The irony!

[Xildiiid]

Farmaajo can't do shit to the 'Isaaq tribalists' (as you put it).

He's an AMISOM subject who runs a government that barely controls 2 districts in Mogadishu. A government that's outmaneuvered by Al-Shabaab when it comes to collecting taxes in the Walaweyn capital.

Nonetheless, the Darood have for once openly displayed their hypocrisy and overt clanism. Unfortunately southern clans like Hawiye and Raxanweyn are sleeping zombies. They were forced to accept Federalism and now the same Daroods who were calling for Federalism and antagonized Xassan Sheikh and Sheikh Dalxiis are now calling for centralism.

[Advo]

There are Darood people and Darood tribalist, same thing for Issaqs. Qabiileestayaal don't represent anyone but their sick twisted minds.

You guys can blow hot air all you want to, keep engaging in d!ck measuring contest in obscure forums all you want to but the rest of us will keep going. The nonsense wars, reer hebel vs reer hebel will be left in the dusbin of history. The fear mongering and propaganda in ur posts will be rendered useless.

Hawiye, darood, Issaq and so on, waa dad walaal ah and will figure things out. I have no doubt. The qabiileeste amongst our ranks will not define our future.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

Hawiye are politically incompetent. That's the reality no matter how you twist and turn. Farmaajo has built a reputation on the little progress made by Shariif during the 6 month period he was appointed and that ridiculous slogan 'danta dalka iyo dadka'.


26June,

If southern Somalis can't see the obvious hypocrisy then somebody has to point it out to them.

who cares about qabiil in a democratic govt.what matters is the will of the peopple who welcome him in every region and town. there wont be dictatorship rule. every region has its army what will happen is supporting the govt. he is not using foreigners to scare us, his bodyguard at the hotel r locals. all we care about r the policies. he did not even use his clan in his camaign. the head of his campaign was from the minority other guys were somaliwayn.

why farmajo is more important than sharif? him and sakiin used to criticize him for using public transportation bc eyes will be fixed on them. this is what the people like in him. once on his way to djibouti he was transite to hargeysa but your officials did not notice him another time wajir on his way to nairobi, he would land at cheaper hotels. he was the first pm who paid the army. i see him in a different eyes!

[FarhanYare]

It is too early to say southerners are incompetent because of how the election turned out. Horta let us see if he becomes productive or not; then you can say i told you so. Even if he turns out a complete failure and goes the qabiilste path gaaz took when it comes to federalism, at the end of the day i don't see how you the op this concerns you. I think what worries you is that he might persuade SL to forgo aspiration for an independent recognized nation especially if he builds a strong reputation during his tenure.

[Khalid Ali]

sahal is just happy abgaal left office because abgaal threatend hiiraan lol but lesson number one never side with the enemy clan against ur own kind even if he is bad 2 you.


advo so u admit the darod support farmaajo based on qabil thats all the point we were making before

[HappyRasta]

The propoganda coming out of the dofaars is truly amazing they believe in Somalinimo when it suites them and their Man is in villa amisom. Portraying Mr cheese as some sort of messiah their only building him up up to fail big time.

What I find amazing is how HAG have belived this propaganda and how much faith they lost in their own political leaders. Mr cheese will not substantially change the situation in their South and Somalinimo is vehicle toused and abused .

I think this dude will be humbled by the circumstances that he will find himself in. Alarms bells are ringing in Addis Ababa and Nairobi etc. Mr cheese statement of intention is clear. This will not help his cause if he is genuine about the people and the country. That's why he is telling his supporters no more booty shaking and demonstrations.

The idea that the only solution for achieving Somalinimo is one Country or place ,xamar Somalia, has to be resisted and fought against.

[Raidboss]

I would suggest people not to engage in tit for tat discussion with people who disbelieve in the unity and progress of the Somali people. They want to create more fitna and divide us further. But time is against them thus their desperation.

[Strategic]

1.5 iidors are on the verge of starvation,that is more important to talk about.

[Strategic]

1.5 M iidors are on the verge of starvation,that is more important to talk about.

[Advo]

advo so u admit the darod support farmaajo based on qabil thats all the point we were making before

Just like u hate him because of his qabiil, there are daroods that support him because of his qabiil. Our people have been suffering from qabyaalad for hundreds of years, so it's given.

However, thanks to Allah, its dying and the people who matter (those back home) are moving forward while those that don't (welfare living western Somalis) beat the drums of qabiil.

[Ben Dover]

Just like u hate him because of his qabiil, there are daroods that support him because of his qabiil. Our people have been suffering from qabyaalad for hundreds of years, so it's given.

However, thanks to Allah, its dying and the people who matter (those back home) are moving forward while those that don't (welfare living western Somalis) beat the drums of qabiil.

What are you talking about?

All mummified Snet Marexan came back to life out of pure qabyaalad.

Have your win of Mogadishu mayorship by all means, but you can not claim the moral high ground.

[Advo]

Snet mareexaan whether they scream for farmaajo or not don't matter and will have zero influence in what's happening in Somalia. Those that matter are in Somalia, and they have chosen to be above petty qabyaalad.

[Xildiiid]

Advo,

All Darood came out in support of Farmaajo because of clan. Where was this when Xassan Sheikh (an unknown candidate who worked in post civil war Somalia) was selected?

Darood didn't even give him the benefit of the doubt. 2 weeks after the selection, nicknames such as Garguurte, Culusow were created and the Daroogo vermin were protesting in Minneapolis, London, Gayroowe, Bumsaso and the Daroogo section of Kismaayo. They went as far as inviting Kenya to back their proposed clan state in the multiclan Jubba region completely antagonizing and destroying the symbolic sovereignty that the newly selected government had. That was the third time Daroogo invited foreign troops to Somali soil in order to fight their battles.

Today those same people are chanting nationalist slogans, stating that Somalia was revived when Farmaajo was selected.

We all know Darood hypocrisy and covert clanism when we see it.

[zumaale]

What is all the fuss about?

He was not elected by the Somali people but by the so called MP's. Who are we kidding? Somali society is not ready for representative democracy. Farmajo won due to a number of reasons, not solely because some view him as being Wadani or some sort of political saviour. Backroom deals, brown envelopes, disenchantment with Xassan, strategic voting, clannism etc all played a part in why he won.

As for him, his ability to initiate change is limited by the fact that he cannot rule with out Amisom or Western aid. Moreover, AS still retain the loyalty of a large number of Southern Somalis and like I have repeatedly stated, they have the beating of any Somali militia when the odds are even militarily speaking. Qabilism has also not suddenly died as there are still festering conflicts and grudges that Southern Somalis harbour against each other. It will take a generation or two before Somalis abandon their primary loyalty to Qabil.

Lastly, one cannot ignore the Elephant in the room. The Isaaq populace mainly want nothing to do without Somalia and in my opinon their separation from Somalia should be formalised. The Harti and the Samaron should aslo be allowed to decide where their loyalties lie.

[Ben Dover]

Lastly, one cannot ignore the Elephant in the room. The Isaaq populace mainly want nothing to do without Somalia and in my opinon their separation from Somalia should be formalised. The Harti and the Samaron should aslo be allowed to decide where their loyalties lie.

No chance mate, and you know it.

If there is any referendum it will take place in the entirety of Somaliland. Everyone will be given a vote, it will return a yes vote and we will be on our merry way.

Referenda are conducted in all of the territory in question. The only legal base for separation is the dissolving of the North-South union. Harti and Samaron are stuck with us for better or worse.