Very embarrassing video. Are Somalis black lol

[Siciid85]

The most embarrassing part is none of them can actually speak a lick of Somali. They had a video up challenging each whom can speak Somali

[Khalid Ali]

somalis have arab in them the same way they have african in them. thats about it

[Thanatophiliac]

somalis have arab in them the same way they have african in them. thats about it

DNA says otherwise. If you possess Haplogroup E-V32 in your Y-DNA, you could safely assume to the margin of 99.99999% that you have no recent Arab ancestor. Unless this ancestor was a descendant from the soldiers of Abraha the Abyssinian or another Arabised negro who picked up an alias somewhere in the deserts of Mesopotamia. Best to let this claiming slide.

[X.Playa]

Xplaya, the two things are correlated. If Somalis stopped claiming mythical Ali Babas and we're proud of their African ancestry, we wouldn't have so many selfhating teenage bimbos. If we didn't put Arabs and their culture on a pedestal we would have confused morons asking "who's my daddy?" on YouTube and Twitter.

I don't think 99% of Somalis wake up and think about Sheekh isxaaq or Daarood. You are intentionally ignoring the elephant in the room and that's is the Arab philosophy called Islam that's what made and makes Somalis subservient to anything Arab not long ago two dead dudes. Look no further then tomb of shekih isxaaq not once for over 7 century a penney was spent to maintain that structure most isaaq wake up in the morning thinking about Mohamed or the new song made by numcaan or some permiscouse wajiyo-xun then anything of Arab ancestry.

Islam existed before Arabs. It is the belief in 1 God. It is not an Arab "philosophy". There are more Indonesian Muslims than Arabs. And yes, they were exposed to Islam via Muslim traders yet Indonesians don't think they're Arabs. You do.

But explain to everyone, how do you proudly claim Arabs as your ancestors and yet hate them? Are you not self-hating?

Who the he'll cliames to be an Arab I don't and never did. But history won't be altered for political, religious or tribal reasons. The Sheekh isxaaq issue only bothers those who hide behind the Arab pretext to essentially make Isaaq part of a Tarzan called Dir ibn Rag ibn Zag Ibn Nag. The tradition will be kept why should Isaaq abandon theirs while Hawiye and Dir and Daarood maintain their arboreal ancestor.

Whether Sheekh isxaaq was an Arab or a stone age cave man matters little. What matters to us is the fact that he was our founder and patriarch. And that's what bothers the Dir Ibn Tarzan extermist.

[Thanatophiliac]

Who the he'll cliames to be an Arab I don't and never did. But history won't be altered for political, religious or tribal reasons. The Sheekh isxaaq issue only bothers those who hide behind the Arab pretext to essentially make Isaaq part of a Tarzan called Dir ibn Rag ibn Zag Ibn Nag. The tradition will be kept why should Isaaq abandon theirs while Hawiye and Dir and Daarood maintain their arboreal ancestor.

Whether Sheekh isxaaq was an Arab or a stone age cave man matters little. What matters to us is the fact that he was our founder and patriarch. And that's what bothers the Dir Ibn Tarzan extermist.

Nobody really cares much. Dir is big enough without you. And with a whopping 80-90% uniformity in their paternal DNA (Haplogroup T1). They can scientifically claim homogenity. (Fact based).
Whereas your lot are certainly a mixed bunch. Some are E-V32 and some are T. The implications of this means you are not of the same paternal descent. Meaning that someone picked up the name somewhere through confederacy. Either way, nobody knows who the descendants of Shaykh Ishaq are. The E-V32 Isaaqs or the T Isaaqs.
As for the Darods. Almost 100% E-V32. Same as Hawiye.

Everyone says the Dir are a confederacy, DNA says otherwise!

[Thanatophiliac]

"The maximal worldwide frequency for haplogroup T is observed in the Dir Clan of Somalia, Djibouti and Ogaden region, where it accounts for approximately 70 to 90% of the male lineages".

Plaster; et al. (2011). "Variation in Y chromosome, mitochondrial DNA and labels of identity on Ethiopia" (PDF). UCL Discovery.

[Thanatophiliac]

Don't hate. You Negros.

[X.Playa]

Who the he'll cliames to be an Arab I don't and never did. But history won't be altered for political, religious or tribal reasons. The Sheekh isxaaq issue only bothers those who hide behind the Arab pretext to essentially make Isaaq part of a Tarzan called Dir ibn Rag ibn Zag Ibn Nag. The tradition will be kept why should Isaaq abandon theirs while Hawiye and Dir and Daarood maintain their arboreal ancestor.

Whether Sheekh isxaaq was an Arab or a stone age cave man matters little. What matters to us is the fact that he was our founder and patriarch. And that's what bothers the Dir Ibn Tarzan extermist.

Nobody really cares much. Dir is big enough without you. And with a whopping 80-90% uniformity in their paternal DNA (Haplogroup T1). They can scientifically claim homogenity. (Fact based).
Whereas your lot are certainly a mixed bunch. Some are E-V32 and some are T. The implications of this means you are not of the same paternal descent. Meaning that someone picked up the name somewhere through confederacy. Either way, nobody knows who the descendants of Shaykh Ishaq are. The E-V32 Isaaqs or the T Isaaqs.
As for the Darods. Almost 100% E-V32. Same as Hawiye.

Everyone says the Dir are a confederacy, DNA says otherwise!

And May I ask who did this fantastic research test and conclusion? Rubbish. Keep your Tarzan myth and leave sheikh Isxaaq to us . Why does it bother the nobn-isaaq is baffling to me.

[Thanatophiliac]

And May I ask who did this fantastic research test and conclusion? Rubbish. Keep your Tarzan myth and leave sheikh Isxaaq to us . Why does it bother the nobn-isaaq is baffling to me.

Why don't you enquire those who have taken the test who are from your tribe? There are hundreds. Since your knowledge on this subject is extremely novice and based on compounded ignorance, maybe ask those amongst your own clan who can decipher it for you. The sample of those who have taken the test already have logged in their details. Social scientists have always used that to make a preliminary judgement in terms of populations. Just go visit Family Tree DNA. That database will be held factually, consider it something resembling the National Consensus. Everyone logs in their details. But it determines a whole nations data such as population, demographics etc.

We don't want you. Dir is the original owners of this land. We don't claim to be Arabs. We keep it real.

[Twist]

I noticed every single arab I've ever met thinks somalis are Arabs with actual arab abtiris, not just arab league politics. Also many in the Gulf will know the clans and consider you saadaat if you're a proven isaaqi.. So it's not really us just "claiming" them or having daddy issues...

O dear! Please tell me you're joking.

[X.Playa]

And May I ask who did this fantastic research test and conclusion? Rubbish. Keep your Tarzan myth and leave sheikh Isxaaq to us . Why does it bother the nobn-isaaq is baffling to me.

Why don't you enquire those who have taken the test who are from your tribe? There are hundreds. Since your knowledge on this subject is extremely novice and based on compounded ignorance, maybe ask those amongst your own clan who can decipher it for you. The sample of those who have taken the test already have logged in their details. Social scientists have always used that to make a preliminary judgement in terms of populations. Just go visit Family Tree DNA. That database will be held factually, consider it something resembling the National Consensus. Everyone logs in their details. But it determines a whole nations data such as population, demographics etc.

We don't want you. Dir is the original owners of this land. We don't claim to be Arabs. We keep it real.

I sense anger in your response but can't deciphere as to the reasons. I know the handful who took the test and I see nothing particular about their results. Also I follow the Jewish and the Arab dna bank and every single clan from both sides including so called Bani Quraysh have various results including historical puported cousins as the kings of Jordan and Morocco. It's within the natures of clans all over the earth to have a multi ethics make up all clans adopt different people through the century.

So you not teaching me anything. Just keep your Dir Tarzan ancestor to yourself and I keep mine to myself.