Kheyre and Madobe spoke on phone!

[sahal80]

Somali media started supporting this theory. kheyre no long uses the hashtag $Nabad iyo Nolol his new party is called #Horumar iyo Hiigsi! #amaano iyo Adeeg

[sahal80]

i don't understand what the big deal is, even if kheyre and madobe spoke on the phone, Kheyre would just walk the government line on the jubbaland policy.

of course Kheyre has aspirations to become the next president, but he is a smart man and knows that N&N have to many enemies if he sides with the enemies he would be swallowed up and become irrelevant overnight. his best hope of becoming a president is to stick with farmaajo add 4 more years as PM to his CV, continue the development of Somalia, increase government spending to about 10 billion dollars by 2025. Then run for President and by then the mucaarads OF today would be irrelevant and the politics of Somalia would be completely different.

Farmaajo can then retire sit back relax and know that the country is being led by a man he knows and his legacy shall be continued.

this is the first President\PM we have that share the same vision for Somalia.

sxb Farmaajo iyo Hassan waxaa isku haaya fahad yasin iyo Dawlado. tusaale hadii adigoo dawlada ku jira aad weyso taageerada fahad farmaajo iyo kheyre daaqadeey kaa tuurayan tusaale thabit kheyre ay isqabteen. thabit waa nin system waxa ka dhisay oo golaha sare ka mid ah. kheyre fahad uu u tagey wuxuu dhahay niyahow nonkaan ma ogolodiin in la tuuro mana controli kartaan ama iidaaya aan tuuree ama controla!
thabit waa ninka soo daayey cabdirahman abdi shakur odayaasha hawiyana la kulmay so he used to say anaa kheye la igu badali.

mururan dheer dabadiis fahad wuxuu dhahay nin yahow "anaga inaan wax badalno nalooma ogala hadii kale sida abuu.. dhahay(head of qatar intelligence)hadii midkiins ah baxo kurti waa la idinkala furfuri kadib fahad ayaa kheyre soo wacay oo ku dhahay fasax aa tahay!
ninkaan thabit wuxuu ku jiray xamladii farmaajo. kheyre iyo farmaajo waxbadan oo khilaaf ka dhexdhalin karey waxaa meesha ka saara fahadka iyo qatar ee maha maryooley waxay ku heshiiyeen. aniga waxaa la igu dhahay Farmaajo lug hoose ayaa waxay ugu jirtaa ethiopia iyo eritrea iyo sacuudiga iyo masar arinta horn integrationka incase hadii qatar diido inuu isa soo sharoxo 2020/2021 oo kheyre masalan taageeraan.

aniga waxaan la sheekeystey siyaasi hawadle ah oo farmaajo sxb ahaayeen i asked him why he was not picked as ala sheekh pm wuxuu dhahay "warmeeshaan HGtii aa mid walbe ordaayey ala skeekh wax la dhoho majiro hadii mid lagu hrshiin lahaa lagayaabo laakin fiqi kaligius uu ordaayey cabdi samad kaligiis tan kale ninkaan kheyre wuxuu helay odayaal badan oo murursade ah oo balanqaad wayn farmaajo la galay inay u caqli celindoonaan" wuxuu dhahay wax walbe garab ay u bsahsnyihiin nin ma jirin ala sheekh garab ka haystey mid mid u kala carareen ninkaan kheyrana garab qabiil uu helay. so i always believed it has to do with him being his inlaw but i heard this qatar theory and that kheyre was in cahoots with farmsajo from vew people. hassan sh aysa Kheyre u sharaxey inuu xooghsyaha igad noqdo si lan ogaadeenla ugu badalo waa gii kismaayo 2013 ethiopia soo diiday.

this os what my friend said
"let me also correct you when it comes to how Farmaajo picked Khayre as his PM. This was pre-determined before even Farmaajo won the election. It was a deal between Fahad, Khayre, Farmaajo, and Qatar. Khayre and Fahad were close friends for a long time and were even business partners. Both of them were shareholders of Somaoil. The deal was to back up Farmaajo as a presidential candidate, then Farmaajo had to appoint Khayre as his PM which Farmaajo agreed. One day after his inauguration, Farmaajo appointed Khayre as his PM, didn't even take time to make deliberations to select his PM as this was already pre-determined.

you may know, Khayre was in the Hassan Sheikh's campaign team while he was also secretly working with Farmaajo and Fahad and knew that if Farmaajo won the election, he would be the PM. When the election is about to take place soon, he told XSM that Somaoil leaders in the UK called him and told him to stay away from the elections and he would go to Mombassa.

Yes, May be Qatar will back Hawiye president this time, may be Hiraab president this time, No one knows for sure.

[Nomand]

i don't understand what the big deal is, even if kheyre and madobe spoke on the phone, Kheyre would just walk the government line on the jubbaland policy.

of course Kheyre has aspirations to become the next president, but he is a smart man and knows that N&N have to many enemies if he sides with the enemies he would be swallowed up and become irrelevant overnight. his best hope of becoming a president is to stick with farmaajo add 4 more years as PM to his CV, continue the development of Somalia, increase government spending to about 10 billion dollars by 2025. Then run for President and by then the mucaarads OF today would be irrelevant and the politics of Somalia would be completely different.

Farmaajo can then retire sit back relax and know that the country is being led by a man he knows and his legacy shall be continued.

this is the first President\PM we have that share the same vision for Somalia.

sxb Farmaajo iyo Hassan waxaa isku haaya fahad yasin iyo Dawlado. tusaale hadii adigoo dawlada ku jira aad weyso taageerada fahad farmaajo iyo kheyre daaqadeey kaa tuurayan tusaale thabit kheyre ay isqabteen. thabit waa nin system waxa ka dhisay oo golaha sare ka mid ah. kheyre fahad uu u tagey wuxuu dhahay niyahow nonkaan ma ogolodiin in la tuuro mana controli kartaan ama iidaaya aan tuuree ama controla!
thabit waa ninka soo daayey cabdirahman abdi shakur odayaasha hawiyana la kulmay so he used to say anaa kheye la igu badali.

mururan dheer dabadiis fahad wuxuu dhahay nin yahow "anaga inaan wax badalno nalooma ogala hadii kale sida abuu.. dhahay(head of qatar intelligence)hadii midkiins ah baxo kurti waa la idinkala furfuri kadib fahad ayaa kheyre soo wacay oo ku dhahay fasax aa tahay!
ninkaan thabit wuxuu ku jiray xamladii farmaajo. kheyre iyo farmaajo waxbadan oo khilaaf ka dhexdhalin karey waxaa meesha ka saara fahadka iyo qatar ee maha maryooley waxay ku heshiiyeen. aniga waxaa la igu dhahay Farmaajo lug hoose ayaa waxay ugu jirtaa ethiopia iyo eritrea iyo sacuudiga iyo masar arinta horn integrationka incase hadii qatar diido inuu isa soo sharoxo 2020/2021 oo kheyre masalan taageeraan.

aniga waxaan la sheekeystey siyaasi hawadle ah oo farmaajo sxb ahaayeen i asked him why he was not picked as ala sheekh pm wuxuu dhahay "warmeeshaan HGtii aa mid walbe ordaayey ala skeekh wax la dhoho majiro hadii mid lagu hrshiin lahaa lagayaabo laakin fiqi kaligius uu ordaayey cabdi samad kaligiis tan kale ninkaan kheyre wuxuu helay odayaal badan oo murursade ah oo balanqaad wayn farmaajo la galay inay u caqli celindoonaan" wuxuu dhahay wax walbe garab ay u bsahsnyihiin nin ma jirin ala sheekh garab ka haystey mid mid u kala carareen ninkaan kheyrana garab qabiil uu helay. so i always believed it has to do with him being his inlaw but i heard this qatar theory and that kheyre was in cahoots with farmsajo from vew people. hassan sh aysa Kheyre u sharaxey inuu xooghsyaha igad noqdo si lan ogaadeenla ugu badalo waa gii kismaayo 2013 ethiopia soo diiday.

this os what my friend said
"let me also correct you when it comes to how Farmaajo picked Khayre as his PM. This was pre-determined before even Farmaajo won the election. It was a deal between Fahad, Khayre, Farmaajo, and Qatar. Khayre and Fahad were close friends for a long time and were even business partners. Both of them were shareholders of Somaoil. The deal was to back up Farmaajo as a presidential candidate, then Farmaajo had to appoint Khayre as his PM which Farmaajo agreed. One day after his inauguration, Farmaajo appointed Khayre as his PM, didn't even take time to make deliberations to select his PM as this was already pre-determined.

you may know, Khayre was in the Hassan Sheikh's campaign team while he was also secretly working with Farmaajo and Fahad and knew that if Farmaajo won the election, he would be the PM. When the election is about to take place soon, he told XSM that Somaoil leaders in the UK called him and told him to stay away from the elections and he would go to Mombassa.

Yes, May be Qatar will back Hawiye president this time, may be Hiraab president this time, No one knows for sure.

sxb you make some valid points and others not so much,

i disagree with that fahad yasiin made farmaajo,

Farmaajo made himself and rose up in the somali public's conscience when he was the PM during the sharifs government, there has never been an PM like farmaajo before or after, he really put himself on the map and when he was fired there where protests in Mogadishu. no one really cared when shirdoon or abdiwali were forced out but farmaajo was different and he remained relevant throughout those years.

as for the connection between Kheyre, farmaajo and farah yasiin. Yes they had an understanding and probably picked Kheyre as the PM if they won but nabad iyo nolol was founded by Farmaajo and the others joined at a later date. But here is the Key point both farah yasiin and Kheyre did not have the cloud nor the name to compete for the Somali presidency they riled on the name and reputation of Farmaajo.

Kheyre could run for president in 2021 but whatever N&n government achieved will be linked and associated with Farmaajo, Kheyre would not be able to dissociate his achievements from Farmaajo. And there lies the problem which is why he is probably branding himself now. But the question kheyre needs to ask himself is this:

1)can he replace farmaajo and beat hassan sheikh,sheikh sharif
2) is he (Kheyre) easily replaceable
3) is the name Kheyre bigger then Farmaajo.

who do you think has more to lose farmaajo or kheyre? Kheyre at the moment is the Prime Minister of somalia the second most powerful position. He is a young man and has time on his hands which is why i don't think he will run, he is testing the waters to see if he has a shot.

btw this is somaoil and gas https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

they are a uk based company and are considered small and have the small company tax exemptions.

as for Kismaayo, it not as simple as marehan vs ogadeen, you have a large chunk of marehan that support madoobe and the ogadeen that live in jubbaland are against madoobe. Farmaajo opposition against Madoobe is not based on qabil, Farmaajo would probably recommend another ogadeen for the position. he is against Madoobe for various reasons.

here is kheyre using that term on official government meeting, does not seem like a term for a new party that he is creating but an extension of nabad iyo nolol. it would be insane of him to promote a new party while he is still in N&N he would probably need to resign first.

but we will see what happens.

[sahal80]

Nomand

reason Fahad backed Farmaajo is because of his "popularity" based on his pm days yet he couldnt make to the second round in 2012 he got less than 20 votes. for this reason fahad made him. i remember fahad role not just in the presidential election he helped some mx mps like abdishakur gaal eri with money to pay the elders. you think some ree baadiye hungery elders will vote for you. fahad couldnt bc of farah abdulqadir who changed the ugaas of reerow hassan and installed new odey who picked the elders for him. even some of the odayaal who voted farah were not reerow hassan they were jareer.

fahad funded over 20 mps from different clans and with mx they became 30...not all of these mx but they supported him as candidate. Damjadeed had one talxa mp from leicester alankeey and fartaag. Sagal voted for ccc i think eccept three others voted for him. then fahad paid 25,000 for each pro daljir and ala sheekh mp theu were like 40 thats how he got 70 in the first round.

[Typhoon]

https://www.stripes.com/news/africom-bo ... s-1.558300


Farmaajo has the backing of the rulers of qatar, UAE, saudi, Ethiopia and kenya
that how farmaajo outplayed the Gulf states and went with the winning side, he outmanavoured the TPLF since he knew what yamamoto was cooking, he outsmarted, sharif sakin, abdiweli gaas, hassan sheik and exposed madoobe to international community

he brought somaliland into the somali financial fold, all International AID goes through somali central bank and ministry of finance
notice when somali politicians start their nonsene United state makes a statement and showers somalia with fund

ku laha fahad yasin or kheyre