Doesn't claiming Alawis aren't Muslim make you Takfiri?Shirib wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:57 am Alawiite's if they actually believe in that are not Muslim. Their belief system is pure shirk. However most Alawi's don't even know their religion and being Alawi is more of a family tradition/culture.
Even shia's didn't consider them Muslim until the reign of the first Assad when he went to Lebanon and Iran and lobbied shia clerics to consider them shia so they could claim to be Muslim and assume power. The Iranians and Lebanese did so in order to gain political clout in Syria.
The greatest leaders of all time
Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators
Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
Re: The greatest leaders of all time
- gurey25
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 19349
- Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:00 pm
- Location: you dont wana know, trust me.
- Contact:
Re: The greatest leaders of all time
this depends on your thinking and behavior , if you believe all non muslims even those not ahlu kitab to be kufaar ,paperino wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:16 pmDoesn't claiming Alawis aren't Muslim make you Takfiri?Shirib wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:57 am Alawiite's if they actually believe in that are not Muslim. Their belief system is pure shirk. However most Alawi's don't even know their religion and being Alawi is more of a family tradition/culture.
Even shia's didn't consider them Muslim until the reign of the first Assad when he went to Lebanon and Iran and lobbied shia clerics to consider them shia so they could claim to be Muslim and assume power. The Iranians and Lebanese did so in order to gain political clout in Syria.
rejected , subdued and killed then you are a takfiri.
Knowing that they are not muslim but approaching them as fellow human being in brotherhood and respect is a better way.
This is how islam was spread all over the world in india, indonesia and parts of africa.
You have the example of mohideen chisti of the chisti sufi order that befriended hindus, debated religion with hindu priests and msytics and in his lifetime converted dozens of people to islam, his followers are responsible for millions entering islam.
isnt that a better way ?
- Shirib
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 26911
- Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:50 am
- Location: May God grant us victory.
Re: The greatest leaders of all time
No, Alawi creed is clearly kufr and not in the fold of Islam. If I claim to be Muslim but then say Jesus is the son of God calling me a kafir doesn't make you a takfiri. It's clear as day that by claiming Jesus is the son of God takes me out of the fold of Islam. Alawi beliefs are the same.paperino wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:16 pmDoesn't claiming Alawis aren't Muslim make you Takfiri?Shirib wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:57 am Alawiite's if they actually believe in that are not Muslim. Their belief system is pure shirk. However most Alawi's don't even know their religion and being Alawi is more of a family tradition/culture.
Even shia's didn't consider them Muslim until the reign of the first Assad when he went to Lebanon and Iran and lobbied shia clerics to consider them shia so they could claim to be Muslim and assume power. The Iranians and Lebanese did so in order to gain political clout in Syria.
- AbdiWahab252
- SomaliNet Super
- Posts: 56715
- Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:00 pm
- Location: Unity. Strength. Capital.
Re: The greatest leaders of all time
Terrible choice why not praise Gamal Abdelnasser(AUN) the greatest Arab leader in the last century.
Bashaar is a cockroach who got lucky. But they say every dog has its day
Bashaar is a cockroach who got lucky. But they say every dog has its day
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 0 Replies
- 560 Views
-
Last post by grandpakhalif
-
- 18 Replies
- 2052 Views
-
Last post by jamal859
-
- 16 Replies
- 1854 Views
-
Last post by Dhaga Bacayl
-
- 1 Replies
- 623 Views
-
Last post by Mozart101
-
- 3 Replies
- 1545 Views
-
Last post by pudding
-
- 0 Replies
- 433 Views
-
Last post by Knight of Wisdom
-
- 80 Replies
- 5298 Views
-
Last post by neocon_2007
-
- 13 Replies
- 1543 Views
-
Last post by galia
-
- 104 Replies
- 8638 Views
-
Last post by thehappyone
-
- 12 Replies
- 1176 Views
-
Last post by Thuganomics