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Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 5:01 pm
by paperino
samirir wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 12:58 am We have Arab admixture but it’s MATERNAL.
Is it Hashimi admixture?

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 6:12 am
by samirir
paperino wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 5:01 pm
samirir wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 12:58 am We have Arab admixture but it’s MATERNAL.
Is it Hashimi admixture?
No,it’s an ancient admixture it probably won’t be detected in a DNA test since it’s long time ago. Some Somalis have different maternal Haplogroups but most of us have a Horn African paternal haplogroup.

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 12:52 pm
by paperino
samirir wrote: Mon May 25, 2020 6:12 am No,it’s an ancient admixture it probably won’t be detected in a DNA test since it’s long time ago. Some Somalis have different maternal Haplogroups but most of us have a Horn African paternal haplogroup.
Aren't there different paternal haplogroup?

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:38 pm
by samirir
paperino wrote: Mon May 25, 2020 12:52 pm
samirir wrote: Mon May 25, 2020 6:12 am No,it’s an ancient admixture it probably won’t be detected in a DNA test since it’s long time ago. Some Somalis have different maternal Haplogroups but most of us have a Horn African paternal haplogroup.
Aren't there different paternal haplogroup?
80% of us have E1b1b1 Haplogroup which is African. 10% have T Haplogroup. Only 2 percent have Haplogroup J which is Arab. So only 2% of Somalis in total have Arab paternal lineage.

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:04 am
by mwaura
All these posts and not a single dna study!

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Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:12 am
by mwaura
Bantu dna of royal mummies.

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Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pm
by paperino
mwaura, interesting findings. Are there Kenyans who claim kinship ties with ancient Egyptians?

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:59 pm
by Kimobaasto
No I'm not a descendant of Fircoon (LA) I'm a 混沌狂人 descendant of Sheikh Isxaaq (RA)

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:39 am
by paperino
Kimobaasto wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:59 pm No I'm not a descendant of Fircoon (LA) I'm a 混沌狂人 descendant of Sheikh Isxaaq (RA)
Sheikh Isxaaq is virtually unknown in the West. Why are you passing the chance to be admired by the West for claiming kinship ties with famed & much admired Fircoon & Egyptian civilization? It could possibly bring business, tourism, prosperity, etc to your town & region.

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:23 am
by mwaura
paperino wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pm mwaura, interesting findings. Are there Kenyans who claim kinship ties with ancient Egyptians?
Only those who known their true history! I do know Kikuyus,Kambas, Maasais and many other Bantus have a Middle Eastern not just AE history.
Hobley, (1922) a colonial District Commissioner attributed the similarity of the Akamba word for spirits with the Assyrian one as pure chance. He (Hobley, 1922, p.27) found that “Curiously enough, the disembodied spirit was called Edimmu by the ancient Assyrian according to R.C Thompson in “Semitic Magic”. Hobley observed that the Assyrian word Edimmu (whose root is immu) is the same as the Kamba for the same concept. [/b]He stated that despite that similarity, there was hardly any evidence to show that the identity was “anything but accidental.” Hobley also noticed similarities of certain Kikuyu and Kamba customs to Egypt and Semitism. He dismissed them as due to ‘parallel development’ because, only the “Ba-Hima or Ba-Huma” (of Rwanda Urundi) are believed by one sir Harry Johnston to be descendants of ancient Egyptian settlers…”
https://hubpages.com/politics/Falsifica ... as-history

J.G Frazer (Hobley, 1922, p.9) who wrote the forward to Hobley’s book however offers the reader a ray of hope by contradicting Hobley in the same book. Frazier, regarding the Semitic vestiges in the Kikuyu and Akamba supposed that,
“…recent investigations in this part of Africa, particularly with regard to the native veins of iron and gold, tend in the opinion of some competent inquiries to show that East Central Africa, including the region of the great lakes, was an extremely ancient seat of a rudimentary civilisation, the seeds of which may have been carried whether by migration or contact of peoples, to remote parts of Europe and Asia.

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:27 pm
by Kimobaasto
paperino wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:39 am
Kimobaasto wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:59 pm No I'm not a descendant of Fircoon (LA) I'm a 混沌狂人 descendant of Sheikh Isxaaq (RA)
Sheikh Isxaaq is virtually unknown in the West. Why are you passing the chance to be admired by the West for claiming kinship ties with famed & much admired Fircoon & Egyptian civilization? It could possibly bring business, tourism, prosperity, etc to your town & region.
None of our ancestors are famous because they didn't build great civilizations or make chronicles unlike ancient Egyptians Sumerians Greeks and Persians l

Claiming other people's history won't bring prosperity to my town

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 pm
by Jabuutawi
When it is said and done the north which encompasses Djibouti and northern regions of Somalia, it would be majority paternal haplogroup T. It is trending that way. And in Somali-Galbeed, I would say over 40%, haplogroup T. This is based on reading new research papers, anecdotal evidence and extrapolation of the data.

Laughable at 10% 😂

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:19 pm
by mahoka
I don’t believe people of Djibouti and Somaliland share any DNA, I have seen how both groups look and they are completely different, like how South Sudanese and north Sudanese look, or how Ethiopian oromo and Ethiopian Dinka look so different, I was very shocked.

We need to do a genetic mapping process in Somaliland and somali region of Ethiopia, I suspect that is were the actual Somali looking people tend to be from, I am sure we will discover w lot of foreign groups joined somali banner

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:27 pm
by Jabuutawi
^what is your paternal DNA? I suspect you are NOT haplogroup T, that is my post. Don’t confuse it with other issues. Knowing few things about your sub-clan, you are closer to Oromos than haplogroup T Somali, paternally speaking.

Re: Somalis are descendants of Ancient Egypt

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:33 pm
by Jabuutawi
mahoka wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:19 pm I don’t believe people of Djibouti and Somaliland share any DNA, I have seen how both groups look and they are completely different, like how South Sudanese and north Sudanese look, or how Ethiopian oromo and Ethiopian Dinka look so different, I was very shocked.

We need to do a genetic mapping process in Somaliland and somali region of Ethiopia, I suspect that is were the actual Somali looking people tend to be from, I am sure we will discover w lot of foreign groups joined somali banner
😂😂😂 mention, ‘what’s your paternal DNA?’ and this Oromo goes AWOL for weeks. We already know you are a coalition of God knows what, why escape from the inevitable and obvious?