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Re: Lower shabelle

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Mk777 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:14 pm
AbdiWahab252 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:06 pm Jabuutawi the same logic which exports Ciise out of Ethiopian to take over Afar land in Djibouti. The days of oppressing the Afar and Oromo are numbered. Did you ever manage to reclaim the land seized by the Eritrean Girl Scouts? The only part of the French military training Djibouti learned was how to retreat.

MK77, Marka is a multi clan city. The Biimaal decided to seize the city and marginalize nonBimaals. Unfortunately they overplayed their hand when they picked on the HG. They thought that HG were like the Tumaal Jareer and others they oppressed for years. No wonder the nonBimaal clans are quite supportive of the HG rather than live under Biimaal oppression. Remember this is the clan that used to be slave traders, demand clans pay to use the river for watering.
All somalis were slave traders sxb but the part about the water is regrettable. Were u HG present in lower shabelle before 1991 in marka in numbers ? I know abdullahi ciise AUN was born in Afgooye in 1921
Don't tell me you fell for that? :comeon:

The Nigga sells you a downright lie. Yes, the Biimaal were slave owners hence why all the Bantus in Marka District identify with the Biimaal clan, but that goes for every major clan in Lower Shabelle that had plantations before colonialism such as the Geledi of Afgooye.

Secondly, after the emancipation of slaves by the Italians, the Bantus were no longer under the direct ownership of the Biimaal, and as a matter of fact, guess who abused them by using them as cheap labour after fall of the Kacaan Regime? Who else but the Red Eyed militiamen from Galmudug. Contrary to what some people think, many of the proper Biimaal are still nomads hence why AS decided to punish them by stealing their livestock when they refused to stop fighting, and for cooperating with Amisom. Along with some Biimaal, it is the Bantus that identify as Biimaal Jareer who mainly settle in riverside towns such as Shalanbood and Janaale. Recently, the Mooryaans even cooperated with AS to kill the Bantu DC of Janaale yet our resident Mooryaan has the cheek to accuse Biimaal of oppressing Bantus.

The killing of then District Commissioner (DC) of Janale, Garad Ibrahim Sid Ali, in early
August, also occurred in unclear circumstances. A Biomaal Bantu recently returned from
diaspora, the DC was particularly renowned for his assistance to Biomaal and Bantu farmers in
the area, including with respect to resisting pressure to sell or relinquish land in the context of
ongoing inter-clan conflict in the area. The killing of the DC on 3 August 2015 at his home,
alongside his colleagues Abdule Barre and Hassan Abdille, was reported widely as attributable to
Al-Shabaab.16 The Monitoring Group’s enquiries, including in interviews with the DC’s family
and in accounts received of the circumstances of the killing itself, suggest that although the
particular individuals who carried out the attack were indeed affiliated with Al-Shabaab17, the
motivation related to the ongoing conflict over land ownership and control in the area.18 As one
local activist described it: “Al-Shabaab did it, but he was stopping Hawiye businesses”.19
page 229

Moreover, when they controlled the riverine irrigation canals of Lower Shabelle after heavily armed Mooryaan militias roamed Mad Max style, the MOFOS even established Isbaaros in irrigation canals to supplement their Xaran Ku Nax lifestyle.
Other farmers complained they had to pay a levy to armed militia for the extraction of water. In order to prevent armed militias from controlling irrigation water, farmers deliberately destroyed floodgates. This in turn led to further destruction of the existing infrastructure. Then, farmers themselves resort to the use of arms to extract water for irrigating their fields.


https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... rn_Somalia page 26

Lastly, if one is to claim settlement of a particular area based on members of their clan inhabiting a cosmopolitan city then Marka was also a MJ town as they used to settle extensively in urban Marka before the Civil War. Do you know that, after the Cad Cad and Biimaal, they probably owned the most houses? Urban Somalis in the South hailed from all sorts of clans during the colonisation phase. However, to claim oneself as indigenous, one must have some sort of presence in the wider district. For instance, urban HG's were probably as numerous as Galjeecel in Beledweyne, does that make them a native clan of Beledweyne? The following is a link to the District map of Marka, there are dozens of villages highlighted on there. If his clan are natives of the region, ask him to name one village, just one village, that they settle. The only place you will find them noticeably are in Cad Cad neighbourhoods of Marka where they are known as Mukulal Madoow by their unfortunate victims.

https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.i ... rka_A3.pdf
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