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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 pm Voltage,

Listen to me and listen to me well. If you wanna get personal, I'll go there. The reason Kismayo isn't in hands of MX is due to the incompetence of Reer Diini and their greed that give a opening to our enemies. You think Madoobe can stay in Jubbaland with Talxe, Reer Xassan, and Reer Ahmed having ciidan? IDGAF about my mother and or my ayeeyo being Puntlanders. I'm a descendant of Mareexaan, gar ahan Beesha Xassan Gaalshiredle. They will say my hooyo abtirsi in my burial. But in this life I'm Mareexaan and anybody or anyone against my interest is a threat and will be dealt with. I supported Farmaajo due to me knowing the fact he'll won't give me one Ambassadorship or Wasir Federaal. It isn't Reer Diini getting bombed on and running away from KDF or AS. It's Soonfure, Hawrarsame, Reer Xassan and Cali Dheere that's fleeing to Xamar. Don't patronize me or talk to me about Daroodnimo. When it's the same Darood supporting my dulmi for the actions of MSB (AUN). I take that on chin out of Mareexaanimo. I had other Darood especially Ogaden brag to my face that'll they take my land in Buurdhubo with the help of KDF. Darood ana waso. I'm MX first. IDGAF about Darood or Somaliweyn. I care for the well being of my clan and their interests. I'm open about it. I have the manpower to stand on it.

I detest Madobe for breaking MX unity and pitting us against each other. Laakin, you idiots gave him fuel by not doing anything for the region while Farmaajo is in office. So please. I'm more dacaad and MX than you. I want my lands developed and midnimo of MX.

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:58 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 pm Voltage,

Listen to me and listen to me well. If you wanna get personal, I'll go there. The reason Kismayo isn't in hands of MX is due to the incompetence of Reer Diini and their greed that give a opening to our enemies. You think Madoobe can stay in Jubbaland with Talxe, Reer Xassan, and Reer Ahmed having ciidan? IDGAF about my mother and or my ayeeyo being Puntlanders. I'm a descendant of Mareexaan, gar ahan Beesha Xassan Gaalshiredle. They will say my hooyo abtirsi in my burial. But in this life I'm Mareexaan and anybody or anyone against my interest is a threat and will be dealt with. I supported Farmaajo due to me knowing the fact he'll won't give me one Ambassadorship or Wasir Federaal. It isn't Reer Diini getting bombed on and running away from KDF or AS. It's Soonfure, Hawrarsame, Reer Xassan and Cali Dheere that's fleeing to Xamar. Don't patronize me or talk to me about Daroodnimo. When it's the same Darood supporting my dulmi for the actions of MSB (AUN). I take that on chin out of Mareexaanimo. I had other Darood especially Ogaden brag to my face that'll they take my land in Buurdhubo with the help of KDF. Darood ana waso. I'm MX first. IDGAF about Darood or Somaliweyn. I care for the well being of my clan and their interests. I'm open about it. I have the manpower to stand on it.

I detest Madobe for breaking MX unity and pitting us against each other. Laakin, you idiots gave him fuel by not doing anything for the region while Farmaajo is in office. So please. I'm more dacaad and MX than you. I want my lands developed and midnimo of MX.

Your reer xassan right? Wasnt your Ugas yarow supporting Madoobe? Why are their pro Madoobe forces in Doloow? Fix your backyard.

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:58 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 pm Voltage,

Listen to me and listen to me well. If you wanna get personal, I'll go there. The reason Kismayo isn't in hands of MX is due to the incompetence of Reer Diini and their greed that give a opening to our enemies. You think Madoobe can stay in Jubbaland with Talxe, Reer Xassan, and Reer Ahmed having ciidan? IDGAF about my mother and or my ayeeyo being Puntlanders. I'm a descendant of Mareexaan, gar ahan Beesha Xassan Gaalshiredle. They will say my hooyo abtirsi in my burial. But in this life I'm Mareexaan and anybody or anyone against my interest is a threat and will be dealt with. I supported Farmaajo due to me knowing the fact he'll won't give me one Ambassadorship or Wasir Federaal. It isn't Reer Diini getting bombed on and running away from KDF or AS. It's Soonfure, Hawrarsame, Reer Xassan and Cali Dheere that's fleeing to Xamar. Don't patronize me or talk to me about Daroodnimo. When it's the same Darood supporting my dulmi for the actions of MSB (AUN). I take that on chin out of Mareexaanimo. I had other Darood especially Ogaden brag to my face that'll they take my land in Buurdhubo with the help of KDF. Darood ana waso. I'm MX first. IDGAF about Darood or Somaliweyn. I care for the well being of my clan and their interests. I'm open about it. I have the manpower to stand on it.

I detest Madobe for breaking MX unity and pitting us against each other. Laakin, you idiots gave him fuel by not doing anything for the region while Farmaajo is in office. So please. I'm more dacaad and MX than you. I want my lands developed and midnimo of MX.

Your reer xassan right? Wasnt your Ugas yarow supporting Madoobe? Why are their pro Madoobe forces in Doloow? Fix your backyard.

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:05 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:58 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 pm Voltage,

Listen to me and listen to me well. If you wanna get personal, I'll go there. The reason Kismayo isn't in hands of MX is due to the incompetence of Reer Diini and their greed that give a opening to our enemies. You think Madoobe can stay in Jubbaland with Talxe, Reer Xassan, and Reer Ahmed having ciidan? IDGAF about my mother and or my ayeeyo being Puntlanders. I'm a descendant of Mareexaan, gar ahan Beesha Xassan Gaalshiredle. They will say my hooyo abtirsi in my burial. But in this life I'm Mareexaan and anybody or anyone against my interest is a threat and will be dealt with. I supported Farmaajo due to me knowing the fact he'll won't give me one Ambassadorship or Wasir Federaal. It isn't Reer Diini getting bombed on and running away from KDF or AS. It's Soonfure, Hawrarsame, Reer Xassan and Cali Dheere that's fleeing to Xamar. Don't patronize me or talk to me about Daroodnimo. When it's the same Darood supporting my dulmi for the actions of MSB (AUN). I take that on chin out of Mareexaanimo. I had other Darood especially Ogaden brag to my face that'll they take my land in Buurdhubo with the help of KDF. Darood ana waso. I'm MX first. IDGAF about Darood or Somaliweyn. I care for the well being of my clan and their interests. I'm open about it. I have the manpower to stand on it.

I detest Madobe for breaking MX unity and pitting us against each other. Laakin, you idiots gave him fuel by not doing anything for the region while Farmaajo is in office. So please. I'm more dacaad and MX than you. I want my lands developed and midnimo of MX.

Your reer xassan right? Wasnt your Ugas yarow supporting Madoobe? Why are their pro Madoobe forces in Doloow? Fix your backyard.

Uh excuse me dude, you needed someone to call you out a long time ago. You do not need to exercerbate every situation you see and engage in this internal tit for tat.

To be honest, much of what Saddam has said has merit. Reer Diini have in fact functioned as a destabilizing force that has the biggest role in the situation that led to this although Saddam is exaggerating things and totally overlooking the rise of terrorism and foreign troops.

In any case, WHY do you need to attack him every time he opens his mouth to air some of the frustration that is real and felt by many corners of Marehan. There is no need for you to run at him every time.

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:05 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:58 pm

Your reer xassan right? Wasnt your Ugas yarow supporting Madoobe? Why are their pro Madoobe forces in Doloow? Fix your backyard.

Uh excuse me dude, you needed someone to call you out a long time ago. You do not need to exercerbate every situation you see and engage in this internal tit for tat.

To be honest, much of what Saddam has said has merit. Reer Diini have in fact functioned as a destabilizing force that has the biggest role in the situation that led to this although Saddam is exaggerating things and totally overlooking the rise of terrorism and foreign troops.

In any case, WHY do you need to attack him every time he opens his mouth to air some of the frustration that is real and felt by many corners of Marehan. There is no need for you to run at him every time.

Okay, I apologize, but what leaders have these clans produced that I can have faith in, Indhokooreey? Maxamed Sayid Adan? Col Cabbas? Name one person I should support. I would love to support them!

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:20 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:05 pm

Uh excuse me dude, you needed someone to call you out a long time ago. You do not need to exercerbate every situation you see and engage in this internal tit for tat.

To be honest, much of what Saddam has said has merit. Reer Diini have in fact functioned as a destabilizing force that has the biggest role in the situation that led to this although Saddam is exaggerating things and totally overlooking the rise of terrorism and foreign troops.

In any case, WHY do you need to attack him every time he opens his mouth to air some of the frustration that is real and felt by many corners of Marehan. There is no need for you to run at him every time.

Okay, I apologize, but what leaders have these clans produced that I can have faith in, Indhokooreey? Maxamed Sayid Adan? Col Cabbas? Name one person I should support. I would love to support them!

And reer Diini produced Fartaag who was the first to go under Madobe and name him first VP.

The point is I think this sub-clannish talk is too insular and shortsighted. There is a bigger issue involved with coastal waters, diplomatic disagreements between governments, and the ability of foreign troops to behave.

These things are more important than discussing subclannish tit for tat that will not make a single difference in Jubbaland as long as Kenyan troops are acting like an occupation force.

So let's raise the conversation up is my last note to both of you.

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:15 pm Ah Saddam,that's the fudaydnimo I described. The same fudayd that caused you to start this topic caused you to shoot from the hip at even us!

Listen Saddam, there is not a single thing I am not aware of within Marehan. Not a single thing. What you described is not new and and goes back to Al Itihad days. Many of the grievances you listed against reer Diini are valid and recently I have seen a number of them even acknowledge the validity of thise grievances. In general, this is neither the place nor the time and inshallah some real conversations are starting about the issues you discussed. That's my 2 cents on this.

Generally I will say do not be rash and be more measured in general. That's my only advice.

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:23 pm

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:20 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Okay, I apologize, but what leaders have these clans produced that I can have faith in, Indhokooreey? Maxamed Sayid Adan? Col Cabbas? Name one person I should support. I would love to support them!

And reer Diini produced Fartaag who was the first to go under Madobe and name him first VP.

The point is I think this sub-clannish talk is too insular and shortsighted. There is a bigger issue involved with coastal waters, diplomatic disagreements between governments, and the ability of foreign troops to behave.

These things are more important than discussing subclannish tit for tat that will not make a single difference in Jubbaland as long as Kenyan troops are acting like an occupation force.

So let's raise the conversation up is my last note to both of you.

You are right sxb, but the division is killing us, Beesha Sade needs kala dambayn, you never see other MJs challenge Maxamed Saleebaan or OG challenge Rer Abdille, even the Prophet SAW taught that every group needs a leader.

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:23 pm

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:20 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Okay, I apologize, but what leaders have these clans produced that I can have faith in, Indhokooreey? Maxamed Sayid Adan? Col Cabbas? Name one person I should support. I would love to support them!

And reer Diini produced Fartaag who was the first to go under Madobe and name him first VP.

The point is I think this sub-clannish talk is too insular and shortsighted. There is a bigger issue involved with coastal waters, diplomatic disagreements between governments, and the ability of foreign troops to behave.

These things are more important than discussing subclannish tit for tat that will not make a single difference in Jubbaland as long as Kenyan troops are acting like an occupation force.

So let's raise the conversation up is my last note to both of you.

You are right sxb, but the division is killing us, Beesha Sade needs kala dambayn, you never see other MJs challenge Maxamed Saleebaan or OG challenge Rer Abdille, even the Prophet SAW taught that every group needs a leader.

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:32 pm

grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:23 pm

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:20 pm

And reer Diini produced Fartaag who was the first to go under Madobe and name him first VP.

The point is I think this sub-clannish talk is too insular and shortsighted. There is a bigger issue involved with coastal waters, diplomatic disagreements between governments, and the ability of foreign troops to behave.

These things are more important than discussing subclannish tit for tat that will not make a single difference in Jubbaland as long as Kenyan troops are acting like an occupation force.

So let's raise the conversation up is my last note to both of you.

You are right sxb, but the division is killing us, Beesha Sade needs kala dambayn, you never see other MJs challenge Maxamed Saleebaan or OG challenge Rer Abdille, even the Prophet SAW taught that every group needs a leader.

May God help you.

Saddam, if you have a single iota of self control, I would advise you to not take this clear provocation that is clearly meant to instigate a cyber battle.

The reality is Grandpa claims reer Dalal and there is not a single reer Dalal village in Jubbaland.

As someone who is reer Siyaad and even shares Garbahaaray district with reer Yusuf of reer Hassan and even had war one time between reer Siyaad and reer Yusuf, I will be the first to recognize your position, your concerns, as well as the principal importance you have.

I advice you to ignore it.

Voltage wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:42 pm

knet wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:37 pm Marehan got out played the moment they saw MJ making OG king in Jubbland, you guys should have realized we have turned it into a Kablalax project! Harti is solid in Kismayo and get what they want without question, Marehan cant be trusted to delivery as they have become Hawiye tool or who ever their new master is.

SBoq sxb, meesha edeb ku joog. I don't see any Marehan that has a problem with MJs or Kablalax in the land, like I said I would personally invite you to Baardheere and Beled-Xaawo let along Kismaayo, but the reality is Jubbaland is a Sade domain chief among all Somali clans and it WILL reflect that reality when Buhuko and Bahako are removed back to Kenya!