does love not exist in somaali culture?

[Revolutionary]

My uncle didn't see my Habiyar for nearly 2 years. When they saw each other at the airport, I cringed at what I saw. You'd think they'd kiss, right? Not on the mouth obviously but the cheeks or maybe even a hug, right?

But no. It's worse.






They shook hands.






Unfuckingbelieveable.

Kissing in lips/saliva and hugging out of excitement in public is Western culture.

[theyuusuf143]

Annaga waxa noo dhaqana habeenka ugu horaysa arooska horta waxa lagu aqal galaa guri ay leeyihiin tolka ninku ama yagu ay maamulaan. naagtu waa inay difaaca xidhataa habeenkaas oo ay lugaha isku marataa (Si dhilllo gamca gamcaynta hore u taqaanay loo moodin) ninkuna waa inuu xoog kaga qaadaa haduu nin raga yahay. Illeen cadaalad darrada Somalida waad taqaaniine hadiiba ninkaasi naagtiisa ka adkaan waayo, debeda waxa u tagaan afar jaafaajugle oo ilmaadeeradiisa kuwaas oo situation ka dhegta kala socda, oo u diyaarsan inay naagta ninka u qabqabtaan haday ka xoogroonato. Ma naagtaasi aflabadii qaylo ka ka wadhay, mise aamustay, haday aamusto oo juuq odhan waydo means naagtu weli ma wasna, waxay noqonaysaa in tolku rescue team u diro inankooda si aan meeshaas reer daahir ugu ceeboobin oo loo odhan Gabadh xunoo reer hebelay wasan kari waayeen nimankii dhammaa ee laandheeraha sheeganayey.

Horta guurka noocaasa adiga caqligaaga ma kula tahay jacayl baa ku jira kkk.

Hayaay !!!! ilen somalidii hore knew about rough sex

War where do I sign up

Sign up through me, I can lure labo reer miyi ah oo isguursanaya to your own door. just give them a room Anna nuskiile faraska ah iyo litir dry gin ah meel ii saar. you will be surprised dagaalka meeshaas ka dhaca.

[zidane88]

Ninbaa naagtiisa ku garaacay markey magaciisa ugu yeedhay isagoo rag la jooga, markii ey weydiisay waxay ku muteysatey ayuu yidhi: naa hadaad magaceyga iigu yeedho sow inaan is jecelnahay leyna moodi maayo. waa kaa jeceyl macinhiisa iyo dadkii hore.

ma agdeer bo aha?

my cousin told me recently, why i call my parents "mama habebty" " baba habeby". imagine they even have problem to show love and effection to parents!! iskaba daa husbad to wife/husbad.

Lol, Hyper iska fahan. waa in qofta loogu yeedhaa ama ilmaha hooyadood, ilmaha aabohood.

[InaSamaale]

Annaga waxa noo dhaqana habeenka ugu horaysa arooska horta waxa lagu aqal galaa guri ay leeyihiin tolka ninku ama yagu ay maamulaan. naagtu waa inay difaaca xidhataa habeenkaas oo ay lugaha isku marataa (Si dhilllo gamca gamcaynta hore u taqaanay loo moodin) ninkuna waa inuu xoog kaga qaadaa haduu nin raga yahay. Illeen cadaalad darrada Somalida waad taqaaniine hadiiba ninkaasi naagtiisa ka adkaan waayo, debeda waxa u tagaan afar jaafaajugle oo ilmaadeeradiisa kuwaas oo situation ka dhegta kala socda, oo u diyaarsan inay naagta ninka u qabqabtaan haday ka xoogroonato. Ma naagtaasi aflabadii qaylo ka ka wadhay, mise aamustay, haday aamusto oo juuq odhan waydo means naagtu weli ma wasna, waxay noqonaysaa in tolku rescue team u diro inankooda si aan meeshaas reer daahir ugu ceeboobin oo loo odhan Gabadh xunoo reer hebelay wasan kari waayeen nimankii dhammaa ee laandheeraha sheeganayey.

Horta guurka noocaasa adiga caqligaaga ma kula tahay jacayl baa ku jira kkk.

SubhanAllah this is some real jaahiliya stuff. Waxaan weli miyaa la sameeyaa?

[YummyMummy]

Annaga waxa noo dhaqana habeenka ugu horaysa arooska horta waxa lagu aqal galaa guri ay leeyihiin tolka ninku ama yagu ay maamulaan. naagtu waa inay difaaca xidhataa habeenkaas oo ay lugaha isku marataa (Si dhilllo gamca gamcaynta hore u taqaanay loo moodin) ninkuna waa inuu xoog kaga qaadaa haduu nin raga yahay. Illeen cadaalad darrada Somalida waad taqaaniine hadiiba ninkaasi naagtiisa ka adkaan waayo, debeda waxa u tagaan afar jaafaajugle oo ilmaadeeradiisa kuwaas oo situation ka dhegta kala socda, oo u diyaarsan inay naagta ninka u qabqabtaan haday ka xoogroonato. Ma naagtaasi aflabadii qaylo ka ka wadhay, mise aamustay, haday aamusto oo juuq odhan waydo means naagtu weli ma wasna, waxay noqonaysaa in tolku rescue team u diro inankooda si aan meeshaas reer daahir ugu ceeboobin oo loo odhan Gabadh xunoo reer hebelay wasan kari waayeen nimankii dhammaa ee laandheeraha sheeganayey.

Horta guurka noocaasa adiga caqligaaga ma kula tahay jacayl baa ku jira kkk.

SubhanAllah this is some real jaahiliya stuff. Waxaan weli miyaa la sameeyaa?

Maya walaashay, Yusuf wuu ka badbadinayaa bay ila tahay, definitely not dhaqan asal ah.

[COOL-MAN]

ina samaale Waa maskiin

[InaSamaale]

Yummy, lool oh okay. That's a relief. I thought it may have been pre-Islamic tradition :/


@Cool, lol gullible moment. Should have read the posters name.

[InaSamaale]

Yes, it does. You cannot imagine the number of poems composed on love bugs, longings, lust and much more. SOmali love is expressed differently- subtle; idioms, metaphorical ...


As the love Guri of these boards, I have written on the subject; check some of my posts.

Fair point Lam, about being expressed differently (for instance public displays of affection isn't our thing)


I always thought that was the case, but when you see a wife running after 6 + kids on her own, cooking/cleaning, being responsible for all aspects of their life and the husband not having the compassion to help her, how can that be a home built on love?


Maybe, the older generation were good at the initial wooing of women, the few Somali songs I know only glamourise the infatuation stage of a relationship and never anything deeper.

[Lamagoodle]

Yes, it does. You cannot imagine the number of poems composed on love bugs, longings, lust and much more. SOmali love is expressed differently- subtle; idioms, metaphorical ...


As the love Guri of these boards, I have written on the subject; check some of my posts.

Fair point Lam, about being expressed differently (for instance public displays of affection isn't our thing)


I always thought that was the case, but when you see a wife running after 6 + kids on her own, cooking/cleaning, being responsible for all aspects of their life and the husband not having the compassion to help her, how can that be a home built on love?


Maybe, the older generation were good at the initial wooing of women, the few Somali songs I know only glamourise the infatuation stage of a relationship and never anything deeper.

Inasamaale,
That we somalis men are bad at helping our wives should be seen in the light of "learning" and the historical context. We are creatures of our history. BTW; in most of the cases, the somali woman knows that history dictates our gender roles. They view household activities as a monopoly. Even if the somali tries his best to clean, cook and do other activities, the wife will always think that these activities lie within her domain.

We share this with a large majority of other societies.

I don't think the above has anything to do with love by the way.

Back in Somalia, the man was the provider. Paid work for Women came to large towns in the 1970s . Even here the somali wife had a herd of female family members and maids to help them. Most of the older generation of somalis were born (or their parents were born) in rural areas.

As we get urbanised, as we build diasporas in the west, our institutions are redefined, challenged and questions. But we are still creatures of our history and it will take generations to change this. I would argue that many women do not want a revolution to happen in this area.

Maybe, the older generation were good at the initial wooing of women, the few Somali songs I know only glamourise the infatuation stage of a relationship and never anything deeper.

Isn't this a global phenomenon?

I have some difficulties in how "love" is defined here - the tone at least-. It seems that some members equate "love" with public display of affection. Love is a feeling and expressing it could take several dimensions. You do not need to hold hands in public nor do you need to kiss/hug in public. Love is good when it is expressed internally.

And more importantly, is there a global yardstick to measure love? I don't think so.

Somali songs are filled with lyrics on love. Most of these are on the theme of lust/longing, a precursor to love. Yes, the focus is on the journey.. Kadib waa sheeko kale

[zulaika]

Of course it exists.. I know Somali couples who truly love each other, it's a beautiful thing.

Personally I did not ask or demanded love like in the movies when I got married...It wasn't a deal breaker if he was not "romantic".... I had other expectations of a man that were super important... The one who fulfilled all of those is also very loving as it turns out. I'm glad it worked out like that

Still I'm not the type of female that yearns for roses and romance..