200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook By Eric Dubay

[Ozaki]

From fragments we assume from the ancients,
We know that they mastered the mysteries of turtle piss. This ether that surrounds the multiverse.
The source of the myth of vimanas dates to the precursors of the vedic civilisation and even sumer and kmt and pwenet
.

Unlike you, I was very invested into this spinning ball earth heliocentric masonic myth, I have an entire room filled with books from everything since a young child and even an expensive telescope to show for it

The only difference between us Gurey is that I have a critical mind swayed by facts not false indoctrination's, I take it you also believe in Evolution since it comes from the same masonic Godless source.

If your man enough I will debate you on this issue as someone that regularly posts on the international FE forums, about this endlessly revolving, rotating, tilting, spinning, shooting through infinite space ball earth myth.

The whole myth is 150 years old developed by proven Freemason Copernicus, in that short time we went through the following phases regarding the shape of the earth, lets begin this debate about the supposed shape first, we went from

1) circle/ball shaped (Copernicus)
2) Spherical (Pre WW)
3) Spheroid (this what I was thought in school)
4) Oblate Spheroid (flattened at the poles, last decade & current accepted shape by the masonic run science community)
5) Pear shaped ( flattened by the poles, latest by Neil De Grasse Tyson leading Astrophysicist as of this year)


This is the image supposedly taking by Apollo Hoax mission to the Moon several decades ago (proven to be fake, you can see this in photoshop)


This is the infamous 2014 Blue Marble image supposedly captured by sattelites by Rob Simmons (MR blue Marble whom admits it's photoshopped)

source:http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=84214

source where he admits it's photoshopped
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/abo ... immon.html


Visual difference between points 2) and 3) for the laymen




My question to you here is very simple, as everything here contradicts even the official images put out by NASA and their open claims they are CGI images

1) Which of those 5 shapes do you rest your faith on, you sticking to oblate spheroid this decade which is currently accepted by the community or the latest pear shaped by the leading astrophysicist?

2) Blue Marble Nasa image (2014) and the supposed Appolo image (60's) contradict each other and the present accepted shape (oblate spheroid), all 3 cannot be right, either the moon mission was a hoax, the oblate spheroid accepted shape is wrong or Rob Simmons Blue Marble official Nasa image (which he supposedly gathered info from Satellites) is a hoax

So which is it? at least 2 of them have to be a hoax, which begs the question why should I even begin to believe in the rest? please do not divert from this "shape" topic, we will move on to the others gradually.

Is this photoshopped too?


Go back to the 4th century.

[grandpakhalif]

Its trur, I believe the earth is flat also its clear from the Quran. Check out the late Sheikh Ibn Baz fatwa on the issue. The Jews and Satanists have done plenty to convince you otherwise, such as the staged Moon landing. Do your research and you will reach the same conclusion, or continue to wallow in Satans mirage

[smooth]

Is this photoshopped too?


Go back to the 4th century.

Do not run away and debate like a man and stick to the moon topic and do not bounce around, the Photoshop statement come from MR blue marble himself, he stated so himself not me, I even provided the direct source from NASA straight from the horses mouth, rather then the link to the famous youtube video were he says so himself visually.

Your probably a paid shill looking at your posts, I am very familiar with them, now based on those images you posted of the moon phases (the actual images are Computer Generated images e.g. CGI) actually defeats your whole argument

A spherical or any of the other shapes it has recently changed to that I listed previously, it's impossible if it was any of those shapes that we only get to see one side of the moon all the time, NO MATTER were you are on the earth, you always see the same side.

I want you to free yourself from indoctrination and get yourself a spherical/spheroid shaped object move it to the end of the room and circulate and see if you see the same side all the time, it's impossible.

Now the flimsy explanation as I will safe you time googling is that magically the rotational period is exactly the same as the orbital period of the earth, if this is true we would never see the moon in daylight or see them both at the same time.

The Amatuer video @ 110.000 feat illustrates this perfectly, notice how the horizon always remains to your eye level, no curvature, this is a standard wide eye lense that used, not the fish eye lenses used in Go Pro camera's that give a concave representation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwimocU0IIc

[smooth]

Its trur, I believe the earth is flat also its clear from the Quran. Check out the late Sheikh Ibn Baz fatwa on the issue. The Jews and Satanists have done plenty to convince you otherwise, such as the staged Moon landing. Do your research and you will reach the same conclusion, or continue to wallow in Satans mirage

This is the order of the satanic demonic masonic myths starting with the least to the worst

1) 9/11 Hoax
2)Fake Apollo missions
3)Evolution
4)Heliocentric globe earth myth


That's how the progression here goes, most Muslims and even a lot of Non Muslims will believe in both 1/2, the Non Muslims drop for the rest, but the Muslim continues to believe that 3 is also false and demonic, but somehow they stop at 4 which is by far the greatest hoax ever perpetrated.

There is a reason why they have these ball earth spinning myth in schools, in every class room, at the start of every Hollywood movie, it's drilled in so bad, that I even saw Muslims and Christians leave their faith after I proved from both scriptures it's flat. They go to such great lengths using fish eye lenses (red bull jump)

The moment you free yourself of that last indoctrination, you truelly become free and everything else begins to make sense, your no longer part of a septillion of planets, a mere dust in space, shooting around at speeds you can't even comprehend and that you magically don't feel because of mythical gravity.

You begin to see just as all the scientist before these masonic Copernicus and Darwinist's spawns were given prominence by these establishment satanist believed the earth was flat just as you can see and observe, a geocentric marvel were all the stars, moon, sun revolve around us just as we can see and observe, you are essentially being taught not to trust your observations, senses and what you see but trust the establishment NASA demonic indoctrination, the same people that faked the moon landing.

The moment the indoctrinated particularly the atheist or agnostic masses realise we are no longer a insignificant spec of dust among a septillion other planets spinning in infinite space with no purpose, a cosmic accident, you will see the masses return to their creator, this is why this truth is being hidden from them and why the indoctrination is so powerful.

[grandpakhalif]

Smooth it is obvious we agree, they even say the moon itself is the result of a meteroid, how ridiculous.

Whats your opinion on the existence of dinosaurs, I personally dont have a definitive opinion

[smooth]

Smooth it is obvious we agree, they even say the moon itself is the result of a meteroid, how ridiculous.

Whats your opinion on the existence of dinosaurs, I personally dont have a definitive opinion

Another Darwinian hoax, Darwin magically prophesied about their existence in his book before any 'supposed' fossils were found, then bang magically 2 years later they began to appear and it's not ordinary people that found these fossils but palaeontologist from the same network and evolutionary biologists with the same vested interest. It's well known Darwin family were part of the freemasonic cult, this is fact.

Think about this for a moment, all the civilisation before, the Mayan's, the Sumerian's, the Egyptians, the Babylonian, the Persian's, Romans, Chinese Dynasties etc. none of these dozen civilisation that brought us Pyramids, the Great wall of China and other marvellous in-explainable constructions etc. has ever found any of these so called fossils but just them, right after their demonic prophecy in his book prior, just as John of Kennedy prophesied about going to the moon before they went and faked it.

Darwin needed the dinosaurs to explain his theory of evolution which needs ridiculous time-lines for it ever having a chance, using that hoax allowed them to claim ridiculous fictitious time-lines like 100-500 million years ago and the earth being billions years old and not young as the fast majority of scientist (even present ones) believed.

The Dinosaurs, Evolution and the biggest of them all, the heliocentric endlessly spinning ball earth myth are all designed to detach people from intelligent design and the one that created them and put them on the earth, if you debate an atheist, these are pretty much the myths they rest their faith on.

It's always the same argument! we are just a spec of dust spinning in endless space among septillion other planets that may have life, why would a god all of a sudden care so much about humans that are right at the end of the "evolutionary" timescale a spec of purposeless dust going in infinite space? these are their core arguments, all built on false premises beautified by none other then Iblis.

When they find out that the earth is actually at the centre (geocentricism which all humanity believed in and scientist) and the moon, stars, sun and everything else revolves around us just as we can see and observe our-self with our own eyes, we are no longer a spec of dust without purpose, we are the centre of it all, just as the Quran says that Bani Adam are favoured and the best of creation, how much more importance can one bestow on a people? atheism, agnosticism will all die instantaneously, when people realise this truth, that's why it's being kept from them.

[grandpakhalif]

Brother thanks, the freemasonic cult has truly fooled alot of people, they are all fooled into spheroid bullshit.

Smooth what about the solar system and beyond? Did they lie to us about Jupiter being a ball of gas or Venus being a virtual office oven? We know these planets on our solar system exist because they are mentioned in the Quran. But what about beyond our solar system. NASA always claims to have discovered a new "earth styled planet"

[Xanuunku]

Smooth it is obvious we agree, they even say the moon itself is the result of a meteroid, how ridiculous.

Whats your opinion on the existence of dinosaurs, I personally dont have a definitive opinion

Another Darwinian hoax, Darwin magically prophesied about their existence in his book before any 'supposed' fossils were found, then bang magically 2 years later they began to appear and it's not ordinary people that found these fossils but palaeontologist from the same network and evolutionary biologists with the same vested interest. It's well known Darwin family were part of the freemasonic cult, this is fact.

Think about this for a moment, all the civilisation before, the Mayan's, the Sumerian's, the Egyptians, the Babylonian, the Persian's, Romans, Chinese Dynasties etc. none of these dozen civilisation that brought us Pyramids, the Great wall of China and other marvellous in-explainable constructions etc. has ever found any of these so called fossils but just them, right after their demonic prophecy in his book prior, just as John of Kennedy prophesied about going to the moon before they went and faked it.

Darwin needed the dinosaurs to explain his theory of evolution which needs ridiculous time-lines for it ever having a chance, using that hoax allowed them to claim ridiculous fictitious time-lines like 100-500 million years ago and the earth being billions years old and not young as the fast majority of scientist (even present ones) believed.

The Dinosaurs, Evolution and the biggest of them all, the heliocentric endlessly spinning ball earth myth are all designed to detach people from intelligent design and the one that created them and put them on the earth, if you debate an atheist, these are pretty much the myths they rest their faith on.

It's always the same argument! we are just a spec of dust spinning in endless space among septillion other planets that may have life, why would a god all of a sudden care so much about humans that are right at the end of the "evolutionary" timescale a spec of purposeless dust going in infinite space? these are their core arguments, all built on false premises beautified by none other then Iblis.

When they find out that the earth is actually at the centre (geocentricism which all humanity believed in and scientist) and the moon, stars, sun and everything else revolves around us just as we can see and observe our-self with our own eyes, we are no longer a spec of dust without purpose, we are the centre of it all, just as the Quran says that Bani Adam are favoured and the best of creation, how much more importance can one bestow on a people? atheism, agnosticism will all die instantaneously, when people realise this truth, that's why it's being kept from them.

Smooth brother, what about many cultures speaking about mythical beasts in their folklores from dragons which were mentioned in Chinese, British and South American cultures and other mythical beasts??

I agree with everything you have said

[NoAngst]

My question to you here is very simple, as everything here contradicts even the official images put out by NASA and their open claims they are CGI images

1) Which of those 5 shapes do you rest your faith on, you sticking to oblate spheroid this decade which is currently accepted by the community or the latest pear shaped by the leading astrophysicist?

2) Blue Marble Nasa image (2014) and the supposed Appolo image (60's) contradict each other and the present accepted shape (oblate spheroid), all 3 cannot be right, either the moon mission was a hoax, the oblate spheroid accepted shape is wrong or Rob Simmons Blue Marble official Nasa image (which he supposedly gathered info from Satellites) is a hoax

So which is it? at least 2 of them have to be a hoax, which begs the question why should I even begin to believe in the rest? please do not divert from this "shape" topic, we will move on to the others gradually.

You're way behind the curve (and out of your wits, to boot). NASA's DSCOVR satellite takes several daily pictures of whole earth. It shows the blue planet spinning with ongoing weather systems over many parts of the world. You can even verify if the DSCOVR is accurate by comparing the weather in your region with the cloud patters show on the map for that day and location.

You can see it for yourself here: http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/

[NoAngst]

This is the order of the satanic demonic masonic myths starting with the least to the worst

1) 9/11 Hoax
2)Fake Apollo missions
3)Evolution
4)Heliocentric globe earth myth


That's how the progression here goes, most Muslims and even a lot of Non Muslims will believe in both 1/2, the Non Muslims drop for the rest, but the Muslim continues to believe that 3 is also false and demonic, but somehow they stop at 4 which is by far the greatest hoax ever perpetrated.

Are you seriously arguing in 2016 that the sun is not the center of our solar system?

There is a reason why they have these ball earth spinning myth in schools, in every class room, at the start of every Hollywood movie, it's drilled in so bad, that I even saw Muslims and Christians leave their faith after I proved from both scriptures it's flat. They go to such great lengths using fish eye lenses (red bull jump)

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs.

Tell us how exactly is the earth not 1) round, 2) spinning, 3) tilting about its axis and 4) how an elaborate conspiracy involving the consensus opinion among the scientific community, the educational establishment of virtually ever country on earth, the media, the movie industry, and so on have managed to dupe god-fearing Christians and Muslims of this world? Please enlighten us.

I've heard a lot of outlandish conspiracy theories but this one takes the biscuit.

The moment you free yourself of that last indoctrination, you truelly become free and everything else begins to make sense, your no longer part of a septillion of planets, a mere dust in space, shooting around at speeds you can't even comprehend and that you magically don't feel because of mythical gravity.

Of course, if you free yourself from the constraints imposed by evidence and reason, you can believe in anything. It's called magical thinking. But thinking people don't have that luxury because the real world doesn't afford us that which doesn't comport with reason and evidence.

You begin to see just as all the scientist before these masonic Copernicus and Darwinist's spawns were given prominence by these establishment satanist believed the earth was flat just as you can see and observe, a geocentric marvel were all the stars, moon, sun revolve around us just as we can see and observe, you are essentially being taught not to trust your observations, senses and what you see but trust the establishment NASA demonic indoctrination, the same people that faked the moon landing.

So, in addition to being geocentrist, you're also flat-earth believer? This is getting better by the paragraph.

And you're actually wrong. Your senses do tell that the earth is round. Everything from taking a long-distance flight to a trip on a ship to observing the moon (why is there a crescent moon, a full moon, etc?) to simply climbing a higher ground to see farther ... all demonstrate the curvature of the earth.

[NoAngst]

Another Darwinian hoax, Darwin magically prophesied about their existence in his book before any 'supposed' fossils were found, then bang magically 2 years later they began to appear and it's not ordinary people that found these fossils but palaeontologist from the same network and evolutionary biologists with the same vested interest. It's well known Darwin family were part of the freemasonic cult, this is fact.

This is demonstrable falsehood:

1. First dinosaur fossil was actually discovered in the 1600s, some 2 hundred years before the publication of Darwin's On the Origin of Species. That first dinosaur fossil was named Megalosaurus by William Buckland in 1824, some 35 years before Darwin published Theory of Evolution.
2. Early geologists and paleontologists were mostly pious Christians. Buckland was a clergyman. So was Adam Sedgwick one of the pioneers of modern geology; Sedgwick was one of the earliest to propose "deep earth" stretching the age of the earth to at least millions of years if not billions. He was also ardent believer and strong critic of Darwin even though he taught Darwin about geology.

You see most Europeans at the time that Darwin proposed his theory were Christian. Most rejected evolution. Even among scientists, it took decades for the consensus among scientific community to accept the Theory of Evolution.

Think about this for a moment, all the civilisation before, the Mayan's, the Sumerian's, the Egyptians, the Babylonian, the Persian's, Romans, Chinese Dynasties etc. none of these dozen civilisation that brought us Pyramids, the Great wall of China and other marvellous in-explainable constructions etc. has ever found any of these so called fossils but just them, right after their demonic prophecy in his book prior, just as John of Kennedy prophesied about going to the moon before they went and faked it.

This is really dumb argument. They also didn't find electricity, the steam engine, the plane, the car, the train, the transistor radio and the internet. What does that say other than they were ancient civilizations who didn't at the time possess the knowledge we do today.

Darwin needed the dinosaurs to explain his theory of evolution which needs ridiculous time-lines for it ever having a chance, using that hoax allowed them to claim ridiculous fictitious time-lines like 100-500 million years ago and the earth being billions years old and not young as the fast majority of scientist (even present ones) believed.

I read the On the Origin of Species a couple of times and no where in it does Darwin say or hint that dinosaurs are required to explain evolution. You're just making shitt up.

The Dinosaurs, Evolution and the biggest of them all, the heliocentric endlessly spinning ball earth myth are all designed to detach people from intelligent design and the one that created them and put them on the earth, if you debate an atheist, these are pretty much the myths they rest their faith on.

You're missing the point. The Theory of Special Creation, what you call "intelligent design," was the reigning paradigm for much of human history. It lost its place because it simply offered inadequate explanation of the world. The world is not 6000 or 10000 years old. Man didn't descend from Adam and Eve. And there's no evidence for the existence of after-life.

[LoveandLight]

From fragments we assume from the ancients,
We know that they mastered the mysteries of turtle piss. This ether that surrounds the multiverse.
The source of the myth of vimanas dates to the precursors of the vedic civilisation and even sumer and kmt and pwenet
.

Unlike you, I was very invested into this spinning ball earth heliocentric masonic myth, I have an entire room filled with books from everything since a young child and even an expensive telescope to show for it

The only difference between us Gurey is that I have a critical mind swayed by facts not false indoctrination's, I take it you also believe in Evolution since it comes from the same masonic Godless source.

If your man enough I will debate you on this issue as someone that regularly posts on the international FE forums, about this endlessly revolving, rotating, tilting, spinning, shooting through infinite space ball earth myth.

The whole myth is 150 years old developed by proven Freemason Copernicus, in that short time we went through the following phases regarding the shape of the earth, lets begin this debate about the supposed shape first, we went from

1) circle/ball shaped (Copernicus)
2) Spherical (Pre WW)
3) Spheroid (this what I was thought in school)
4) Oblate Spheroid (flattened at the poles, last decade & current accepted shape by the masonic run science community)
5) Pear shaped ( flattened by the poles, latest by Neil De Grasse Tyson leading Astrophysicist as of this year)


This is the image supposedly taking by Apollo Hoax mission to the Moon several decades ago (proven to be fake, you can see this in photoshop)


This is the infamous 2014 Blue Marble image supposedly captured by sattelites by Rob Simmons (MR blue Marble whom admits it's photoshopped)

source:http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=84214

source where he admits it's photoshopped
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/abo ... immon.html


Visual difference between points 2) and 3) for the laymen




My question to you here is very simple, as everything here contradicts even the official images put out by NASA and their open claims they are CGI images

1) Which of those 5 shapes do you rest your faith on, you sticking to oblate spheroid this decade which is currently accepted by the community or the latest pear shaped by the leading astrophysicist?

2) Blue Marble Nasa image (2014) and the supposed Appolo image (60's) contradict each other and the present accepted shape (oblate spheroid), all 3 cannot be right, either the moon mission was a hoax, the oblate spheroid accepted shape is wrong or Rob Simmons Blue Marble official Nasa image (which he supposedly gathered info from Satellites) is a hoax

So which is it? at least 2 of them have to be a hoax, which begs the question why should I even begin to believe in the rest? please do not divert from this "shape" topic, we will move on to the others gradually.

Greetings.


The Demons would have the people getting their information mainly from Satanic Hollywood. They don't want the people to read and ask questions. If people are so consumed in mindless entertainment, they will not be thinking about important subjects like this one.

There is not one real picture of Earth. All the pictures are CGI. When you compare some of the official NASA (Never A Straight Answer) "pictures" of Earth, you see major discrepancies, as you mentioned. They keep changing what shape the Earth is supposed to be.

Having lied to us once before ("Men have landed on the Moon!"), you can be damn sure they have lied to us many, many other times.

Trust your senses, people. The Sun and Moon are relatively close to us, and move around the flat, stationary Earth.

[GalliumerianSlayer]

Gurey, you crack me up

[smooth]

Smooth brother, what about many cultures speaking about mythical beasts in their folklores from dragons which were mentioned in Chinese, British and South American cultures and other mythical beasts??

I agree with everything you have said

Many cultures also spoke about seeing Angels, with even the Jaahil Arab's describing them as God's Daughters, if you sift through books you find a lot of bizarre folklore that is used to put children to bed, I heard many of them myself growing up.

It cannot be taken as any fact because there is absence of evidence whether it's visual evidence or any bones that had been found, they couldn't have seen any of them had they existed because supposedly it was 100-300 million years ago and according to establishment science humans are only a few ten's of thousand of years old and their extinction gave them the ability to come about through evolution.

We can also rule out any supposed bone that was found by those civilisations as even the establishment acknowledges they were the first to have found them, there is not even a supposed drawings of these beasts in the forms these Darwinian's demonic imagined, and we have lots of images and drawings from those civilisations.

[smooth]

Think about this for a moment, all the civilisation before, the Mayan's, the Sumerian's, the Egyptians, the Babylonian, the Persian's, Romans, Chinese Dynasties etc. none of these dozen civilisation that brought us Pyramids, the Great wall of China and other marvellous in-explainable constructions etc. has ever found any of these so called fossils but just them, right after their demonic prophecy in his book prior, just as John of Kennedy prophesied about going to the moon before they went and faked it.

This is really dumb argument. They also didn't find electricity, the steam engine, the plane, the car, the train, the transistor radio and the internet. What does that say other than they were ancient civilizations who didn't at the time possess the knowledge we do today.

We are talking about fossil finds here, a bare footed shepherd found the dead sea scrolls in a cave whom couldn't even read and write, these civilisation that built vast constructions, from towers, monuments, pyramids, great walls etc. would have very easily found these supposed fossils.

Your post proves how very little you actually know about construction, at every construction site relics, gems and pieces of history are found, they even have special teams that accompany them just for this reason, you want us to believe to all of these civilisations didn't find them but the white man did? take your supremacist crap elsewhere.

So, in addition to being geocentrist, you're also flat-earth believer? This is getting better by the paragraph.
And you're actually wrong. Your senses do tell that the earth is round. Everything from taking a long-distance flight to a trip on a ship to observing the moon (why is there a crescent moon, a full moon, etc?) to simply climbing a higher ground to see farther ... all demonstrate the curvature of the earth

Humans are very sensitive to motions, just simple acts such as slight acceleration, decelaration and going up a lift we all sense and feel, you have motion sickness for a reason particularly at sea.

You don't even know all the ridiculous fictitious speeds that are reported by these masonic astrophysicists, so let's recap, at the ridiculous stuff you have to believe despite it going contrary to your senses.


-1000mph Earth spin on its Axis
-107000km/hr the speed the Earth travels to go around the Sun
-43000mph is the speed both the Earth and Sun are moving towards Star Vega in Contellation of Lyra
-483000mph the speed at which our entire milky way moves on a supposed collision course.

These are all numbers they have plucked from their arse, and to believe in them is dogma, indoctrination and a sign of mental enslavement, you cannot have any intelligence by ignoring everything that all your senses tell you very clearly and to believe in such callous myths, I cannot even describe it as a leap faith for someone that even believes in this.

Unlike you, I actually studied physics at university and have tonne of books on astrophysics, cosmology and good knowledge of it, I had been curious from a very young age, my sceptical mind has never allowed me to accept things as they are, so very early on things weren't adding up especially after I bought my first telescope.

Do not bounce up and down from different topic's, let's stick to the earth since this topic is dealing with that question, you would never come to these above conclusions by yourself without the dogma and indoctrination, it's time you set yourself free.