Re: Can President Cagjar inspire Somalis and build a unity Government?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:30 am
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Bullshit.Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:42 pmSomalinimo ragii sameeyey wa gobta isaaq. It was somaliland that raised the blue flag first, then brought it to xamar. Isaaq were front line fighters in 77 war against Ethiopia. We sacrificed everything we had for somalinimo. In return we got bullets and got bombed by the government. Now there is no such thing as somalinimo every clan is out for their own interests.Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.
Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
SaxxxDjango wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:35 pmBullshit.Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:42 pmSomalinimo ragii sameeyey wa gobta isaaq. It was somaliland that raised the blue flag first, then brought it to xamar. Isaaq were front line fighters in 77 war against Ethiopia. We sacrificed everything we had for somalinimo. In return we got bullets and got bombed by the government. Now there is no such thing as somalinimo every clan is out for their own interests.Django wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:15 am Somalinimo to iidoor means affirmative action.Where iidoor are blindly empowered disproportionalty at the expense of others.Iidoor want to server links with Somalia but want Somali region to serve as the bridge of somalinimo is an irony.
The leader of AS waso nce iidoor and all he brought to the south was death and destruction ensuring that the security of the south was compromised for the ictiraf dream.
The death squad that Godane created and the underground network has shuttered the dreams of Somalinimo.
Charity begins at home let Muse bixi start propagating somalinimo because.SL is home to Dir,Darood and Hawiye.Let hime empower other clans and lest see if he gives Hawiye(fiqi shini) any cabinet posititions.
Iidoor are very hypocritic.They want others to practice somalinimo for the sake of their security and business continuity while their leaders and snet keyboard commandos wish the death and destruction of Somalia.
AW RASTALE go to Hargeisa and say Somalia hanolato.Ina Cagjar is nothing more than a motivational speaker under the control of Abye.He wasnt democratically elected nor has he stopped oromos savagery attack on somali civilians in the border regions especially around babile where somalis keep getting killed and no one lifts a finger.So supporting him just because his wife and mom is iidoor is pure hypocricy.Suppose they were Hawiye or Cise would you support the project.
When cigal was in Somalia govt.I dont knwo premier or ministry of foreign affairs he was spearheading the forfeiting of the somalis in NFD and the Ogaden.
Godane was in power and yet having had massive influnece in the south he reduced it to mere war zone while he siphoned large sums of money he illicitly got from 'taxes'.This money was taken to SL through dahabshil and we all know the Godane family status today they are among the wealthiest.Who knows how much shares they own in Dahabshil or SL telecommunications.
Also Silanyo was in Somalias govt how come iidoor have a blanket hate on Darood regardless of being affiliated to the former regime aka MSB govt while those in power in SL have always been faqash serving MSB.
When C majid was in power in the somali region he used most of his resources,energy and time to try to marginalise Ogaden at all costs.He failed.
Then SL tried all its best to capture ONLF fighters and handinh them over to Meles Zenawi.They made it a custom to mistreat ogaden businessmen in Hargeisa or Berbera by confisicating their merchandise and later jailing them for being ONLF.
Who is majorly responsible for the bombs in Xamar?which remittance company is used by AS to pay for the culprits that detonate explosives in Xamar? Dhiigshil.
So enough of Iidoor crocodile tears.
If tommorrow Ina cagjar is kicked out Iidoor will be celebrating and will be kissing the @ss of the new guy they replace him with.
Its well known SL was complicit in assisting Illey who would arrest ONLF sympathisers in Hargeisa or talked shit about him.My aunty's husband was arrested in hargeisa when he spoke shit about iley.He ended serving 5 years and was recently released when iley was removed.
We are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.
A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.
Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?
Nacasnimada iska dhafa.
If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?
I doubt it.
No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.
Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.
Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.
Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.
So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.
Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.
Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
dont listen tho this loser, his biggest fear is ogadeniya independence thats why he is promoting war between oromo/amxara somali warKismaayo21 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:16 pmWe are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.
A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.
Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?
Nacasnimada iska dhafa.
If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?
I doubt it.
No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.
Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.
Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.
Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.
So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.
Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.
Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
That’s the dream that’s becoming a reality inshallah
My bro, I agree to have a free and fully autonomous Somali region would be a HUGEEE win for all Somalis regardless of clan orientation.Typhoon wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:31 pmdont listen tho this loser, his biggest fear is ogadeniya independence thats why he is promoting war between oromo/amxara somali warKismaayo21 wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:16 pmWe are all up for a strong unified Somalis, powerful and prosperous.AwRastaale wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm I think most of you are missing the point.
A single warrior in the occupied land is not something we should rely on. What's more important is unified nation of warriors. Abdi iley alienated most Somalis and no matter how much of a warrior he was against the Galla and their Amhara masters-----at the end he went down and the vacuum left behind.
Now imagine if Abdi iley had built a united Somali nation in the region and when Ras Abiy came for him, the nation roared. Do you think he would be humiliated today?
Nacasnimada iska dhafa.
If Issa and Ogaden alone can do anything, they would have saved their hero maybe Abdi iley was their hero?
I doubt it.
No matter the size----you have to have your home fortified. Even the small Coptic can take down whole of Egypt if foreign nations today try to exploit it on those bases.
Too many of you guys are blurred by fadhi ku dirir and live on Snet third dimensions.
Peace and tranquility between my people---free to walk, free to trade, mothers living in no state of fear, cameras and media prohibited, Jail Ogaden only means of existence------is what I stood for and against. And I remain that way.
Cagjar is fresh and deserves benefit of the doubt.
So far what's happening in the region is positive and the closure of Jail Ogaden it self shows how brave Cagjar is. I believe people like Zidane and Djano would rather dwell in Jail Ogaden----maybe he doesn't want for himself but he continues to support people who kept those kind of practices in our society.
Long life Cagjar. Good riddance Abdi iley, General Gebre, Getachew and Jail Ogaden.
Some of you nigg4z need fresh air and reality checks. Too much fadhi ku dirir occupy your few brain cells.
That’s the dream that’s becoming a reality inshallah
abiye is on the right track he is not there yet but we welcome his moves, he is ticking alot of my boxes
onlf should not disarm and free and fair election should be held with in 2 years.
ogadeniya is our buffer state eventually i hope to see union between ogadeeniya, djibouti and awdal provinceunless
the biggest obstacle facing ogadeeniya is 2/3 ethiopian parliament vote everything ells is archivable
abiye ahmed needs us more then ever
i believe ogadeniya will be free in the next 10 years, mark my word
Django, Cagjar replaced the federal army with the Liyu-police for peace-keeping (putting Amharas in their place)Django wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:19 pm I class ina Cagjar as being a motivational speaker nothing more.
What tangible changes has he made?
He wasnt even able to reign on Amhara thugs as they brought Jigjiga into stand still he was mere al laughing stock.I mean he couldnt lift a finger all he begged was calmnes what for? Its not like they were peacefully protesting but they showed atmost disgust for the somalis in particular with valour and bravery.How could he accept this nonsense and truely if he was not a puppet how come the EDF sided with this thugs?wasnt he supposed to ran the Kilil and bring order?
Exactly my point. You very much agreed with what I have said. I was opposed to Abdi iley and his guulwade camps having experienced his jahilnimo administration at first hand myself. They didn't do any harm to me but tried to arrest me simply because I came from overseas but their Tigrai superior laughed at them. It was a shock to me.zidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:02 am Aw-raasta, you get me wrong, i'm not opposition of Cagjar but a supporter. The guy listens the concerns of the people unlike his predecessor. As far as Issa and OGs are concerned, no one cared about Abdi Iley's arrest as people supported him in fear. The current head of Liyu-police had been in prison by Iley, and many OGs had been in exile such as Ibraahim dheere (my cousin) who's now adviser of Cagjar, Cali Shucaac, and his son, The ONLF officals etc. The Somalis are forced to unite as reality of Oromo land-expansion looms now.
You forgot to add he started a beef btw Ugas Koshin and reer Amadhin.So far there is one casualty.zidane88 wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:16 amDjango, Cagjar replaced the federal army with the Liyu-police for peace-keeping (putting Amharas in their place)Django wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:19 pm I class ina Cagjar as being a motivational speaker nothing more.
What tangible changes has he made?
He wasnt even able to reign on Amhara thugs as they brought Jigjiga into stand still he was mere al laughing stock.I mean he couldnt lift a finger all he begged was calmnes what for? Its not like they were peacefully protesting but they showed atmost disgust for the somalis in particular with valour and bravery.How could he accept this nonsense and truely if he was not a puppet how come the EDF sided with this thugs?wasnt he supposed to ran the Kilil and bring order?
Ministerial order, not to employ anyone without work-permit (priority for locals)
Fired the corrupt Tigre admin in Jigjiga university (used to take bribes)
Employing the locals (started already in customs) the rest soon will follow
Bring the regional headquarters of telecom and banks in Jigjiga ongoing
What he can't haste is the local land disputes between subclans which needs more careful approach, rather than that he's doing good, and best of all he listens.