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I Honestly believe more than ever anyone person of any tribe can become President of Somalia now as long as they have enough Political Will, Cash and influence. Obviously the incumbent is favored as in all other countries because they are already in the system. Realistically i think the final three will be Hassan Sheikh, Sheikh Sharif and Jibriil Ibrahim unless Omar Abdirashid runs which would give him a good chance also.
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Geeljire252 wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:habargedir power has been broken long time ago they stand no chance not one percentage the next president is either majeerteen or abgaal.
You have no say since you declared yourself "independent from Somalis".
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i have no real interest who rules somalia as long as the 3 pillars remain in somalia amisom, alshabaab and clan federalism. but because i have no interest in somalia really from a political point of view i am objective abgaal and majeerteen have the biggest say in somalia majeeerteen have the biggest state and resources to fund their campaign they have allot of influance the pm is most of the time from the mj clan puntland. and ofcouese abgaal have Mogadishu on lock and have allot of funds to their desposal and can use it to further their interest hg eeeley marexaan stand no chance for they have nothing that backs them. they individual candidates. by the way we did not declare our independence from Somalis but from walanweyns Somalis are more than walanweyns reer nfd reer killil somali reeer jaabuuti so dont use that term on us.
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Re: Candidates for Somalia presidency 2016

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OneSomaliaHussein wrote:
sahal80 wrote:Game has changed!

If a DIR speaker was elected except HAG rest will vote for a different candidate than those!
Sahal doesn't the many conversations in threads about the presidency prove that the president of Somalia is not a weak position like in either ethiopia or italy for example

two reason why the president can be politically strong

1. the president is allowed to be a member of a political party and can even be the leader of the party
2. if his party can have a majority of seats in the parliamentary lower house then he can choose any citizen to be Prime Minister
naturally the pm is weaker bc hes subject to motion of confidence but finally it dependence on your alliances for example gaas was stronger than Sharif bc faroole was backing him

Faroole was dealing with galmudug and qaybdiid to keep away from xamar, used himanheeb against galmudug specially hobyo port project, picked gedo ahlusunna-aw libaax- over dhiusamareeb and then mugadishu ahlusunna in the road map conference in turkey

Aw libaax was made by faroole thats why he was part of kismayo conference

So sheekh Sharif had no window to breath from. One of my clan female lawyers told us in london how she resisted writing in the constitution mogadishu status as capital will be determined after! mogadishu is not a capital per constitution! Anways she got a call from sharif himself telling her to do it!!
She's the woman who called Sharif hassan as Sharif sakiin in the elders conference in Turkey thinking that was his name!

Puntland had a plan of moving the capital to garowe!

As for yuulka, ahmed madobe was against him but he caused big damage to garguurte . No mushaar since 2014!

CCC cares only himself and avoides clashes

Anyways garguurte is nowadays so pro-PL as hes too desprite. Dadkaan dont care wich person... if they see you your hated by your people they will welcome you!
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sharif has zero chance,the guy was sh.dalxiis using state meagre resources to travel endlessly,he was a diaspora president,no change from him.only poweful candidate with 90% chance is hassan sheekh ,an astute president,but i want him to send these fufus to their homeland.a new president with no experience,no political clout,no connection,or worse,some diaspora president with foreign passport who doesnt give sht about the country will spend the 4 years as a learner of politics no change at all in four years,culusow has the experience,political clout and will to move us further.his dependence on fufus yaab badana is his failure-! abgaal president ooo xamar lagu waardiyeeynaayo is unacceptable.pay the money of the soilders extravagently to safeguard the institutions and send these fkers home.10 years i dont know what is coming of them anyway.
abgaal bankrolls 85% of the gov budget,if the president is not ours or our puppet,we will transfer that money into our pockets,good luck running bankrupt state.
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Khalid Ali wrote:
i have no real interest who rules somalia as long as the 3 pillars remain in somalia amisom, alshabaab and clan federalism.
:wtf: keep your hate to yourself

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Re: Candidates for Somalia presidency 2016

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no hard feelings saaxib its just politivs businesses as usual
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Former garguurte chief of staff kamal gutale has been going back and forth between nairobi and addis ababa campaigning for abdishakur

Ethiopias man ahmed abdiqasim who's based in Nairobi is part of this campaign

More khawanah but i welcome of their division!
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What Sahal is writing is also what I am hearing, it was one of the things HSM was warned about a lot, like most HAG man he was so fixated on his party that he lost absolute track that ultimately in Somali politic's Qabiil reigns supreme.

His nepotism has surpasses Afweyne and done great damage, so much so he has turned HAG, he had two deadly cards which was HAG and DIR, then the untrustworthy snake wild card Shariif Sakiin whom goes with the winners, he destroyed the first two with his grotesque nepotism.

AbdiKarim Guled as I type this now is in a meeting with Sh Shariif and their crew, I am not a fan of him, but he realised the ramifications of HSM politics, the Turks and Qatar are backing Shariif crew were as Kenya UAE are backing CC whom will appoint Shariif Sakiin as PM and DIR will take the speaker post leaving out HAG entirely.

HSM is now desperately trying to get Odawaa to take over Galmudug (with excuse Abdi Karim is not healthy) and promised Ceyr Interior post, these are desperate moves that will not do anything for him, he lost the DIR vote, lost around half the HAG vote, all Darood and the snake Sakiin as he did to Shariif will switch the D&M vote to whomever makes the best offer and is most likely to win which is CC camp at the moment, whom promised him the PM post.

That's the politic's as it stands right now, with UAE and Kenya firmly behind them, in the past those camps couldn't compete due to the $$$, but today things are different, unless Shariif camp engineers a great coup for the ages (which I doubt since he failed to get reelected), they will walk away with everything
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sahal80 wrote: Time the mighty neutral dir lead somalia so we can have another djibouti. As reer hiiran we ain't worried about dir we made up with our local culimo respecting prez geele. Thats how true somalis act!
Its that time Sahal :up:
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SulemanHomie wrote:Why didn't they show fadumo dayib? I want farole to win since he has done puntland good.
Faroole stands no chance. :mrgreen:
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smooth wrote:What Sahal is writing is also what I am hearing, it was one of the things HSM was warned about a lot, like most HAG man he was so fixated on his party that he lost absolute track that ultimately in Somali politic's Qabiil reigns supreme.

His nepotism has surpasses Afweyne and done great damage, so much so he has turned HAG, he had two deadly cards which was HAG and DIR, then the untrustworthy snake wild card Shariif Sakiin whom goes with the winners, he destroyed the first two with his grotesque nepotism.

AbdiKarim Guled as I type this now is in a meeting with Sh Shariif and their crew, I am not a fan of him, but he realised the ramifications of HSM politics, the Turks and Qatar are backing Shariif crew were as Kenya UAE are backing CC whom will appoint Shariif Sakiin as PM and DIR will take the speaker post leaving out HAG entirely.

HSM is now desperately trying to get Odawaa to take over Galmudug (with excuse Abdi Karim is not healthy) and promised Ceyr Interior post, these are desperate moves that will not do anything for him, he lost the DIR vote, lost around half the HAG vote, all Darood and the snake Sakiin as he did to Shariif will switch the D&M vote to whomever makes the best offer and is most likely to win which is CC camp at the moment, whom promised him the PM post.

That's the politic's as it stands right now, with UAE and Kenya firmly behind them, in the past those camps couldn't compete due to the $$$, but today things are different, unless Shariif camp engineers a great coup for the ages (which I doubt since he failed to get reelected), they will walk away with everything
ustaad smooth, great info about odowaa-garguurte, sharif-guleed!

I always said only Sharif camp can save HAG this bc djibouti is behind him, faroole to stopp CCC plus turkey and his not bad reputation among HAG

Garguurte and Guleed had problems since the latter partaked HG opposition meetings in nairobi, guleed excuse was that he has to keep low profile until elections r over and thats its a mere tactics but garguurte wants him to campgain for him publucally and secure the HG seats

Casho xaaji is in alliance with ala sheekh and will defeat odowaa as saleebaan bc she's using the women card. She recently said hawkeenka somaliyeed waa qorax aan laqarin karin!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 9423890247

Latest I heard is that abdishkur is the only HAG ethiopia is supporting him for this momement

The interesting part is that ahmed abdisalam and him had a meeting with our ugaas and there followed by a gathering support for hiiraan in guriceel (i got the video but don't wanna to hijack the thread)

This means anti-garguurte cayr-hawadle coalition

Garguurte has no sacad folks and you have fiqi and cabdinasir as two sacad cabdidates

Garguurte has been trying with mj to reach "a real power sharing" but since his visit to ileey, hes been trying with ogadeen promising this time xalane as a pm!

Walee nin dead qaadey xumbo cuksay!

Dir-D&M coalition will weaken HAG and they can put whoever they want in villa!
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Re: Candidates for Somalia presidency 2016

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analysis are just analysis,nothing more nothing less
2012 did any predict culusow winning?
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 2&start=45
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Re: Candidates for Somalia presidency 2016

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blood wrote:analysis are just analysis,nothing more nothing less
2012 did any predict culusow winning?
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 2&start=45
2012 politics r totally different than today. At that time al shabaab was controlling outside of banadir so internationally and locally moderate islamists were seen as the right alternative to improve the security

So two al islah wings had garguurte and badiyow, salafists aka ictisaam had cabdulqadir cosoble bc xamar is abgaal town

From where did they got their votes? if you count their HAG votes most of abgaal, murursade and saleebaan have voted for sharif. Garguurte got more hawadle votes than abgaal! he got 6 hawadle votes in the first round except godah and hanafi who was in the other islah wing

So don't tell me that it was their clans who elected them!

Today there is a regional admins who act like a local govts and pick their own federal mps and tell them who to vote or not to vote

Today there r many candidates who have Islamist background

Cabdinasir claims to be representing gurmad-ala sheekh-

Fiqi- daljir-aka sheekh

Murursade wing r backing farmaajo, ethiopian funds for abdishakour expected....al islax r much hated....ala sheekh still have reputation but they r divided

Second round all the people voted for garguurte to stop sharif who was leading the first round after he added 10 warlords

http://allsbc.com/natiijada-wareegii-ko ... oomaaliya/
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i hope another dude wins,our existing banadir state becomes federal state and say good bye to the dead failed somalia state,85% of banadir budget will be allocated to the locals,dowlada la sheegayo mesha ay budget ka keeneyso ayada taqaano.somalia is dead,that is why i personally dont gve sht about SL,PL.
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Re: Candidates for Somalia presidency 2016

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Any HAG president i will say sheekh shariif

Reasons; 1/he made relations with the western inistitutions during his study in there he even has western professors as advisers this time not somali advirsers lol

2/Neutral amisom-Uganda & djibiuti) backing him. Amisom ignored many candidates request to provide for them security including faroole who wants now to arrive with his own body guard also farmajo got ignnored by amisom

Uganda promised amisom protection just for sharif!

3/ has wide HAG acceptance

4/causes division in SAHAL camp like his deal with faroole


Caqabadihiisa: UAE/ethiopia/kenyan crew like Sharif hassan, CCC

Nevertheless the battle will be between these groups
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