see it as harmless banter.. This is the behavior of low class people. "Naayaa u got good dikk-sukking lips" one of them was told.. how is this any different from what some ghetto blacks would do?

This shit is the norm on Somali forums.. It's depressing because a lot of good could come from these forums.
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EvolSyawla wrote:I don't know why you guys flipping on Raganimo lol, that site is a cess-pool filled with the trash that were banned from here and you know it.

Same assholes who call women bitches, whores, etc...post videos of Somalis doing embarrassing things for all the world to see...Same guys on TC chewing and ugh Anyways.

I couldn't handle that site. Felt like I was in jane and finch. :lol:

I genuinely care about some of the more educated folks that moved from here to SS but ya know. :D Love you old Snet gang. :heart:
yes, I also noticed the degrading way numerous users speak about women, quite off putting, I've known non-Muslim men that are more respectful to women than them lot


regarding OP though, I don't think it's fair to call them all degenerates
Degrading women as a group is a way to promote social/cultural disintegration and degradation. We need our women if we're going to survive as a race. Look at what happened to the black American community. We can't tolerate this filth amongst our people and these losers need to be checked every time they step out of line. They are no better than the male-bashing feminist SJW's. They're two sides of the same coin.

Those people do not represent us yet they are allowed to dominate these forums that are supposed to be "ours". There's a silent majority of cultured, intelligent people who are not being heard because we would much rather promote the controversy, degradation etc because its more "fun".
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Guys, the problem with somali forums is actually the the ignorance and of lack of discipline of the posters. It is not only forums but everything we touch. I am very embarrassed to take non-somalis to Somali restaurants. Even our mosques are sub-standard. Why? Because we are inherently nomadic to the bone. A few years back I read a newspaper article discouraging ppl form visiting America's largest mall on Eid time because of stuff they said about Somalis which I don't want to repeat here.

A good example is right here. This forums is categorized with many categories and sub-categories while you dump every possible topic onto the general forums. If you are into Somali poetry, you'd better serve online community by posting your passion on the poetry section. Instead, you dump it here on the general. It may get some attention a a day or two it will forever be buried in a wrong forum.

Instead of blaming others, I think everyone should understand how to use online forums effectively. The other thing is that if you don't like how things are, come up with a solution and engage with moderators and admins.

The otherthing is that you are advertising somali porn without knowing it. A lot of folks would't mind peeking @ somali girls doing that stuff and you are telling them where to find it :mrgreen:
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waryaa wrote:Guys, the problem with somali forums is actually the the ignorance and of lack of discipline of the posters. It is not only forums but everything we touch. I am very embarrassed to take non-somalis to Somali restaurants. Even our mosques are sub-standard. Why? Because we are inherently nomadic to the bone. A few years back I read a newspaper article discouraging ppl form visiting America's largest mall on Eid time because of stuff they said about Somalis which I don't want to repeat here.
I've taken many colleagues, non-somali friends, professors, teachers to Somali restaurants.
Where do you reside in ?
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Waryaa, I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing that you said has anything to do with what this thread is about.
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waryaa wrote:Guys, the problem with somali forums is actually the the ignorance and of lack of discipline of the posters. It is not only forums but everything we touch. I am very embarrassed to take non-somalis to Somali restaurants. Even our mosques are sub-standard. Why? Because we are inherently nomadic to the bone. A few years back I read a newspaper article discouraging ppl form visiting America's largest mall on Eid time because of stuff they said about Somalis which I don't want to repeat here.

A good example is right here. This forums is categorized with many categories and sub-categories while you dump every possible topic onto the general forums. If you are into Somali poetry, you'd better serve online community by posting your passion on the poetry section. Instead, you dump it here on the general. It may get some attention a a day or two it will forever be buried in a wrong forum.

Instead of blaming others, I think everyone should understand how to use online forums effectively. The other thing is that if you don't like how things are, come up with a solution and engage with moderators and admins.

The otherthing is that you are advertising somali porn without knowing it. A lot of folks would't mind peeking @ somali girls doing that stuff and you are telling them where to find it :mrgreen:

Those are some good points. Here are a few personal ones from me.


I wish I had started out as a normal person here instead of a parody of a modern day Somali Hitler. I saw a Night at the Museum. Normal accounts and people having conversations and then boom out of nowhere a raging zoo of historical figures (usually Somali warlords and Somali Genghis Khans). The chaotic zoo looked more appealing and entertaining.

(Side note: I thought I could test run getting rid of tribalism with a nationalist dictator. It worked in some ways but it failed in other many ways.)

I wish everybody could have normal accounts and order each other pizza but you need a trusting healthy community for that. Trust can't survive in chaotic environments, not online or irl. Maybe the private groups are different? IDK.

The goal should be to able to order a pizza etc. for someone and that person can provide their address without having to worry about horrible shit happening.

Gift giving makes communities and relationships stronger more than most people realize.

This would be my advice to the Somalispot folks as well. They aren't worse.
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Trying to build an ideal image of a population that is just not there. People become a product of their environment .
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waryaa wrote:Guys, the problem with somali forums is actually the the ignorance and of lack of discipline of the posters. It is not only forums but everything we touch. I am very embarrassed to take non-somalis to Somali restaurants. Even our mosques are sub-standard. Why? Because we are inherently nomadic to the bone. A few years back I read a newspaper article discouraging ppl form visiting America's largest mall on Eid time because of stuff they said about Somalis which I don't want to repeat here.

A good example is right here. This forums is categorized with many categories and sub-categories while you dump every possible topic onto the general forums. If you are into Somali poetry, you'd better serve online community by posting your passion on the poetry section. Instead, you dump it here on the general. It may get some attention a a day or two it will forever be buried in a wrong forum.

Instead of blaming others, I think everyone should understand how to use online forums effectively. The other thing is that if you don't like how things are, come up with a solution and engage with moderators and admins.

The otherthing is that you are advertising somali porn without knowing it. A lot of folks would't mind peeking @ somali girls doing that stuff and you are telling them where to find it :mrgreen:
Look at you trying to divert the blame. ''Instead of blaming kulaha'' then you proceed to toss the blame to others. Nomadism makes us uncvilized? Really? i dont entertain romantics but even i am not too dumb to see how nonsensical that sounds.

Every problem we have in our community cannot be scapegoated with qabil and nomadism. I mean wtf where is the correlation?

If you dont have rules and regulations, standards. Also mods & admins that actively enforce them. Trolls will flood the forums and people will do an say whatever. The job of disciplinary is you the admins and mods.

Its as stupid as expecting people to abide by the law when there is no one to enforce them or better yet no rules or ethics to keep them disciplined.

Other forums have figured it out and taken steps to prevent this. Somalis on the web are no different than other groups of people in that regard believe me. The difference is that other sites do not cater to their degenerates and trolls.

Look at http://www.SomaliaOnline.com , do you see this kinds of behavior on display over there? Dont even try and pin the blame on the posters or Somali culture. Put the blame on the systemic problems on this website and learn to be humble enough to accept criticism so you guys can improve things.

The posters here are a reflection of this sites standards nothing more.
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Re: Somali spot degenerates

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What is the common denominator here ? Identity . How do you expect people to behave a certain way just because they have the same ethnicity ?
What is somali culture ? it is a nomadic culture based on a strong decentralized grouping yet overwhelmingly unaffected by outsiders except for Islam . When people grow up in a culture , they will consider that culture to be the norm . Now we have people whose parents are from a certain culture but grow up in a different culture and for reasons of their own reconstruct an idealized image of their parents culture in opposition to the one that surrounds them . That's NOT gonna work !
What we need is adhere to and promote universal principles such as kindness , politeness , generosity , understanding , compassion , moral strength ,noble conduct and ENFORCE those principles , that's how civilized people behave , which a good number of somalis are not, why deny it

Hypocrisy , vengefulness , intellectual dishonesty , tribalism that's how the savage behaves , no matter how good he tries to perfect the language he speaks . We have those in abundance unfortunately. We should strive to make people BETTER not "more Somali" , whatever that means
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LegendarySS4 wrote: I've taken many colleagues, non-somali friends, professors, teachers to Somali restaurants.
Where do you reside in ?
I dont even see the point in what he is talking about, how does this correlate. Where i live, gaalos love the local Somali restaurants even more than us . When i visited Cali last summer its was the same thing overthere in the states.

It really depends on what Somali restaurants you take them to , not all are the same. I admit there are some pretty bad ones out there from ajanabi standards but those types of makhayadss are not catered to Non-Somalis only to Somalis themselves.

You take them to Somali restaurants catered to Non-Somalis & Somalis alike. We are very loud in our manners and that is the only beef people have with and that is relative to a specific culture.

But that isn't a sign of us being unruly or uncivilized in any regards, which is what he was eluding to.
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Re: Somali spot degenerates

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SahanGalbeed wrote:Trying to build an ideal image of a population that is just not there. People become a product of their environment .
Do you think that the trolls on spot and somnet are an accurate representation of us as a group? Do you think that the average Somali youth refers to somali women as bitches and whores, or that the average Somali girl posts pornographic snaps? Do you think that 50% of our people are atheists (which is the case for these trolls)? I don't. Yet if you visit these forums regularly, that is the impression that you walk away with. To me that's very problematic.

There's this degenerate, lowlife ghetto culture that's being promoted. I'm calling people towards our traditional values. Even the atheist nationalists should not have a problem with this since even our cultural values have higher standards than what is on display at these forums.

It's not about creating an ideal image. Asking people to stop wallowing in the dirt and bringing every little filthy thing that goes on in the fringes of our community to light is not "idealism".

Billaahi calaykum all I'm asking is that we stop using vulgar language. That we stop shaming our own people since even the worst amongst them are still our people and their dumb actions will reflect poorly on us as a group. To stop embracing the worst aspects of US ghetto culture. I'm not asking you to travel to the moon and back!

If anyone has a problem with this, I would simply love to know why. If you think that I'm overreacting, explain to me why you think so.
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SahanGalbeed wrote:What is the common denominator here ? Identity . How do you expect people to behave a certain way just because they have the same ethnicity ?
What is somali culture ? it is a nomadic culture based on a strong decentralized grouping yet overwhelmingly unaffected by outsiders except for Islam . When people grow up in a culture , they will consider that culture to be the norm . Now we have people whose parents are from a certain culture but grow up in a different culture and for reasons of their own reconstruct an idealized image of their parents culture in opposition to the one that surrounds them . That's NOT gonna work !
What we need is adhere to and promote universal principles such as kindness , politeness , generosity , understanding , compassion , moral strength ,noble conduct and ENFORCE those principles , that's how civilized people behave , which a good number of somalis are not, why deny it

Hypocrisy , vengefulness , intellectual dishonesty , tribalism that's how the savage behaves , no matter how good he tries to perfect the language he speaks . We have those in abundance unfortunately. We should strive to make people BETTER not "more Somali" , whatever that means


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SahanGalbeed wrote:What is the common denominator here ? Identity . How do you expect people to behave a certain way just because they have the same ethnicity ?
What is somali culture ? it is a nomadic culture based on a strong decentralized grouping yet overwhelmingly unaffected by outsiders except for Islam . When people grow up in a culture , they will consider that culture to be the norm . Now we have people whose parents are from a certain culture but grow up in a different culture and for reasons of their own reconstruct an idealized image of their parents culture in opposition to the one that surrounds them . That's NOT gonna work !
What we need is adhere to and promote universal principles such as kindness , politeness , generosity , understanding , compassion , moral strength ,noble conduct and ENFORCE those principles , that's how civilized people behave , which a good number of somalis are not, why deny it

Hypocrisy , vengefulness , intellectual dishonesty , tribalism that's how the savage behaves , no matter how good he tries to perfect the language he speaks . We have those in abundance unfortunately. We should strive to make people BETTER not "more Somali" , whatever that means
^ take your self-hate elsewhere. You're using colonial rhetoric (savage vs civilised) and are being overly simplistic in your "analysis".

Leave this discussion for those of us who happen to still have our sense of dignity intact. If you view Somali people as inherently inferior and "savage", then there's no point in even entertaining your BS. Leave this for those of us who actually happen to care for our people. People like you are just dead-weight.

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SahanGalbeed wrote:What is the common denominator here ? Identity . How do you expect people to behave a certain way just because they have the same ethnicity ?
What is somali culture ? it is a nomadic culture based on a strong decentralized grouping yet overwhelmingly unaffected by outsiders except for Islam .
First of all you are expected to behave a certain way due to a large degree of comformity, every non-western ethinc group has that including Somalis

Somali culture is communal, as oppose to "individualistic and this one difference creates entirely different paradigm and behaviors. (Somali culture would never produce Nihilism or Existentialist though for example) This communal root spills over to inform notions of "human rites" and ethics.

Secondly Somalis have been influenced by outsiders since ancient time. What are you talking about , we dont live in an island of isolation.

Islam is part of our culture and intrinsic part of our value formation.
When people grow up in a culture , they will consider that culture to be the norm . Now we have people whose parents are from a certain culture but grow up in a different culture and for reasons of their own reconstruct an idealized image of their parents culture in opposition to the one that surrounds them . That's NOT gonna work !
Yes this is going to work. You do this by teaching people their language and rejecting assimilation. Many communities have been successful at this, so this is very possible.

What we need is adhere to and promote universal principles such as kindness , politeness , generosity , understanding , compassion , moral strength ,noble conduct and ENFORCE those principles , that's how civilized people behave , which a good number of somalis are not, why deny it
ironically we have all of those virtues in our culture and among other such as hospitality, empathy, courtesy, and respect.

We can extend it forward, with concepts such as ''nabad'', ''xiishood'', ''wanaag'' ''Sharaf'' etc virtues like harmony & peace, honor & dignity.

We do have our own supergo of cultural ideal in which we enforce.

But on the lopside we Somalis are humans and as humans we are not above being petty. That doesnt mean we promote it or conceptualize it or are defined by these vices.
Hypocrisy , vengefulness , intellectual dishonesty , tribalism that's how the savage behaves , no matter how good he tries to perfect the language he speaks . We have those in abundance unfortunately. We should strive to make people BETTER not "more Somali" , whatever that means
This is why this site is a bonefied trash look at this guy negatively stereotyping his own kind. Look at all of the self deprecating remarks. Amazing!!

Where is this tribalism honestly. I have interacted with soo many somalis in my life, all i have gotten is love & mutual compassion from my bretherens and sisters. No ones asks me my clan or shows prejudice of it in that regard. The only place ive seen this kind of hate & behavior is on forums like this one spewed by the likes of you.

Most of what i have witnessed is the moral , community and family oriented nature of my people. I don't say this out of pure fanatical romanticism but out of my life experiences. Yes this is what defines Somali not that other rubbish you said.

We do need to make people more Somali. No one gets anywhere by rejecting who they are, nor can they be involved in evolving it either.

To function. A man must know himself to know the world. He must know where he stands. A deculturalized community can never strive to better themselves. A deculturalized community takes one way ticket to degeneracy and obsoletness.
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^ ishaad ka tuurtay adeer. Wallahi you nailed it! :up:
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