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Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:10 am Gallas are by nature savages they kilil in a very inhumane way how ever if they want peace they should be given.peace there is no need for killings with no end abiye Ahmed starts good lets see if he is a true Ethiopian nationalist and not a galla nationalist with ulterior motives to empower his ethnic group against others.I believe he can deliver he has royal amhara blood his wife is amhara and he doesn't hold the believes of jawar or other tribalist olfites. As for ileey is a result of the situation in Ethiopia he has his own special agreement with the tplf. Tplf won't throw him under the bus because they need him

It's hard for me to take you seriously when you are always saying how isaaq should massacre darood civilians. You're the same guy who says fighting darood, who are muslims, is praiseworthy.
It's safe to say, that you're a bit unstable, at the very least.
If the oromo were savage, there wouldn't be over a million tigrayans in our land, living in peace.
Btw, general kamal galchu and other OLF generals are home now, working with abiy, along with other oromo, so cry your heart out because I know that oromo unity hurts you inside. Btw, 40 million people ain't a tribe, they're a nation. And abiy is a proud oromo and ethiopian.
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zidane88 wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:01 am
Waachis wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:54 pm
zidane88 wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:38 pm The colour of Front door has changed doesn't mean the house was changed. :lol: again, good luck if it gives you some sleep, we may see how the things pan out in the future.
You will see tplf gone, abdi gone, and a new Ethiopia. That's what the future holds, InshaaAllah.
TPLF is already slowly vacating the somali region, and that was abdi illey's only ally.
not only that, abdi illey is waving abiy's face on posters, during the last rally in jigjiga,
he wants immunity and to hold his position of power.... :P

One can dream but reality on the ground is different. Wasn't Abiy's first visit in Jigjiga where he even praised Sayid Mohamed Abdule hassan?
If Abdi (head of 10m minority) gives you sleepless nights, how would you cope with rest of Ethiopia who knows your rich culture of blunder, killing, displacing minorities amongst you. Skirmishes happen between those on the borderside as Sou8tere mentioned it, but blaming one side while ignoring the other is childish, and no matter how many proof was presented to you, you keep asking more proof...that itself is madness.
You can paint a positive picture but the reality is different.

1. There's 7 maybe 8 milion somalis in ethiopia, not ten.
2. He's in power due to the tplf support he gets, not because he has the support of the majority of somalis, or even a significant portion, hence the reason why somali elders are openly asking pm abiy to bring abdi to justice, along with the liyyu thugs.
3. Haha, did you miss the rallies in gondar, among the afar, in addis, etc? People love abiy. Even somalis do. Did u not see the rally in jigjiga?
He has amhara, gurage, afar, alot of people behind him. Your wish or dream of seeing the oromo in conflict with their neighbors, is just a dream, that'll never materialize.
4. You never proved top opdo members organized, took part in, or approved of, the killing of civilians.
What did you prove bro. And the liyu did more than raid, they were raping women, burning homes, basically helping tplf weaken the oromo resistance. That is a calculated military operation, meant to advance a political agenda, and that's far beyond mere border skirmishes.
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Gallas won't be in power If they start tribalism and savage behaviour
.amhara somali gurage tigray won't allow The abuse of power. We gave Ahmed abiye The.benefit of the doubt..if he goes out of line he will just be replaced like the other previous admins of Ethiopia remember tigray is in charge not oromo.
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As Khalid already said, if Abiye tries to follow Oromo nationalism ideology he will fail big time. The support he's getting at the moment is that people are expecting change and adherence of rule of law....something his kin are allergic to. As far as Abdi is concerned he enjoys great support among Somalis in kilil5 and doesn't care about few power-hungry corrupted diaspora demonstrating inside Oromo city.
Don't get your hopes high as you can't turn your daydreams into a reality.
It seems that you believe you can't win against EPRDF while Abdi is head of kilil5 hence the constant Abdi this and that, set your priorities to the right channels instead of regurgitating same old nonsense. How long does it take before you realise that he's not going anywhere, and it is only in your head.
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zidane88 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:10 am As Khalid already said, if Abiye tries to follow Oromo nationalism ideology he will fail big time. The support he's getting at the moment is that people are expecting change and adherence of rule of law....something his kin are allergic to. As far as Abdi is concerned he enjoys great support among Somalis in kilil5 and doesn't care about few power-hungry corrupted diaspora demonstrating inside Oromo city.
Don't get your hopes high as you can't turn your daydreams into a reality.
It seems that you believe you can't win against EPRDF while Abdi is head of kilil5 hence the constant Abdi this and that, set your priorities to the right channels instead of regurgitating same old nonsense. How long does it take before you realise that he's not going anywhere, and it is only in your head.
Oromo nationalism, led by Qeerroo, is a big reason why he's in power, in the 1st place.
Qerroo is the one who said we want to contribute to building an united and prosperous Ethiopia.
somalis saying oromos are allergic to the rule of law, is a joke, when you guys massacre each other based on clans, despite all belonging to one religion, having 1 language albeit with different dialects, and looking the same.
that's hilarious bro. your own isaaq brother above was just saying how killing darood is rewardable in Islam and blah blah blah.
LOL
abdi is going to face justice eventually, it was tplf who got him that power, not his people voting for him, or wanting him there.
that which is unjust will not last long, sir.
oromos have no desire to ''win against eprdf,'' but those who committed war crimes, such as abdi, deserves to face justice. and oromos are the ones who paid the biggest price in blood for any changes, small or large, that are being implemented, or planned.
you are only defending him because he's your clans-men. i'm sure he could kill 1,000,000 somalis tomorrow, and you'd still be here staunchly defending him, like the idiot you are.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:26 am Gallas won't be in power If they start tribalism and savage behaviour
.amhara somali gurage tigray won't allow The abuse of power. We gave Ahmed abiye The.benefit of the doubt..if he goes out of line he will just be replaced like the other previous admins of Ethiopia remember tigray is in charge not oromo.
once again, u cannot call 40 million people, a tribe. they're a nation. the tiny isaaq could be a tribe, because my clan alone outnumbers them and has more land and resources than them.
and nationalism has nothing to do with being a savage, unless you let it happen. the same way you would like to build isaaq nationalism on hating darod, even darod babies are enemies to u whose blood is halal, that's savage to me, not oromos wanting to rebuild ethiopia on an equal basis for all.
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Waachis stop moving from one side to the other. The gallas might be 40 million but there is no common galla ancestry some gallas are amhara habasha some are like us Somalis karrayu afranqallo.. The southern gallas have omotic inthem . And the raya Oromo are tigre. Gallas have assimiated and incooperated allot of clans
As for darood and isaaq conflict it's non of your concern you don't play a role in our wars so why comment about it lets talk about the topic here somali oromo relations
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Khalid Ali wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:47 pm Waachis stop moving from one side to the other. The gallas might be 40 million but there is no common galla ancestry some gallas are amhara habasha some are like us Somalis karrayu afranqallo.. The southern gallas have omotic inthem . And the raya Oromo are tigre. Gallas have assimiated and incooperated allot of clans
As for darood and isaaq conflict it's non of your concern you don't play a role in our wars so why comment about it lets talk about the topic here somali oromo relations
Borana and Barentu is their common ancestors, everyone either came from them directly, or were adopted by them/assimilated.
just look at the oromo nationalism movement and protests-it ranged from north in shoa, to south in borana.
just look at when oromos were being displaced by liyyus, oromos from as far as WOLLO sent elders and money to help.
this is OROMUMMA, that you LOVE TO HATE.
Like everyone else, some of the oromo were assimilated into the cultures of their neighbors, while some of them assimilated others.
This is basic human interaction 101. You are not saying anything new or ground-breaking; it's common-sense, a kid would know these things, dude.
I brought up isaaq and darood, to show how much of a hypocrite you are and the double-standards you live according to.
You call oromos savages, while you yourself call ALL DAROOD, even their women and kids, your enemies, and halal to kill.
how is that NOT hypocrisy? how is that NOT SAVAGE?!
when i discuss oromo-somali relations, we mean within ethiopia, where we do not see isaaq, we deal with ogaden, issa and the various dir groups, gurgura, and so on, not isaaq.
isaaq are in an entirely different region/country, far from any oromos, in the first place.
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Clearly you are mistaken to think that oromo is a unified or one ethnic group. Just because you have opdo and some.olf remnant now.waving The 3 different .galla Flag doesn't mean you are United. No one in Ethiopia wants galla rule it's because tigre are scared of amhara. That's why they use galla as a stick against amhara.as it your little chap againdt isaaq. Isaaq is one of the largest somali tribes in east Africa. We live deep inside ethiopia from hawd to harangue to hawadey harar . And in the hawd all the 3 province's In kilil somali we were the only somali we were the prominent ambassador for Ethiopia to the United nations we had 2 president of kilil 5. Maybe you don know Somalis have u ever visited jigjiga diredawa harar hartesheikh in ethiopia I don't think you did you are from Macca clan .you are more related to benishangul and sudani tribes than that you are to Somalis. I think you should focus how you should create better relations with amhara and gurage. Than with Somalis because there is nothing to create for the time.being and abdi ileey isn't going any where any time soon he has his own agreement with the tigrians. And the oromo prime minister cannot go against his tigrian overlords
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They are more united today than ever. More united than Somalis and even Amharas that you idolize, love, and perhaps, worship in your secret shrines in Djibouti City or Hargeisa!
Their unity was predicted to happen by your beloved TPLF in 1991-and history shows that protracted oppression, tends to sharpen an ethnic groups sense of identity! Basically: oppression of an ethnic group, for a prolonged amount of time, tends to make them unite more and more.
Who are you to speak of who wants Oromo rule, when you are not Ethiopian, Isaaq have little to no power in Ethiopia, we know only Ogadens, Issa, Gurgura, and others, and: he is getting major support in Gondar, Addis Ababa, Afars in Semera, and elsewhere? The proof is on the ground.
Despite your anger and anti oromo feelings, the new PM is garnering support from all over the country.
Oromos are not anti Ethiopian, as you said and proposed before, rather, they are against one ethnicity dominating everyone else.
The same way your people were against the darood dominating all the other clans.
I never said isaaq didn't live in ethiopia, but they're not influential, especially in comparison to bigger somali groups, such as ogadens, and issa.
and do not worry abdi illey will be gone, eventually, he is already on the US List of criminals and human rights abusers, and his own somali people are begging the PM to deal with abdi illey, they want him and the liyyu to face justice.
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What has Oromo got to do with Somali region.
Focus on your own regions and capital......we will deal with Iley. :)
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original dervish wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:45 pm What has Oromo got to do with Somali region.
Focus on your own regions and capital......we will deal with Iley. :)
kind sir, when your elders are asking the countries PM, to remove abdi and liyyus, what do you expect him to eventually do?
just ignore the tears of the somali mothers and fathers, to keep a few ogadeni cadres happy? ignore the deplorable human rights situation there?
how selfish of you sir!!
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Waachis no one wants in Ethiopia galla rule you think you are in charge but the Lord's and real shakers and rulers of Ethiopia are tigre and may I remind you don't need to be in millions to rule. All you have to do is have the money and resources and military at your disposal. 14 million Jews keep 400 million Arabs under their foot it's calls sophistication. I think after Ahmed abiye is removed from power you wil go back to your protests of hating Ethiopia and habasha like the gallas have been doing the past 140 years except the shewan gallas who have royal amhara blood. By the way I have an Ethiopian passport citizenship if that means anything I have bussines assets and houses in Ethiopia. Your are oromo stay in your lane Somali kilil and abdi ileey is our concern.
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The fake bravado on the internet is unbelievable, what is preventing Abiye to remove Abdi from power? the answer is he can't as he may face the wrath of kilil5 youth called 'heego' equivalent of 'qeeroo' . so, your next answer, you might negate 'heego' as usual and praise 'qeero'. You have been told here again, and again. It is non of your concern between Somalis, focus on your own Oromo affairs who have the quantity but lacking quality..you're an example of that with your obsession and misplaced priority.
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Waachis beware of messing with Ogaden. It doesn't matter that you outnumber us we will exterminate you. You aren't built for prolonged warfare unlike us.

I am watching Oromo behaviour very carefully and if they try anything we won't hesitate to remove them from this earth. Only the Muzzy Oromos will be spared if they play ball.
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