My 23 & Me Results: Professor Zumaale...

[Veganista]

Veganista, breakdown of my MENA is as follows:

5.7% North Africa
0.1% Broadly MENA

Couldn't edit my previous post. Your the first person so far to have such high African North percentage compared to the majority. Must be coming from your Yemen grandmother. If you click on the arrow next to North African and then unfold you will see a list of countries they classified under North African.

[Sahibzada]

Sahibzada why Eurogenes K13 and not puntDNAL or Ethiohelix?

Jabuutawi, where does it give you this info about you 1720 ancestor? I have never seen 23andme give this out. It is probably maternal, Somalis seem a lot more diverse on the maternal side than they are on the paternal side.

K13/K15 seems to have the most accurate oracles on Gedmatch.It help you decipher your true ancestry better then 23andme espeicially inter horner ancestry.

When I first got my results I didn't know anything about Genetics or even my JB history.So an extremly cool Somali dude called Awale(who actually has an extremely informative blog btw called anthromadness) ran my results through calculators like the K13,K15,K7 and K36.Apparently I have some distant Oromo ancestor(female) but that blood was extremely diluted after remixing back into the Somali genepool.Probably some Akisho/Jaarso female anyways here are my oracles

K13

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.004604
2 Somali + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.422973
3 Ethiopian_Oromo + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.558832
4 Ethiopian_Oromo + Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali @ 2.092100
5 Ethiopian_Wolayta + Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali @ 2.324784
6 Ethiopian_Oromo + Ethiopian_Oromo + Somali + Somali @ 2.617676


K15
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Somali +50% Somali @ 1.831702


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Somali +25% Somali +25% Somali @ 1.831702


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.099570
2 Ethiopian_Oromo + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.133845
3 Ethiopian_Oromo + Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali @ 1.576311
4 Somali + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 1.831702

Wait, how do you share genetic affinity with Wolayta, they are largely omotic. Somalis have very tiny omotic DNA, if any at all?

Wolayta are not pure omotics.Majority of their ancestry is largely cushite(probably language shifters) and they score similar West Eurasian levels to Somalis although a tad bit lower then us.Obviously as a JB/HA we have never neighbored those folks so it's probably in my opinion a distant Akisho/Jaarso/Eastern Oromo female.

Can you explain how the population approximation show you had an oromo female ancestor? Also what does the number at the end mean?

Shit be confusing.

A pure Somali would score Somali + Somali + Somali + Somali as their closest population when using 4-population mix but I consistently get some Ethiopian Oromo/Wolayta(Oromo-like folks).The reason I know the ancestor is female and not male is because I took an Y-DNA test years ago with 12 str markers and my results were exactly the same as the other SM and now even CM.Which shows I descend directly from Subeyr Awal(probably wasn't even his real name lol)

Also the numbers in the end signify how close you are to a population,the smaller the number are the more similar you are to that population

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Somali @ 1.422973
2 Ethiopian_Oromo @ 5.201436
3 Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 5.443871
4 Ethiopian_Amhara @ 14.676268
5 Ethiopian_Tigray @ 16.797710
6 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 24.137976
7 Maasai @ 28.832952
8 Hadza @ 35.790165
9 Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 36.008053
10 Sandawe @ 36.843685
11 Ethiopian_Anuak @ 41.566128
12 Sudanese @ 44.401775
13 Moroccan @ 54.226421
14 Egyptian @ 55.207348
15 Algerian @ 55.723610
16 Mozabite_Berber @ 55.915329
17 Tunisian @ 57.319668
18 Bedouin @ 60.148987
19 San @ 60.697411
20 Jordanian @ 62.51435

[Ben Dover]

I see, thanks for the explanation.

I am getting:

Using 4 populations approximation:
-1 Somali + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 2.182739 (<===== this is returning all Somali but the number is higher than you, should it not be smaller?)

-2 Ethiopian_Oromo + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 2.278302 (<====== Is this the mama Xabuusho gene? )

[SultanOrder]

I am fourth cousins with a Ciidagale. :huh:

[SultanOrder]

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Somali + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 4.137412
2 Ethiopian_Wolayta + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 5.054024
3 Ethiopian_Oromo + Somali + Somali + Somali @ 5.431532

[AwRastaale]

Interesting.

So you are the first Issa to take the test?

I saw the Samaroon fella too.

I will do mine in the near future.

It shouldn't be different than other Garhajis.

[Jabuutawi]

First Isse on Snet? Perhaps.

Studies have been done on Isse haplogroups in Djibouti and Dire Dhabe. Results are overwhelmingly consistent.

[Thanatophiliac]

First Isse on Snet? Perhaps.

Studies have been done on Isse haplogroups in Djibouti and Dire Dhabe. Results are overwhelmingly consistent.

There is quite a number of Isse's who took the test. All Haplogroup T. They, alongside Gadabursi and Surre are in the 99.99% range.

[SultanOrder]

So, is Garhajis not Isaaq or is the real Isaaq? Will the real Isaaq please stand up

[zumaale]

LH

Too early to say whether Dirs are mainly T. T is also present in Daroods, in small percentages, and non Garxajis Isaaqs. I am sure you are familiar with the Madagascan paper and the prevalence of Haplogroup T among some tribes that live there. If T got to Madagascar and Zimbabwe via the Indian Ocean, then anything is plausible in regard to the founding father that some Somali haplogroup T carriers descend from, but I do agree that we most likely expanded into the Horn of Africa with the Cushites.

Bro, I am yet to see any Darood or Hawiye who is T. I've seen at least 2 Darod (who were both Warsangeli) if my memory serves me correctly on 23andme who are Haplogroup J. And the only way I could identify that was because on their status its showed that they were from 'Badhan' Sanaag and another which is a Warsangeli settlement.

But Allahu Aclam

Bro, check my reply in your thread.

[zumaale]

So, is Garhajis not Isaaq or is the real Isaaq? Will the real Isaaq please stand up

Garxajis are the guardians of the Isaaq patriarch's tomb. If they ain't Isaaq, then there is no such thing as Isaaq.

[SultanOrder]

So, is Garhajis not Isaaq or is the real Isaaq? Will the real Isaaq please stand up

Garxajis are the guardians of the Isaaq patriarch's tomb. If they ain't Isaaq, then there is no such thing as Isaaq.

So odey Isaaq is T? lol

are there any tests that can show how close your paternal lineage is to someone else?

[Rabshoole]

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That is the most creative way so far to announce your genetic testing I like it Such a cute and beautiful dog yet so dangerous. I would never trust that breed and to pre-empt in advance i'm not scared of dogs even picked up and pet several of them.

Pit Bulls are the most scorned and misunderstood dog breeds in the world. Quite frankly, this breed aren't good guard dogs because they generally love people so much. Their roughhousing playfulness accompanied by people's preconceived judgement is easily mistaken for being aggressive when in all honesty its just a common dog behavior, altho that bully face compasses people to be set on ready!

[zumaale]

So, is Garhajis not Isaaq or is the real Isaaq? Will the real Isaaq please stand up

Garxajis are the guardians of the Isaaq patriarch's tomb. If they ain't Isaaq, then there is no such thing as Isaaq.

So odey Isaaq is T? lol

are there any tests that can show how close your paternal lineage is to someone else?

My Maternal Awoowo AUN was not related to E1b1b sons of HAM

Yeah, you can compare your STR markers with other Maareexan or other Darood E-V32 test results to estimate how closely related you are. The more STR's you test the better. Check the following links for a better explanation.

https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/dna-basics/ydna/

The Big Y test is the most comprehensive test when searching for a recent common ancestor, but it is way too expensive at the moment.

https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/y-d ... ing/big-y/

[SultanOrder]

Garxajis are the guardians of the Isaaq patriarch's tomb. If they ain't Isaaq, then there is no such thing as Isaaq.

So odey Isaaq is T? lol

are there any tests that can show how close your paternal lineage is to someone else?

My Maternal Awoowo AUN was not related to E1b1b sons of HAM

Yeah, you can compare your STR markers with other Maareexan or other Darood E-V32 test results to estimate how closely related you are. The more STR's you test the better. Check the following links for a better explanation.

https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/dna-basics/ydna/

The Big Y test is the most comprehensive test when searching for a recent common ancestor, but it is way too expensive at the moment.

https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/y-d ... ing/big-y/

How do I do this without retaking a DNA test? I already did the 23&me?