Farmaajo's travel to Guri-Ceel was my favorite of the whole trip

[SultanOrder]

Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?

I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.

Other than Abdishakur I don’t see where the govt has used force. And don’t bring up the Daljir claim of being detained than let go, and has yet to bring any proof of what happened. What other “politicians” rights or which laws are being trampled on?

The federal states doing a publicity stunt is Farmaajo fracturing Somalia? I don’t know whether you are serious or not. The federal states were paid by UAE to undermine Farmaajo’s neutral stance in the gulf rift. That has backfired, and the federal states have all stopped that charade. Gaas gave a great welcome to Farmaajo and Xaaf publicly recanted his stance of opposition. How many tines did Gaas break ties with HSM’s govt?

As for HG being targeted show me where? Few random unrelated incidents is not a policy.

This govt is way more popular than HSM’s govt at the same time in its term.

If you look for things to be disappointed or scared by you will always find it, and if you look for things to be hopeful by you will find them.

HSM’s first term lest you forget was marred by a Jubbaland crisis, a rift with Puntland, and not to mention the fight with his own Prime Minister.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?

I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.

Other than Abdishakur I don’t see where the govt has used force. And don’t bring up the Daljir claim of being detained than let go, and has yet to bring any proof of what happened. What other “politicians” rights or which laws are being trampled on?

The federal states doing a publicity stunt is Farmaajo fracturing Somalia? I don’t know whether you are serious or not. The federal states were paid by UAE to undermine Farmaajo’s neutral stance in the gulf rift. That has backfired, and the federal states have all stopped that charade. Gaas gave a great welcome to Farmaajo and Xaaf publicly recanted his stance of opposition. How many tines did Gaas break ties with HSM’s govt?

As for HG being targeted show me where? Few random unrelated incidents is not a policy.

This govt is way more popular than HSM’s govt at the same time in its term.

If you look for things to be disappointed or scared by you will always find it, and if you look for things to be hopeful by you will find them.

HSM’s first term lest you forget was marred by a Jubbaland crisis, a rift with Puntland, and not to mention the fight with his own Prime Minister.

Bro this gov lost alot of support after qalbi dhagax fiasco and Bariire. Secondly Farmaajo is beefing with his PM as well it will be public the coming says/weeks. Just keep your eyes open.

[BVSNet]

Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?

I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.

Other than Abdishakur I don’t see where the govt has used force. And don’t bring up the Daljir claim of being detained than let go, and has yet to bring any proof of what happened. What other “politicians” rights or which laws are being trampled on?

The federal states doing a publicity stunt is Farmaajo fracturing Somalia? I don’t know whether you are serious or not. The federal states were paid by UAE to undermine Farmaajo’s neutral stance in the gulf rift. That has backfired, and the federal states have all stopped that charade. Gaas gave a great welcome to Farmaajo and Xaaf publicly recanted his stance of opposition. How many tines did Gaas break ties with HSM’s govt?

As for HG being targeted show me where? Few random unrelated incidents is not a policy.

This govt is way more popular than HSM’s govt at the same time in its term.

If you look for things to be disappointed or scared by you will always find it, and if you look for things to be hopeful by you will find them.

HSM’s first term lest you forget was marred by a Jubbaland crisis, a rift with Puntland, and not to mention the fight with his own Prime Minister.

How many people does this government have to murder before we are to get concerned? Do you have a number in mind? 6 people including a pregnant woman were murdered for political reasons, civilians were murdered in Bariire including young children, and those are just the ones we're sure Farmaajo's government was involved in. The leader of the opposition party getting harassed, a Senator's house and family being attacked by government forces. The government seeking to strip MPs of their immunity without cause or evidence. Farmajo's administration is a political risk to the country.

Farmaajo's administration is also divisive and it's forcing folks to push back and protect their interests against the government. Instead of seeking to strengthen a collaborative approach, this adminstration was flexing non existent muscles from day one and we now have the states who have a united voice against the federal government. Good or bad the union was built in retaliation.

Almost cementing his incompetence Farmaajo has come out with an it wasn't me explanation regarding qalbi dhagax 6 months after the fact. It's typical and what we've come to expect. Aggression coupled with incompetence, an unfortunate combination of traits that is at risk of unraveling progress to date.

[Voltage]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

Cause the way the gov spoke about it was disgusting. Changing the story million times from they where Al shabab to later admit tgey where innocent ppl. Pretty reckless and irresponsible behaviour by the gov.

[Mustafee101]

Jaalle Farmaajo has done more for Somalia than Culusow or any other Hutu “leaders.”

Nolosha cusub soo dhaweeya ilma Xaraan ku naax

[Publicopinion]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

Cause the way the gov spoke about it was disgusting. Changing the story million times from they where Al shabab to later admit tgey where innocent ppl. Pretty reckless and irresponsible behaviour by the gov.

Sub terrorists hide among civilians we know that and unfortunately collateral damage is gonna happen.maalin Walla ayuu ajnabiga somaliya duqeeyaa marka Hal dhacdo yaan last buunbuunin.isqabqabaai macno maleh

[xiimaaya]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

Cause the way the gov spoke about it was disgusting. Changing the story million times from they where Al shabab to later admit tgey where innocent ppl. Pretty reckless and irresponsible behaviour by the gov.

Abgaal has truly fallen from grace. Their greed (unka leh) has backfired and they are at back of the bus ..


Now they they have no influence in Somalia


Hassan sheikh has ruined their image . Shariff was another incomplete leader that was controlled by Puntland.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

Cause the way the gov spoke about it was disgusting. Changing the story million times from they where Al shabab to later admit tgey where innocent ppl. Pretty reckless and irresponsible behaviour by the gov.

Abgaal has truly fallen from grace. Their greed (unka leh) has backfired and they are at back of the bus ..


Now they they have no influence in Somalia


Hassan sheikh has ruined their image . Shariff was another incomplete leader that was controlled by Puntland.

LOL don’t know what to say when that is coming from a warsangeli. When have you ever been relevant?

[SultanOrder]

I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.

Other than Abdishakur I don’t see where the govt has used force. And don’t bring up the Daljir claim of being detained than let go, and has yet to bring any proof of what happened. What other “politicians” rights or which laws are being trampled on?

The federal states doing a publicity stunt is Farmaajo fracturing Somalia? I don’t know whether you are serious or not. The federal states were paid by UAE to undermine Farmaajo’s neutral stance in the gulf rift. That has backfired, and the federal states have all stopped that charade. Gaas gave a great welcome to Farmaajo and Xaaf publicly recanted his stance of opposition. How many tines did Gaas break ties with HSM’s govt?

As for HG being targeted show me where? Few random unrelated incidents is not a policy.

This govt is way more popular than HSM’s govt at the same time in its term.

If you look for things to be disappointed or scared by you will always find it, and if you look for things to be hopeful by you will find them.

HSM’s first term lest you forget was marred by a Jubbaland crisis, a rift with Puntland, and not to mention the fight with his own Prime Minister.

How many people does this government have to murder before we are to get concerned? Do you have a number in mind? 6 people including a pregnant woman were murdered for political reasons, civilians were murdered in Bariire including young children, and those are just the ones we're sure Farmaajo's government was involved in. The leader of the opposition party getting harassed, a Senator's house and family being attacked by government forces. The government seeking to strip MPs of their immunity without cause or evidence. Farmajo's administration is a political risk to the country.

Farmaajo's administration is also divisive and it's forcing folks to push back and protect their interests against the government. Instead of seeking to strengthen a collaborative approach, this adminstration was flexing non existent muscles from day one and we now have the states who have a united voice against the federal government. Good or bad the union was built in retaliation.

Almost cementing his incompetence Farmaajo has come out with an it wasn't me explanation regarding qalbi dhagax 6 months after the fact. It's typical and what we've come to expect. Aggression coupled with incompetence, an unfortunate combination of traits that is at risk of unraveling progress to date.

All you have done is use unrelated incidents that are dubiously related to the Farmaajo administration. The Attorney General, a family member of mine, ordered the arrest of Abdishakur, and his case is awaiting trial. It's unfortunate that people died, and that needs to be examined. Bariire was an airstrike ordered by the pentagon, airstrikes are nothing new in Somalia and preceded Farmaajo. I don't remember you blaming Hassan Sheikh for all the biyomaal killed by HG militias in SNA uniforms.

No federal state has broken ties with Farmaajo, unlike during HSM where Puntland and Jubbaland did several times. There is no united voice against the federal govt by the federal states, and foreign affairs is the federal govt's prerogative. Just because UAE paid a few leaders to go against the neutral stance in the gulf by the Farmaajo administration doesn't mean jack shit. In fact, relations with all the states are at it's highest, evidenced by the recent trip. Things are good between the states. Even the UAE has normalized relations with Somalia.

You have yet to show proof of a policy of targeting HG or any other qabil.

I'm done with this topic. Things suck in Somalia but they have always sucked. Farmaajo is not a messiah but nor were any of the other presidents. And he certainly isn't harbinger of destruction you make him out to be.

[SultanOrder]

Why do they keep bringing up Bariire with regards to Farmaajo? Last I remember that was a US drone strike

Cause the way the gov spoke about it was disgusting. Changing the story million times from they where Al shabab to later admit tgey where innocent ppl. Pretty reckless and irresponsible behaviour by the gov.

That's a legitimate criticism. But to say that Farmaajo is responsible as if he ordered or even has the power to give a green light is ridiculous.

[Khalid Ali]

Jaale midgaan failmaajo ka tuuro meesha stop being such a darod lovers

[BVSNet]

Other than Abdishakur I don’t see where the govt has used force. And don’t bring up the Daljir claim of being detained than let go, and has yet to bring any proof of what happened. What other “politicians” rights or which laws are being trampled on?

The federal states doing a publicity stunt is Farmaajo fracturing Somalia? I don’t know whether you are serious or not. The federal states were paid by UAE to undermine Farmaajo’s neutral stance in the gulf rift. That has backfired, and the federal states have all stopped that charade. Gaas gave a great welcome to Farmaajo and Xaaf publicly recanted his stance of opposition. How many tines did Gaas break ties with HSM’s govt?

As for HG being targeted show me where? Few random unrelated incidents is not a policy.

This govt is way more popular than HSM’s govt at the same time in its term.

If you look for things to be disappointed or scared by you will always find it, and if you look for things to be hopeful by you will find them.

HSM’s first term lest you forget was marred by a Jubbaland crisis, a rift with Puntland, and not to mention the fight with his own Prime Minister.

How many people does this government have to murder before we are to get concerned? Do you have a number in mind? 6 people including a pregnant woman were murdered for political reasons, civilians were murdered in Bariire including young children, and those are just the ones we're sure Farmaajo's government was involved in. The leader of the opposition party getting harassed, a Senator's house and family being attacked by government forces. The government seeking to strip MPs of their immunity without cause or evidence. Farmajo's administration is a political risk to the country.

Farmaajo's administration is also divisive and it's forcing folks to push back and protect their interests against the government. Instead of seeking to strengthen a collaborative approach, this adminstration was flexing non existent muscles from day one and we now have the states who have a united voice against the federal government. Good or bad the union was built in retaliation.

Almost cementing his incompetence Farmaajo has come out with an it wasn't me explanation regarding qalbi dhagax 6 months after the fact. It's typical and what we've come to expect. Aggression coupled with incompetence, an unfortunate combination of traits that is at risk of unraveling progress to date.

All you have done is use unrelated incidents that are dubiously related to the Farmaajo administration. The Attorney General, a family member of mine, ordered the arrest of Abdishakur, and his case is awaiting trial. It's unfortunate that people died, and that needs to be examined. Bariire was an airstrike ordered by the pentagon, airstrikes are nothing new in Somalia and preceded Farmaajo. I don't remember you blaming Hassan Sheikh for all the biyomaal killed by HG militias in SNA uniforms.

No federal state has broken ties with Farmaajo, unlike during HSM where Puntland and Jubbaland did several times. There is no united voice against the federal govt by the federal states, and foreign affairs is the federal govt's prerogative. Just because UAE paid a few leaders to go against the neutral stance in the gulf by the Farmaajo administration doesn't mean jack shit. In fact, relations with all the states are at it's highest, evidenced by the recent trip. Things are good between the states. Even the UAE has normalized relations with Somalia.

You have yet to show proof of a policy of targeting HG or any other qabil.

I'm done with this topic. Things suck in Somalia but they have always sucked. Farmaajo is not a messiah but nor were any of the other presidents. And he certainly isn't harbinger of destruction you make him out to be.

First of all the murder in Bariire wasn't an air strike though I suppose that would have made Farmaajo and his supporters feel better about dead 13 year olds. It was a ground offensive after wich Farmaajo and his administration tried to get ahead of the story in the media calling the victims terrorists with jubilation until they finally admitted that everyone they murdered including the children was innocent.

Actions of the Farmaajo administration including infringing on political freedoms, violent attacks on civilians and politicians, most of them specifically Habar Gidir, are according to you unrelated to each other and to Farmaajo, the leader of said administration. If lying to yourself makes you sleep better at night go for it.

Tell your relative to return the bodies of the murdered at Abdishakur's back to their families. Bad enough to murder them, desecration of bodies is a whole new low.

[SultanOrder]

Bariire was a US and Somali ground operation. From what I’ve been told it was the US that put pressure on the govt because they didn’t want to be tarnished.

As for Abdishakur the AG wanted to send him a letter to turn himself in, but the police didn’t want that. There was also the risk he would burn any damning evidence. A nighttime raid actually makes sense.

Again you fail to show any policy.

[BVSNet]

Bariire was a US and Somali ground operation. From what I’ve been told it was the US that put pressure on the govt because they didn’t want to be tarnished.

As for Abdishakur the AG wanted to send him a letter to turn himself in, but the police didn’t want that. There was also the risk he would burn any damning evidence. A nighttime raid actually makes sense.

Again you fail to show any policy.

And now you change your story from an airstrike ordered by the pentagon to a ground offensive which Farmaajo's administration was forced into by the US, keep changing your story, whatever it takes to justify the unjustifiable to help you feel better. Nevermind the innocent folks who keep dying at the hands of Farmaajo's government.

Like I said tell your relative to return the dead bodies. There wouldn't have been any if proper process was followed and the house wasn't raided in the middle of the night, which is contrary to the laws of the land and is illegal mind you, but I guess this administration already knew that and did it anyway guns blazing at midnight. But you seek to justify the unjustifiable no matter what. Don't let the evidence interrupt you just tell your family member to do one decent thing and return the bodies of the victims to their families.