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Voltage wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:15 pm Chill out guys. Somalia does not need tribal fights of any kind.

Also JL,SL,PL,Galmudug,SW state,Hirshabelle,Xamar doesn't belong to any clan but any Somali who lived in the State whether Darod, Hawiye, Digle Mirifle, Dir, Isaaq, etc.

Fixed.

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:01 pm https://www.horndiplomat.com/2019/07/01 ... relations/

Does Uhuru really believes recognizing SL would force Somalia to give the offshore to Kenya?

paperino wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:12 pm

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:01 pm https://www.horndiplomat.com/2019/07/01 ... relations/

Does Uhuru really believes recognizing SL would force Somalia to give the offshore to Kenya?

Getting allies might help weaken Somalia.

But how come Villa Somalia has not yet arrested Abdishakur?

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:18 pm But how come Villa Somalia has not yet arrested Abdishakur?

Because Somalia's gov is demonstrating pragmatism and maturity. The benefits of not arresting Abdishakur outweigh his arrest. Arrest could lead to insecurity, inter-fighting, the loss of lives & resources, etc. Afterall, former Hizbul Islam leader and former 2nd/3rd in command of AS aren't in jail, so why should a small fish like Abdishakur be jailed?

paperino wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:04 pm

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:18 pm But how come Villa Somalia has not yet arrested Abdishakur?

Because Somalia's gov is demonstrating pragmatism and maturity. The benefits of not arresting Abdishakur outweigh his arrest. Arrest could lead to insecurity, inter-fighting, the loss of lives & resources, etc. Afterall, former Hizbul Islam leader and former 2nd/3rd in command of AS aren't in jail, so why should a small fish like Abdishakur be jailed?

So the govt should blame Axmed Madhoobe for something Abdishakur created? Was it a ploy?

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:18 pm So the govt should blame Axmed Madhoobe for something Abdishakur created? Was it a ploy?

Personally, I think whatever Abdishakur and others (ina Abdirashid) signed, they were either duped into it or weren't aware of the value of what they were handing. Bear in mind, it happened during a weak transitional gov that Kenya took advantage of.

Axmed Madoobe's model of former warlord and spoiler character isn't sustainable. He is either going to adapt fast and transition to a civilian role who takes a positive & constructive role in rebuilding Somalia, or he won't have a future. He has at the most a few years, give or take.

paperino wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:51 pm

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:18 pm So the govt should blame Axmed Madhoobe for something Abdishakur created? Was it a ploy?

Personally, I think whatever Abdishakur and others (ina Abdirashid) signed, they were either duped into it or weren't aware of the value of what they were handing. Bear in mind, it happened during a weak transitional gov that Kenya took advantage of.

Axmed Madoobe's model of former warlord and spoiler character isn't sustainable. He is either going to adapt fast and transition to a civilian role who takes a positive & constructive role in rebuilding Somalia, or he won't have a future. He has at the most a few years, give or take.

I am not talking about him but using the water to get at him.

This anti Kenya propaganda would die in Xamar once Madhoobe is removed by Kenyans and they instal a Marexan.

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:00 pm I am not talking about him but using the water to get at him.

This anti Kenya propaganda would die in Xamar once Madhoobe is removed by Kenyans and they instal a Marexan.

I don't believe this has to do with removing a certain clan and installing a different one. Somalia (along with the region) is evolving at a fast pace, and Madoobe's model is no longer sustainable. The gov's aim is removing Kenya from JL, not about Kenya removing Madoobe.

paperino wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:26 pm

Django wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:00 pm I am not talking about him but using the water to get at him.

This anti Kenya propaganda would die in Xamar once Madhoobe is removed by Kenyans and they instal a Marexan.

I don't believe this has to do with removing a certain clan and installing a different one. Somalia (along with the region) is evolving at a fast pace, and Madoobe's model is no longer sustainable. The gov's aim is removing Kenya from JL, not about Kenya removing Madoobe.

The govt should remove All AMISOM at the same time.

Not cherry pick who to go and which AMISOM to replace which.

About sustainability the cuerent government is corrupt it hasnt done its job yet all we see is communist style propaganda and media sensation.

Bombs keep exploding outside villa somalia.Mps and ministers are assasinated no one is prosecuted.

Axmed Madhoobe will still be in charge of Kismaayo as long as the agents of corruption in Villa Somalia are present.

You are very hypocritical too you are afraid of Abdishakur to be prosecuted because of the chaos that will follow yet you want Axmed madhoobe to go suppose he riggs the election what can you do? Will they declare aar on him? Or use the water despite and blame it on him while the culprit responsible is siping isbarmuto in Villa Somalia.

Paperino is dropping gems but the locals don’t see it