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Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm**

Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:31 pm**

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed

Gaaljacel are good folks alot live in xamar jadiid they are good folks

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:34 pm**

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed

Lol the hirshabelle state show is just getting started sxb. Brace yourself for some drama

Posted: **Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:34 pm**

grandpakhalif wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:31 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed
Gaaljacel are good folks alot live in xamar jadiid they are good folks

Yh we shared xamar jadiid with mx back in the day. Is this still the case and when was the last time u visited sxb?

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:03 am**

Mk777 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:34 pm
grandpakhalif wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:31 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed
Gaaljacel are good folks alot live in xamar jadiid they are good folks
Yh we shared xamar jadiid with mx back in the day. Is this still the case and when was the last time u visited sxb?

8 months ago yeah you know SuuqaYare? Quaint little neighborhood.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:26 am**

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed

kkkk you wish! Hirshsbelle is hawadle iyo Abgaal no more no less and we r united yaa troll!
gaaljecel are no body in both hiiraan and and middle shabelle and their role is like the JL speaker i dont know what he is dir or other clan. their speaker was sidlined by Abgaal who stole gudoonka management this is an udeejeen women who hails from hiiraan. every time he calls for meating or wants to close a meeting she says no kkk waxaa ka soo harey bas dawladaan u cabansmaynaa who the fk is dawlada? this is federal state you geeljire. "dawlada cant do shit for him bc they dont control hiiraan or Jowhar. dhuloos asked hassan sh why he is ignoring them he said bc i dont want to upset PL and SL for the sake of dhuloos! dawlada cant mess with hawadle and Abgaal for are gaaljecel eyes! they r useful for speaking from xamar on kismaayo.

i give you example. like i hinted before abgaal and hawadle agreed each one to manage their side. abgaal have established their own golo deegaan in warsheekh next balcad and jowhar. hawadle are establishing their own gole deegaan"councils to elect mayors) based on degmoos and deegasn not qabiil as gaaljecel want bc they have no single degmo they dont live in buuuloburde or jalapaqsi or maxaas or matabaan at all and they have waax(sub district)in baladweyne

this is their speaker calling for intervention from amisom and federal govt yet no one has heard him!

this gaaljecel guy says he represents farmaajo iyo kheyre kkkk caku nimaan awood kulaheen meelna

listen waare from 11: to 16:00 no qabiil who got deegaan and degmo and xaafad falyatafadal!

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:50 am**

grandpakhalif wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:31 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 pm Damn I didn't know Xawaadle iyo Gaaljecal had this colaad over Hirshabelle. I thought us Jubbaland boys were the only ones who had beef over the reign in a mamul goboleed
Gaaljacel are good folks alot live in xamar jadiid they are good folks

Yeah I know. Cool peeps.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:53 am**

Voltage wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:13 pm Django is reer baadiye as hell acuudi bilaah.

1. I give two shits about Farmaajo's reelection or Xamar squabbling when it comes to Jubbaland. Every man in Vla Somalia has am end date but Jubbaland is forever.

2. I give two shits if another Ogaden wins or even a Gaaljecel or something. Like Typhoon said you are in petty small zone tribal mindset when we are talking about building lasting State institutions here.

It took Sharif Sakiin from the Ashraf, who are no power even in Digil and Mirifle, to be the face of the events that brought lasting state institutions to Southwest. Now the state has fallen to their natural majority---Laysaan who sit in Baydhabo eating good from the UN as as the majority Mirifle in the land.

Yesterday you had Abdullahi Yusuf, whose Cumar Maxuud are nothing past Bayra on the border between Mudug and Nugaal, chase the Cusman Maxuud Jaamac Cali Jaamac all the way to Boosaaso and the sea. Deep in Cusman Maxuud territory, Yusufwas threatening to attack Boosaaso until Jaamc escaped in a boat. Today the Cusman Maxmuud are eating good and sitting there plump and fat from aid money from Boosaaso to their seat in Garowe.

I'm not going to talk about Hirshabelle since Sahal will derail the topic, but that state is shared by Abgaal and Xawaadle. Just think about this.

3. With regards to Marehan, at the end of the day they have the most to win since they are the majority and principal in a legitimate Jubbaland. I want a state that everyone who lives from Dollow on the Ethiopian border down to the Indian Ocean at Kismaayo gives legitimacy to. Watch the aid money flow in. There will not be a atate with more investments than Jubbaland. Mark my words.

4. Again, fock Farmaajo's reelection or Xamar retail politics.

Voltage acudubilah is your kind and you are reer Badiye to the core even if you were brought up in the west.

You are the epitome of you can take the nigga out of the Ghetto but not the Ghetto out of him.

You are a very emotional individual with inconsistencies and having no principles apart from flying the banner of your Marexanimo. Your world is starts with marexan and ends with marexan.

You like character assasinating individuals who go against your views even as far as asking your tolka to ban them or delete their contributions when they counter your weak arguements. You like writing long essaays using cooked up narratives and falsifying historical accounts.

How is it possible that only Marexan in snet know that Madoobe decided to cave in while no other leaks are available from Ogaden or other legit sources.
We are not kids go take your pathological lies somewhere else but please dont try selling it here.

Faarmajo is incompetent and his career is over he will never be elected come next election.

The JL saga exposed him as a qabileste who could go so low and forfeit principles and commit treason just to ensure he puts his struggling clan in a favourable position.

Well there is no election on the horizon unless maybe Farmajo behind the doors forfeited the somali waters to Kenya to at least get another elections in JL. The reason why Farmajo agreed to accept Kenyas request to extend the ICJ case is one dodgy deal especially after FArmajo regime has changed most of the Lawyers that were representing Somalia in the ICJ.

So you want to tell me the IC is willing to do away with the road map of Federalism in Somalia and allow an incompetent Failmajo to prop up his own desired handpicked state leaders like Lafta Gareen.

You also want to say the IC is willing to sacrifice its goodwill and is willing accept the demands of a Langaab president when he wants to impose his intolerant clan on others.

Today Galmudug is burning because Farmajos regime does not understand dialogue he is abusing his power to fight groups that have been fighting AS and ensured Galmudug was free from AS.

To cut the story short whether Madoobe goes through an election defeat or heart attack from an Ilkoyar evil eye,

Farmajo is done so is Marexan.

The next Hawiye President will reverse any gains that Farmajo did in favour of his clan.
You will not be President/PM of Somalia for a long time.

JL will never be ran by Marexan that is the bitter truth.

So please take your lies somewhere else we are not in 1969.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:08 am**

Wallahi Sahal is a reflection of Somali munaafaqnimo. Xasbunalaah waa nicmal wakiil.

For example, this guy mentions he supports political Islam/Islamists because their values are better for the country. Yet look at this;

kkkk you wish! Hirshsbelle is hawadle iyo Abgaal no more no less

Before we even bring up his "tone" which is full of colaad/anger anytime Gaaljecel or others are brought up as LEGITIMATE stakeholders, what Islamic values and/or other views are there that support that level of injustice and denying people their xuquuq?

Are Gaaljecel, etc not only LEGITIMATE STAKEHOLDERS to Hirshabelle but to Beledweyne town itself which Sahal admits has entire neighborhoods populated by non-Xawaadle? Not even Hiiraan, but even the other state of Middle Shabelle are there not other groups like Jareerweyne (Shiidle) whose numbers have manifested in such they are even mayor of Jowhar, a town political propaganda would make someone believe is majority Abgaal?

Look at me for instance, AND THIS IS NOT FOR NEGATIVE/FAAN REASONS, but forget towns, Marehan have taken over such complete political control in an entire region (Gedo) that not only is the Governor Marehan, all 7 District Commissioners/Mayors Marehan, but even the 2 Deputy-Governors and all 7 Deputy District Commissioners/Mayors are Marehan.

Yet many of the Marehan here myself included, Saddam included, Murax included, etc are on record for saying there are grave injustices that Marehan needs to rectify in the future starting from a clan-wide apology to some of their neighbors for some civil war punitive/unjust conduct and a recognition of Rahanweyn, as an example, historical connection to Luuq and Baardheere, free access to land, political participation, etc.

WE ARE TAKING THIS POSITION WHEN THERE IS 0 (ZERO) LOCAL OPPOSITION THAT IS EVEN ABLE TO DEMAND ANYTHING.

Yet, you choose the opposite position to deny justice to people with the numbers and powers to actually form a local opposition. I mean you have entire districts in Hirshabelle controlled by Shabaab because of unhappy groups.

Also, the leadership of Jubbaland has narrowed down to such an extent that only two clans are talked about when remarking on leadership (MR ans OG), yet I am on record on this very topic and elsewhere saying I don't care if the President is Gaaljecel or Cawrmale or anyone else if the administration is recognized from Dollow to Kismaayo.

Yet while I open up and even broaden the competition in the make of justice and fairness to all who live in Jubbaland, again you take the opposite position and want to NARROW political participation in your state by denying legitimate stakeholders their right.

Forget even the grandiosity of the overall State post, this has always been my hearts desire for Somalia as a whole

Voltage wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:02 pmDarood aniga Sade baan ka ahay. Sade anigu Marehan baan ka ahay. Soo gaabiyoo, Marehan reer Diini baan ka ahay, kaba gaabanoo reer Siyaad baan ka ahay.

Garbahaaray is almost completely a reer Siyaad deegaan.

Garbahaaraydaas reer Siyaadkaygu dago, I would wallahul cadiim choose a Sheekhaal or Gaaljecel mayor to advance it than my own reer Siyaad if his plans weren't as good.

Ogaadeen baad sheegtaye, nimankaas that are my Jubbaland brothers that are Hawiye I want them to feel free to settle and contest the leadership of Garbahaaraydaas ama Beled-Xaawo ama Baardheere ama Luuq, etc

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4945576

We are a civil war torn society trying to reconfigure and reconcile. Even this concept of Federalism is to take back power for every local man and woman.

It's not just MORALLY REPUGNANT but it's also strategically politically stupid to try to repeat the same problems people say caused the civil war; denying people political participation and the right to have a say about their lives and their land.

I am not morally superior to Sahal, but Sahal should really sit down somewhere and actually think about the sort of country he wants to live in that he can be proud of.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:13 am**

Anyway Madhoobe will be gone soon in 4 years time.
But Ogadens will remember one thing from his tenure that.
Madoobe was the most pro Marexan Ogaden leader of all times and that Marexan were his biggest opposition who plotted day and night to remove him from power even through assasination attempts on his life.

Sheikh sharif will win the next election and Ghandi is his right hand man.Maybe chosen as minister of interior or foreign affairs who will ensure that madoobe is gone by ushering in smooth transition.

Most Ogaden are tired carrying the dead weight aka Marexan.
A jubbaland without Marexan is the way forward.
Removing the cancer once and for all.
Lobbying to remove Gedo from JL is the way forward.
I think you have more in common Konfur Galbeed and Gedo will enjoy success under Lafta Gareen.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:22 am**

Django wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:53 amHow is it possible that only Marexan in snet know that Madoobe decided to cave in while no other leaks are available from Ogaden or other legit sources.

We are not kids go take your pathological lies somewhere else but please dont try selling it here.

***Sorry, I quoted just that so we don't take a lot of space.***

My briet response;

1. Did Guhad write that and pass it off to you? You seem as angry as he always does and you also started writing in his writing style/voice?

2. I am no longer responding to the Mod/delete my stuff accusations. Clearly the problem was that I even denied and responsed to it in the first place.

3. I am no longer going to waste time with who will win future elections and blah blah blah. Let's see when it happens.

4. Whether we are pathological liars or not will solve itself soon when the decision is declared.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:27 am**

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:40 pm Voltage,

Who you gonna believe a guy whose Ahl bayt to the region and hails from one of the most POWERFUL clans in Jubbaland or people who don't have inside info but speculate due to their political biases? Anyways, now you confirmed my news. What will be the post Jubbaland era after Madobe's tenure? We all know our homeland has been stagnated due to the political crisis. Will it be better than Konfur Galbeed that is now reborn as one of the principal FMS? We need to assess now the future of Jubbaland post Madobe era. Will be more united and thus more powerful than Puntland? As Jubbaland is more resource rich than all the FMS and the base of Darood's military wing? Questions questions!

Saddam I was thinking about how to respond to you and the truth is I don't have the answers to that questions to be honest. They are far too into the future. I think we should concentrate on today and step by step approach.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:30 am**

"Also, the leadership of Jubbaland has narrowed down to such an extent that only two clans are talked about when remarking on leadership (MR ans OG), yet I am on record on this very topic and elsewhere saying I don't care if the President is Gaaljecel or Cawrmale or anyone else if the administration is recognized from Dollow to Kismaayo."

If you are genuine and not a bullshitter.
Start with Gedo.
Why not allow Bardheere to have administrators from Raxaweyne/Ogaden
Why not allow Celwaq/Beled Xaawo to have a Garreh Administrator
Why not allow luq to have Dir Administrator

Charity begins at home the moment you accept this changes is when we can trust your intention.

But when Failmjo props in Lafta gareen as the Konfur Galbeed dictator and we know that Lafta Gareen is Half Marexan then we all know how well the kacanists think.

Kacanists had 8 years of grace period under JVA from 1998.Nothing was build apart from mass migration of squatters from Galgaduud and C/waaq.
So a wolf will always be a wolf even though they hide under a sheep clothing.

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:41 am**

Voltage wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:22 am
Django wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:53 amHow is it possible that only Marexan in snet know that Madoobe decided to cave in while no other leaks are available from Ogaden or other legit sources.

We are not kids go take your pathological lies somewhere else but please dont try selling it here.

***Sorry, I quoted just that so we don't take a lot of space.***

My briet response;

1. Did Guhad write that and pass it off to you? You seem as angry as he always does and you also started writing in his writing style/voice?

2. I am no longer responding to the Mod/delete my stuff accusations. Clearly the problem was that I even denied and responsed to it in the first place.

3. I am no longer going to waste time with who will win future elections and blah blah blah. Let's see when it happens.

4. Whether we are pathological liars or not will solve itself soon when the decision is declared.

Saxib when there are leaks even from Villa Somalia.Its on the tabloids or the streets or even on Youtube.

Tell me how confidential this information is when every marexan know something about Madoobe that others dont.

You folks broke the record of claimming Madobbe will be gone in three days to 3 months to alot of conspiracy theories.

What I am asking is at least have some consistency in your news broadcasts because how many times have they turned into mere fabrications or lies?

We all know Madhoobe is gone within 4 years he will be history. But that will not be interpreted as we are going to have a marexan President in JL.
Most Ogaden in Juboyinka are anti Marexan we have seen madhoobe wasting resources to appease marexan at the expense of development in juboyinka.

Marexan thrives with insecurity in JL.Just like they thrived from the insecurity in Gedo.
Our goal is not to have another Madoobe in JL. :win:

Posted: **Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:50 am**

Voltage wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:08 am Wallahi Sahal is a reflection of Somali munaafaqnimo. Xasbunalaah waa nicmal wakiil.

For example, this guy mentions he supports political Islam/Islamists because their values are better for the country. Yet look at this;

kkkk you wish! Hirshsbelle is hawadle iyo Abgaal no more no less
Before we even bring up his "tone" which is full of colaad/anger anytime Gaaljecel or others are brought up as LEGITIMATE stakeholders, what Islamic values and/or other views are there that support that level of injustice and denying people their xuquuq?

Are Gaaljecel, etc not only LEGITIMATE STAKEHOLDERS to Hirshabelle but to Beledweyne town itself which Sahal admits has entire neighborhoods populated by non-Xawaadle? Not even Hiiraan, but even the other state of Middle Shabelle are there not other groups like Jareerweyne (Shiidle) whose numbers have manifested in such they are even mayor of Jowhar, a town political propaganda would make someone believe is majority Abgaal?

Look at me for instance, AND THIS IS NOT FOR NEGATIVE/FAAN REASONS, but forget towns, Marehan have taken over such complete political control in an entire region (Gedo) that not only is the Governor Marehan, all 7 District Commissioners/Mayors Marehan, but even the 2 Deputy-Governors and all 7 Deputy District Commissioners/Mayors are Marehan.

Yet many of the Marehan here myself included, Saddam included, Murax included, etc are on record for saying there are grave injustices that Marehan needs to rectify in the future starting from a clan-wide apology to some of their neighbors for some civil war punitive/unjust conduct and a recognition of Rahanweyn, as an example, historical connection to Luuq and Baardheere, free access to land, political participation, etc.

WE ARE TAKING THIS POSITION WHEN THERE IS 0 (ZERO) LOCAL OPPOSITION THAT IS EVEN ABLE TO DEMAND ANYTHING.

Yet, you choose the opposite position to deny justice to people with the numbers and powers to actually form a local opposition. I mean you have entire districts in Hirshabelle controlled by Shabaab because of unhappy groups.

Also, the leadership of Jubbaland has narrowed down to such an extent that only two clans are talked about when remarking on leadership (MR ans OG), yet I am on record on this very topic and elsewhere saying I don't care if the President is Gaaljecel or Cawrmale or anyone else if the administration is recognized from Dollow to Kismaayo.

Yet while I open up and even broaden the competition in the make of justice and fairness to all who live in Jubbaland, again you take the opposite position and want to NARROW political participation in your state by denying legitimate stakeholders their right.

Forget even the grandiosity of the overall State post, this has always been my hearts desire for Somalia as a whole

Voltage wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:02 pmDarood aniga Sade baan ka ahay. Sade anigu Marehan baan ka ahay. Soo gaabiyoo, Marehan reer Diini baan ka ahay, kaba gaabanoo reer Siyaad baan ka ahay.

Garbahaaray is almost completely a reer Siyaad deegaan.

Garbahaaraydaas reer Siyaadkaygu dago, I would wallahul cadiim choose a Sheekhaal or Gaaljecel mayor to advance it than my own reer Siyaad if his plans weren't as good.

Ogaadeen baad sheegtaye, nimankaas that are my Jubbaland brothers that are Hawiye I want them to feel free to settle and contest the leadership of Garbahaaraydaas ama Beled-Xaawo ama Baardheere ama Luuq, etc

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p4945576
We are a civil war torn society trying to reconfigure and reconcile. Even this concept of Federalism is to take back power for every local man and woman.

It's not just MORALLY REPUGNANT but it's also strategically politically stupid to try to repeat the same problems people say caused the civil war; denying people political participation and the right to have a say about their lives and their land.

I am not morally superior to Sahal, but Sahal should really sit down somewhere and actually think about the sort of country he wants to live in that he can be proud of.

kkkk wallahi wax idinka munaafaqsan inaysan jirin you talk about wadaniyad iyo kenya when you are silent abput ethiopia who helps your jaale farmaajo. atleast aniga i dont have qabiil mind i shit on waare and every hawadle politician but you no one can talk about your corrupt federal politicians. listen my friend im describing the situation it doesnt mean i support this or im against it what i mean is hiiraan wax kama soconayaan hawadle la,aantiis sidoo kale jowhar wax kama soconayaan abgaal la,aantiis. somali govt fucks up our local power sharing bc they keep sending just ali madaxwayne to get support leave alonre gaaljecel other hawadles have lost their shares. hassan sh did not mess our system bc he was not dictator he was leaving us to pick the guy. he wasnt scared like them.

if you want something from hiiraan you can only go the hawadle side. Farmaajo mentioned Ugaas hassanes name yesterday without the ugaas being there. why he didnt mention your gaaljecel favoured ugaas? because he cant stay even in their xaafad he lives in xamar all his life. having said what im talking about is maamulka iyo dhanka bari oo cityga ubadan tahay but hawadle have their own galbeed xaafad(90%) next to the gugundhabe xaafad so this bari galbeed is a big lie. example taliyaha police was ali madahwayne police is run by hirshabelle they changed the army commander tawane who belongs to agoon abdallaha bc every time the town gets liberated our bases are in ethiopa so they head the army wich is based in their region. col mukhtar who is agoon cabdalle jufada goodax liberated baladweyne 2011. they host ali madaxwayne army each time. N&N named ciidanka for ali madaxwayne, NISA for ali madahwayne, backed laqanyo who is ali madaxwayne agaist waare.

this col mukhtar ex banadir police chief and ex deputy federal police commmader. look how he trained the army 2:40 look how they protecting him. shirkii igad xamar asagaa loo dhiibay.

we divide the power between the hawadle subclans. hirshabelle is led by a subclan that is closer to jowhar. its not importsnt like hiiraan any subclan can lead hirshabelle bc its just an adminstration. hiiraan governor has to be the biggest subclan who defends hiiraan all these guys are in ciidanka they have what they call ghost army they r mscawisleeyda. the mayor is from a subclan that controls the customs between the highways that go to galgaduud and ethiopia where they call kalabayr why i have to give the mayor to a clan that cant secure its xaafad for its elders? when they do that we will give them but no fking political correctness. hiiraan is for those who protect it and build it. this is hirshabelle prez, governor and mayor. the guy with the red bed is a nominal gaaljecel gudoomiyaha degmada the women didnt like him and asked to be fired and he got fired. this is not naceeb its about demonstrating the real situation

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