Kismaayo officially changing from Kenyan To Ethiopian Control

[Voltage]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
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Look at this coffee shop talk based on Irirism about some Dir paper pusher becoming the "new Gebre."

Gabre was a hard core military man who was a Tigray in a Tigray government personally trained by Meles Zenewi to be his spy and eyes and ears in Somalia with infinite resources at his disposal to sow discord among Somali tribes.

Likening some soft Dir civil servant in an already unstable Ethiopian government to Gebre to achieve Iririst aims in Somalia using Ethiopia has got to be the most delusional anti-Darod obsession I have ever seen.

I am completely against Ahmed Madoobe and want the Ethiopians in Kismaayo to detain him and send him on a plane in handcuffs right now.

But aint no Gebre wannabe Irrist minded nobody in Addis Ababa helping me!

lol voltage Ethiopian generals have gone the new face of Ethiopia is the Somali region wich has changed; the federal minister is dir, party chairman is dir and the speaker is dir. This has weakened the OG influence on Somalia and especially JL through the Somali region. It's a fact Farmaajo met shiddo and heard they concentrated on JL and Kenya though he visited to partake the national day. Why they didn't send cagajiir instead of him? Btw I dont believe iririm I only talked about it historically today's Dir and us are not in good terms but you can say we are one of those who benefited from the change in Ethiopia atleast we are no more targeted by the liyu police.

Sxb Shido is a nobody and the Somali dynamic will have changed in Ethiopia when a non-Ogaden becomes leader of the Somali region. The Amxaar in Addis knows this better than you. Everything else is worthless observation

[Django]

Good. Next the Ethiopians should put the terrorist Ahmed Madoobe in handcuffs and send him on a plane to Mogadishu like they did Abu Mansur in Baidoa.

Voltage welcome back my old brother we need your predictions like those in the days you were spot on you remember.

Django why do you like Madoobe to get a 2nd term? He has done nothing!

He is also a complete reer baadiye. I have an extended relative who is part of the USAID mission to Somalia. He said Jubbaland is the biggest target of the US interest in Somalia outside of Mogadishu and USAID s always looking out for the chance to step in.

The first time the mission met Madoobe as Pres of Jubbaland, he was asked for his email to receive more details of some plans the mission had for Kismaayo. This dude looks around dumbfounded and says "war emailkee sheegayaan yaa heysto?"

That's who should be taking Jubbaland to the next level?

Wallahi I do not care about the tribe of the Leader. I actually think it would be completely unfair for a Marehan to get Jubbaland Pres while Somali Pres. Look at Hirshabeele which Abgaal share with Hawadle. No disrespect to Hawadle, but they can't hold a candle to Abgal. If Abgaal didn't have Somali Presidency then, who thinks Hawadle would have assumed Hirshabelle leadership with Abgaal present?

I don't care about the clan of the leader, but Madoobe needs to go. Fartaag is running and he is a Marehan and a reer Diini and a bah-Xawaadle just like I am. Do you think I want him for Jubbaland Pres? Hell naw. He is also a corrupt, greedy, junior warlord. I think the Cawlyahan guy Oomaar is the best pick. He is not Marehan but just as local to Jubbaland as Ogaden/Cawlyahan, educated, reer magaal, respected and has had relationships cultivated with donors and stakeholders as a Federal minister.

Support change sxb and stop the nin jeclaysi.

If this reer badiyo has out smarted and out foxed ilbax marexan what does it tell about marexan.That they are useless scholars lime donkeys loaded with books somaaha ee cebta bananka hasoo digin.

Omaar can be the govonor of Gedo as a starter .let him serve for one or two terms then we can elect him as Jubaland president later.

If madhoobe was reer diini you folks would be singing a different song.No marexan supported him from day one they all opposed and those that supported him were only there to fill their pockets.

As for Farmajo what credentials does he have?wasnt he not an interpreter in Buffallo county.He cant express himself well in both English or Somali his advisors are mostly HAG and old Kacanists marexan who served MSB.
Farmajo was elected through corruption and he has excelled in incompetency.Zero scores in development,security etc its as if his government exists in cyber world.Explosions keep happening but no NISA member has been sacked especially Zakaria.

[Django]

Look at this coffee shop talk based on Irirism about some Dir paper pusher becoming the "new Gebre."

Gabre was a hard core military man who was a Tigray in a Tigray government personally trained by Meles Zenewi to be his spy and eyes and ears in Somalia with infinite resources at his disposal to sow discord among Somali tribes.

Likening some soft Dir civil servant in an already unstable Ethiopian government to Gebre to achieve Iririst aims in Somalia using Ethiopia has got to be the most delusional anti-Darod obsession I have ever seen.

I am completely against Ahmed Madoobe and want the Ethiopians in Kismaayo to detain him and send him on a plane in handcuffs right now.

But aint no Gebre wannabe Irrist minded nobody in Addis Ababa helping me!

lol voltage Ethiopian generals have gone the new face of Ethiopia is the Somali region wich has changed; the federal minister is dir, party chairman is dir and the speaker is dir. This has weakened the OG influence on Somalia and especially JL through the Somali region. It's a fact Farmaajo met shiddo and heard they concentrated on JL and Kenya though he visited to partake the national day. Why they didn't send cagajiir instead of him? Btw I dont believe iririm I only talked about it historically today's Dir and us are not in good terms but you can say we are one of those who benefited from the change in Ethiopia atleast we are no more targeted by the liyu police.

Sxb Shido is a nobody and the Somali dynamic will have changed in Ethiopia when a non-Ogaden becomes leader of the Somali region. The Amxaar in Addis knows this better than you. Everything else is worthless observation

You are spot on.
The only dir that is relevant is Cise and they are eating their cake.
This sahal guy has big hate for Darood . if he became the president of Hirshabells the first project he would do is consrructing a concentration camp for Darood.I wonder where he will find Darod though.Its like building a ship in Beledweyen.

[Voltage]

Voltage welcome back my old brother we need your predictions like those in the days you were spot on you remember.

Django why do you like Madoobe to get a 2nd term? He has done nothing!

He is also a complete reer baadiye. I have an extended relative who is part of the USAID mission to Somalia. He said Jubbaland is the biggest target of the US interest in Somalia outside of Mogadishu and USAID s always looking out for the chance to step in.

The first time the mission met Madoobe as Pres of Jubbaland, he was asked for his email to receive more details of some plans the mission had for Kismaayo. This dude looks around dumbfounded and says "war emailkee sheegayaan yaa heysto?"

That's who should be taking Jubbaland to the next level?

Wallahi I do not care about the tribe of the Leader. I actually think it would be completely unfair for a Marehan to get Jubbaland Pres while Somali Pres. Look at Hirshabeele which Abgaal share with Hawadle. No disrespect to Hawadle, but they can't hold a candle to Abgal. If Abgaal didn't have Somali Presidency then, who thinks Hawadle would have assumed Hirshabelle leadership with Abgaal present?

I don't care about the clan of the leader, but Madoobe needs to go. Fartaag is running and he is a Marehan and a reer Diini and a bah-Xawaadle just like I am. Do you think I want him for Jubbaland Pres? Hell naw. He is also a corrupt, greedy, junior warlord. I think the Cawlyahan guy Oomaar is the best pick. He is not Marehan but just as local to Jubbaland as Ogaden/Cawlyahan, educated, reer magaal, respected and has had relationships cultivated with donors and stakeholders as a Federal minister.

Support change sxb and stop the nin jeclaysi.

If this reer badiyo has out smarted and out foxed ilbax marexan what does it tell about marexan.That they are useless scholars lime donkeys loaded with books somaaha ee cebta bananka hasoo digin.

Omaar can be the govonor of Gedo as a starter .let him serve for one or two terms then we can elect him as Jubaland president later.

If madhoobe was reer diini you folks would be singing a different song.No marexan supported him from day one they all opposed and those that supported him were only there to fill their pockets.

As for Farmajo what credentials does he have?wasnt he not an interpreter in Buffallo county.He cant express himself well in both English or Somali his advisors are mostly HAG and old Kacanists marexan who served MSB.
Farmajo was elected through corruption and he has excelled in incompetency.Zero scores in development,security etc its as if his government exists in cyber world.Explosions keep happening but no NISA member has been sacked especially Zakaria.

It's true no Marehan wanted Madoobe from the beginning and why would they? But it is also true no Ogaden has ever been as good to Marehan than Madoobe!

If Cumar Jees had half the caqli with which Ahmed Madoobe faced Marehan, he would have never had Morgan riding south with Marehan to remove him from Kismaayo!

Ahmed Madoobe is the most ODAY of odayaal. He knows how to please, cajole, and stroke heads. Ahmed Madoobe will always shake the Marehan hand before the Ogaden had.

He took Marehan from open rebellion and complete refusal of Jubbaland to recognition and even acceptance of the State under his leadership even if some did not like him being at the head.

I continue to say to Marehan, Ahmed Madoobe was the best non-Marehan to be at the head of Jubbaland at that time. I don't see any other guy who would have had Marehan recognize and accept the State unless they led the formation.

However, the foundation is built and from the Bajuni Islands to Dollow on the Ethiopian border, Jubbaland's base is strong with recognition of the State throughout the lands the Jubba river runs.

Now it is time to move to the next stage and Madoobe is not the leader for that.

It's simple as that.

[Django]

Voltage I know madhoobe has done shit for JL just like
Farmajo has done shit for JL.

The money he is bribing to secure a presidential favourite would have better been used to buikd a hospital in Beled xaawo or Bardheere.He is spendin millions of dollars.He has done that in various places to in Somalia.
So what legacy will farmajo leave when he leaves officw that he attempted to dismantle JL.Reminds me of thw saying of Donald Rumsfeld when he said "In order to save the village we had to destroy it"

That is what precisely Farmajo is doing he is abusing his office to make his clan dorminate Kismaayo like back in hiraale days but the dorminant force in JL is AS and Farmajo has burried his head in the sand in regards to it.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Madobe has empowered the local Gedo clans over the Goboleed Dhexe MX. For that I have eternal respect for the Sheikh. Now we have to develop the state. The era of the civil war is over bro. I agree with Voltage on that.

[Django]

Django why do you like Madoobe to get a 2nd term? He has done nothing!

He is also a complete reer baadiye. I have an extended relative who is part of the USAID mission to Somalia. He said Jubbaland is the biggest target of the US interest in Somalia outside of Mogadishu and USAID s always looking out for the chance to step in.

The first time the mission met Madoobe as Pres of Jubbaland, he was asked for his email to receive more details of some plans the mission had for Kismaayo. This dude looks around dumbfounded and says "war emailkee sheegayaan yaa heysto?"

That's who should be taking Jubbaland to the next level?

Wallahi I do not care about the tribe of the Leader. I actually think it would be completely unfair for a Marehan to get Jubbaland Pres while Somali Pres. Look at Hirshabeele which Abgaal share with Hawadle. No disrespect to Hawadle, but they can't hold a candle to Abgal. If Abgaal didn't have Somali Presidency then, who thinks Hawadle would have assumed Hirshabelle leadership with Abgaal present?

I don't care about the clan of the leader, but Madoobe needs to go. Fartaag is running and he is a Marehan and a reer Diini and a bah-Xawaadle just like I am. Do you think I want him for Jubbaland Pres? Hell naw. He is also a corrupt, greedy, junior warlord. I think the Cawlyahan guy Oomaar is the best pick. He is not Marehan but just as local to Jubbaland as Ogaden/Cawlyahan, educated, reer magaal, respected and has had relationships cultivated with donors and stakeholders as a Federal minister.

Support change sxb and stop the nin jeclaysi.

If this reer badiyo has out smarted and out foxed ilbax marexan what does it tell about marexan.That they are useless scholars lime donkeys loaded with books somaaha ee cebta bananka hasoo digin.

Omaar can be the govonor of Gedo as a starter .let him serve for one or two terms then we can elect him as Jubaland president later.

If madhoobe was reer diini you folks would be singing a different song.No marexan supported him from day one they all opposed and those that supported him were only there to fill their pockets.

As for Farmajo what credentials does he have?wasnt he not an interpreter in Buffallo county.He cant express himself well in both English or Somali his advisors are mostly HAG and old Kacanists marexan who served MSB.
Farmajo was elected through corruption and he has excelled in incompetency.Zero scores in development,security etc its as if his government exists in cyber world.Explosions keep happening but no NISA member has been sacked especially Zakaria.

It's true no Marehan wanted Madoobe from the beginning and why would they? But it is also true no Ogaden has ever been as good to Marehan than Madoobe!

If Cumar Jees had half the caqli with which Ahmed Madoobe faced Marehan, he would have never had Morgan riding south with Marehan to remove him from Kismaayo!

Ahmed Madoobe is the most ODAY of odayaal. He knows how to please, cajole, and stroke heads. Ahmed Madoobe will always shake the Marehan hand before the Ogaden had.

He took Marehan from open rebellion and complete refusal of Jubbaland to recognition and even acceptance of the State under his leadership even if some did not like him being at the head.

I continue to say to Marehan, Ahmed Madoobe was the best non-Marehan to be at the head of Jubbaland at that time. I don't see any other guy who would have had Marehan recognize and accept the State unless they led the formation.

However, the foundation is built and from the Bajuni Islands to Dollow on the Ethiopian border, Jubbaland's base is strong with recognition of the State throughout the lands the Jubba river runs.

Now it is time to move to the next stage and Madoobe is not the leader for that.

It's simple as that.

How can I beleive you when you supported JVA for 9 years.Jubba Valley alliance not.much different from Jubbaland.
In blackie time AS is the biggest threat.There was no threat facing Hiraale apart from incompetence.While Marexan were following him like a messiah.
So what changes will the same marexan who followed their shepard Hiraale will bring a difference?
They are currently in Farmajos wing giving him hawkish policies towards JL.

Farmajo will be kicked out soon this is probably his last term so will he be remembered as the guy that dismantled JL?

[Django]

Django why do you like Madoobe to get a 2nd term? He has done nothing!

He is also a complete reer baadiye. I have an extended relative who is part of the USAID mission to Somalia. He said Jubbaland is the biggest target of the US interest in Somalia outside of Mogadishu and USAID s always looking out for the chance to step in.

The first time the mission met Madoobe as Pres of Jubbaland, he was asked for his email to receive more details of some plans the mission had for Kismaayo. This dude looks around dumbfounded and says "war emailkee sheegayaan yaa heysto?"

That's who should be taking Jubbaland to the next level?

Wallahi I do not care about the tribe of the Leader. I actually think it would be completely unfair for a Marehan to get Jubbaland Pres while Somali Pres. Look at Hirshabeele which Abgaal share with Hawadle. No disrespect to Hawadle, but they can't hold a candle to Abgal. If Abgaal didn't have Somali Presidency then, who thinks Hawadle would have assumed Hirshabelle leadership with Abgaal present?

I don't care about the clan of the leader, but Madoobe needs to go. Fartaag is running and he is a Marehan and a reer Diini and a bah-Xawaadle just like I am. Do you think I want him for Jubbaland Pres? Hell naw. He is also a corrupt, greedy, junior warlord. I think the Cawlyahan guy Oomaar is the best pick. He is not Marehan but just as local to Jubbaland as Ogaden/Cawlyahan, educated, reer magaal, respected and has had relationships cultivated with donors and stakeholders as a Federal minister.

Support change sxb and stop the nin jeclaysi.

If this reer badiyo has out smarted and out foxed ilbax marexan what does it tell about marexan.That they are useless scholars lime donkeys loaded with books somaaha ee cebta bananka hasoo digin.

Omaar can be the govonor of Gedo as a starter .let him serve for one or two terms then we can elect him as Jubaland president later.

If madhoobe was reer diini you folks would be singing a different song.No marexan supported him from day one they all opposed and those that supported him were only there to fill their pockets.

As for Farmajo what credentials does he have?wasnt he not an interpreter in Buffallo county.He cant express himself well in both English or Somali his advisors are mostly HAG and old Kacanists marexan who served MSB.
Farmajo was elected through corruption and he has excelled in incompetency.Zero scores in development,security etc its as if his government exists in cyber world.Explosions keep happening but no NISA member has been sacked especially Zakaria.

It's true no Marehan wanted Madoobe from the beginning and why would they? But it is also true no Ogaden has ever been as good to Marehan than Madoobe!

If Cumar Jees had half the caqli with which Ahmed Madoobe faced Marehan, he would have never had Morgan riding south with Marehan to remove him from Kismaayo!

Ahmed Madoobe is the most ODAY of odayaal. He knows how to please, cajole, and stroke heads. Ahmed Madoobe will always shake the Marehan hand before the Ogaden had.

He took Marehan from open rebellion and complete refusal of Jubbaland to recognition and even acceptance of the State under his leadership even if some did not like him being at the head.

I continue to say to Marehan, Ahmed Madoobe was the best non-Marehan to be at the head of Jubbaland at that time. I don't see any other guy who would have had Marehan recognize and accept the State unless they led the formation.

However, the foundation is built and from the Bajuni Islands to Dollow on the Ethiopian border, Jubbaland's base is strong with recognition of the State throughout the lands the Jubba river runs.

Now it is time to move to the next stage and Madoobe is not the leader for that.

It's simple as that.

How can I beleive you when you supported JVA for 9 years.Jubba Valley alliance not.much different from Jubbaland.
In blackie time AS is the biggest threat.There was no threat facing Hiraale apart from incompetence.While Marexan were following him like a messiah.
So what changes will the same marexan who followed their shepard Hiraale will bring a difference?
They are currently in Farmajos wing giving him hawkish policies towards JL.

Farmajo will be kicked out soon this is probably his last term so will he be remembered as the guy that dismantled JL?

Voltage during Jess time the game was completely different you folks had just freshly committed attrocities in juboyinka using government backed talxa militia.You are lucky that He as MZ did not cross over to Bardheere to square out the difference.Gabyow was ok with marexan talking cawliyahan farms in bardheere which they still posses.
But for Kismaayo MZ will never relinquish its claim.We will come back to what is ours even if Cascasey introduced you lads to Kismaayo.Its like you compromising on Beled xawo being a shared degaan with Ogaden would you tolerate?Ogaden tolerated Marexan in Kismaayo out of Daroodnimo.But it seems you love to share Kismaayo only with Ceyr.Something that alot of Ogaden fail to understand.

[Voltage]

Voltage I know madhoobe has done shit for JL just like
Farmajo has done shit for JL.

The money he is bribing to secure a presidential favourite would have better been used to buikd a hospital in Beled xaawo or Bardheere.He is spendin millions of dollars.He has done that in various places to in Somalia.
So what legacy will farmajo leave when he leaves officw that he attempted to dismantle JL.Reminds me of thw saying of Donald Rumsfeld when he said "In order to save the village we had to destroy it"

That is what precisely Farmajo is doing he is abusing his office to make his clan dorminate Kismaayo like back in hiraale days but the dorminant force in JL is AS and Farmajo has burried his head in the sand in regards to it.

Sxb, the beauty of Federalism is local matters become more important and take precedence over national issues.

I am more invested in the Jubbaland leadership than I am Farmaajo. I don't care if Farmaajo achieves jack crap as long as the Jubbaland Pres is feeding and developing reer Jubbaland which Marehan are part of!

Also you completely are unfair to Farmaajo on thr tribalism part and wanting his clan to dominate Kismaayo. First of this guy was beezaani/ciyaalka xaafada in Xamar then spent a long time in the US. He doesn't even know Marehan or particularly cares for tribalism.

Do you know how many Marehans I have heard say Farmaajo is a "nacas" because he doesn't play the SHAXAAD game for every Marehan that goes to him? And it is well known this guy's candidate is his good friend and minister, Oomaar, who is Ogaden!

[Voltage]

Madobe has empowered the local Gedo clans over the Goboleed Dhexe MX. For that I have eternal respect for the Sheikh. Now we have to develop the state. The era of the civil war is over bro. I agree with Voltage on that.

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!

[Django]

Voltage I know madhoobe has done shit for JL just like
Farmajo has done shit for JL.

The money he is bribing to secure a presidential favourite would have better been used to buikd a hospital in Beled xaawo or Bardheere.He is spendin millions of dollars.He has done that in various places to in Somalia.
So what legacy will farmajo leave when he leaves officw that he attempted to dismantle JL.Reminds me of thw saying of Donald Rumsfeld when he said "In order to save the village we had to destroy it"

That is what precisely Farmajo is doing he is abusing his office to make his clan dorminate Kismaayo like back in hiraale days but the dorminant force in JL is AS and Farmajo has burried his head in the sand in regards to it.

Sxb, the beauty of Federalism is local matters become more important and take precedence over national issues.

I am more invested in the Jubbaland leadership than I am Farmaajo. I don't care if Farmaajo achieves jack crap as long as the Jubbaland Pres is feeding and developing reer Jubbaland which Marehan are part of!

Also you completely are unfair to Farmaajo on thr tribalism part and wanting his clan to dominate Kismaayo. First of this guy was beezaani/ciyaalka xaafada in Xamar then spent a long time in the US. He doesn't even know Marehan or particularly cares for tribalism.

Do you know how many Marehans I have heard say Farmaajo is a "nacas" because he doesn't play the SHAXAAD game for every Marehan that goes to him? And it is well known this guy's candidate is his good friend and minister, Oomaar, who is Ogaden!

Farmajondoes not give shaxad to his kins just like madhoobe does not give shaxad to his kins they are equal on this.
Also in regards to development both have done nothing tangible but at least there is no AMISOM guarding him in Villa Kismaayo. AMISOM guard the ports only in Kismaayo.

What I ask myseld is marexan under JVA for 9 years shared nothing with Ogaden like as if we didnt exist but you folks were comfortable with Ceyr even though they had upperhand.
For madhoobes case You folks ran the airport and second in command in the Kismaayo port and have ministers and representations yet you want more which can be defined as wanting the JVA make up of sharing zero with Ogaden.

Omar is a puppet you wanted to use him to climb the ladder and dump him once the threat of Axmed is out and after you sent most of Jubbaland forces to Xamar.Its like JVA 2.

[Django]

Madobe has empowered the local Gedo clans over the Goboleed Dhexe MX. For that I have eternal respect for the Sheikh. Now we have to develop the state. The era of the civil war is over bro. I agree with Voltage on that.

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!

Madhoobe used Kenya to topple AS in Kismaayo who had it on lock for 5 years.Even your folks were made to eat hyenas.

Then Madhoobe came and gave you second position in command radamir.what did you guys do under shirdone.
Recalled the retired Hiraale back to xamar and plotted on how to topple him.Its marexan that started war against madhoobe after he compromised alot.Then when he dealt with youfolks. you cried foul as if this was the first encounter between Madhoobe and Hiraale you folks forgot the Buale battle where there was no KDF.

Infact he has been very generous to reer diini till he found out that they are insatiable.
That is the reason why he went for reer xassan who are more in number than reer diini.

Madhoobe has neglected ogaden in his 7 yrs of power.Had there been no AS,HAG,Marexan Ogaden clans would have rebelled against his rule.But we will not pick up arms against him for the sake of AS,HAG aor Marexan.

[Voltage]

But for Kismaayo MZ will never relinquish its claim.We will come back to what is ours even if Cascasey introduced you lads to Kismaayo.Its like you compromising on Beled xawo being a shared degaan with Ogaden would you tolerate?Ogaden tolerated Marexan in Kismaayo out of Daroodnimo.But it seems you love to share Kismaayo only with Ceyr.Something that alot of Ogaden fail to understand.

I didn't even see this part, comparing Kismaayo to Mohamed Subeer like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan.

Waryaa, that's the KDF xiniinyo making you speak like that. Don't abuse my reconciliation minded overtures hadii kale you damn well know our stick is always in my other hand.

You used to bring milk to Kismaayo from the baadiye. When has Kismaayo ever been synonymous with MZ? Lo'daada and caano is the most you have known Kismaayo until Cumar Jees got some guns from Caydiid to arm your Joore and your claim began. Even the Cabdalla in Masalani near Gaaris will today say I am from Kismaayo indho adeega

At least the Majeerteen can say they used to live heavily in Kismaayo before the war though they will never admit most of them moved there during the Abdirashiid Ali Shermarke years. However you never see a Majeerteen claiming Kismaayo today for good measure.

I want reconciliation and to move on because I know if reconciliation doesn't happen, even if KDF is there for 100 years in Kismaayo, the day Kenya leaves Marehan will brandish arms and fight AND take over Kismaayo.

If you think Kismaayo to you is like Beled-Xaawo to Marehan, Wallahi oo Billahi Kismaayo to Marehan is Jerusalem to Jews. Even after a 2000 years if KDF is still there, we will always say next EID in Kismaayo and the day the KDF leaves our flag will be flown there like the Jewish flag in Jerusalem after 2000 years.

All this is reconciliation ovetures is so we can BOTH share the city and live and share it with all the other Jubbaland tribes.

Do not abuse that reconciliation overture by trying to say what you said above ever again!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Madobe has empowered the local Gedo clans over the Goboleed Dhexe MX. For that I have eternal respect for the Sheikh. Now we have to develop the state. The era of the civil war is over bro. I agree with Voltage on that.

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!

I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm the same jiffo hoose as the Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. The wax magartay of my clan don't see this strategy. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handed approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!

[Django]

Madobe has empowered the local Gedo clans over the Goboleed Dhexe MX. For that I have eternal respect for the Sheikh. Now we have to develop the state. The era of the civil war is over bro. I agree with Voltage on that.

Django THIS is the game Madoobe played. He used every strategy to disarm Marehan and then bring them to the table. He used reer Diini vs. non reer Diini. He used galti (new migrants) vs. guri (older migrants). He used north Gedo vs. south Gedo. Even reer Diini he used bah-Xawaadle vs. bah-Ogaadeen!

Saddam is the biggest anti-Madoobe guy here but his reer Hassan Ugaas is the biggest Madoobe supporter among the Marehan salaadiin!

Madoobe did his part. He put recognition to the State as is.

We have to move to the next stage now sxb!

We needs hospitals refurbished, build roads, bring big business to Kismaayo port, work on farmland, etc!

I detest Madobe for the simple fact he divided my clan against each other in the same time united his! That shows his level of fear and lack of respect for MX in general. I'm same the jiffo hoose as The Ugaas after Reer Yusuf. But I still oppose Madobe and his heavy handedness approach and his breaking of dhaqanka sojiran for Ugaas Xashi. It created colaad between brothers. A united Beesha can move mountains. Ahmed Mohamed Islam knew that!

Maxamed siyab barre used to do the same too for 21 years.
Hiraale did it too
You also have been in the record trying to divide ogaden so why complain.

Werent you the one that claimed Ogaden only live in Afmadow in Juboyinka but apparently you are for reer diini Cawliyahan alliance as Cawliyahan is the majority Ogaden in juboyinka.
So following your logic its self conflicting because
Afmadow is predominantly MZ so if Ogaden live only in Afmadow where do Cawliyahan live.