Afar walxaatoow HA ku taal, hadaan Harti lagaa helin [waa HARTI ABGAAL]

[Kees70]

fiiri HG oo Abgaalka Hiraab isku yihiin sida ay uga cabaadayaan ka qeybgalkii waare ee shirka Mudulood iyo kulamadii uu madasha Abgaal la yeeshay hadana waxaa la ileeyahay haye war adiga gal pmka kkk

As Geedi said that Waare is there because of Hirsheblle and he is there as their President in the Mudolood shir.

Sahal do you really think Beesha HG care at all what an Xawadle does with Abgaal, why in Gods name would Beesha HG care what an Hirshabelle President do with its Hirshabelle citizens Abgaals, for all we care Xawadle and Abgaals can have thousands of shir an we wont care.

In fact we dont see any threat nor care from the actions of the aforementioned groups, we never relied on anyone other than ourselves, as Politics is all about interests and alliance making.

So Sahalow Chill with the HG Paranoia you have.

QoorQoor and CCW are guests in the grand conference today.

Masha'Allahi for our Mudolood Brothers conference, i hope a great success and prosperity follows for our older brother,

I was just stunned how Sahal after tiring himself in attacking Abgaals politically these days is now attacking HG by saying we are ''calacaaling'' about the New HAG Messiah (Sahals words lol) Mudane Waares attendance in the Mudolood conference

Sahal walahi never ceases to amaze us Hiraab, as he jabs/attacks us both cheekily.

[Voltage]

fiiri HG oo Abgaalka Hiraab isku yihiin sida ay uga cabaadayaan ka qeybgalkii waare ee shirka Mudulood iyo kulamadii uu madasha Abgaal la yeeshay hadana waxaa la ileeyahay haye war adiga gal pmka kkk

As Geedi said that Waare is there because of Hirsheblle and he is there as their President in the Mudolood shir.

Sahal do you really think Beesha HG care at all what an Xawadle does with Abgaal, why in Gods name would Beesha HG care what an Hirshabelle President do with its Hirshabelle citizens Abgaals, for all we care Xawadle and Abgaals can have thousands of shir an we wont care.

In fact we dont see any threat nor care from the actions of the aforementioned groups, we never relied on anyone other than ourselves, as Politics is all about interests and alliance making.

So Sahalow Chill with the HG Paranoia you have.

QoorQoor and CCW are guests in the grand conference today.

Well it looks like Abkoow certainly has since taken his morning coffee.

And don't even try Abkoow. Your single clipped response and what you didn't say speak loudly enough.

I have big ears. Very big ears. And sometimes shaydaan makes me whisper and I whisper. I sure whispered early enough this time

Acud bilaah mina shaydaani rajiim. Be gone iblays!

[sahal80]

fiiri HG oo Abgaalka Hiraab isku yihiin sida ay uga cabaadayaan ka qeybgalkii waare ee shirka Mudulood iyo kulamadii uu madasha Abgaal la yeeshay hadana waxaa la ileeyahay haye war adiga gal pmka kkk

As Geedi said that Waare is there because of Hirsheblle and he is there as their President in the Mudolood shir.

Sahal do you really think Beesha HG care at all what an Xawadle does with Abgaal, why in Gods name would Beesha HG care what an Hirshabelle President do with its Hirshabelle citizens Abgaals, for all we care Xawadle and Abgaals can have thousands of shir an we wont care.

In fact we dont see any threat nor care from the actions of the aforementioned groups, we never relied on anyone other than ourselves, as Politics is all about interests and alliance making.

So Sahalow Chill with the HG Paranoia you have.

sxb this is political kaftan you know me im not anti-HG and if i say some thing about HG its for self criticism but when it comes to within HAG of couse you have the theoretical hiraab alliance wich is another awrku kacsi similar to hawiye awrkucasi when Daarood are in power. we Hawadle are cunning clan and now how to be a wall between Abgaal and HG who r political rivals.

yes there is New Abgaal and Hawadle/Hirshabelle alliance initiated by Ali Mahdi in reaction to dhusamareeb2 and HG pm and this what my friend Voltage dont get.

Abgaal dont have some thing to influence in the federal politics right now. Banaadir is under the jurisdiction of the SFG and Hirshabelle and Galmudug are HG abd Hawadle therefore they r inviting Hawadle and getting closer to compete with HG. try to reread my AG plot to take over Hirshabelle so they can do Jowhar1 Jowhar2

meeshii qoorqoor looga xajinayay hada waaraa looga xajinooyaa
who is blind to to not see this alliance? abdiladir boss talked about it saying HG are upset of inviting waare and he is waceysle the most pro HG Abgaal jufo. aniga labadiina lee dhex dabaalanooyaa wixii ugu soo aadana waa qaadan without making big effort kkk



kuwaan waa agoontii kheyre kkk

[Kees70]

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[Kees70]

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[Kees70]

fiiri HG oo Abgaalka Hiraab isku yihiin sida ay uga cabaadayaan ka qeybgalkii waare ee shirka Mudulood iyo kulamadii uu madasha Abgaal la yeeshay hadana waxaa la ileeyahay haye war adiga gal pmka kkk

As Geedi said that Waare is there because of Hirsheblle and he is there as their President in the Mudolood shir.

Sahal do you really think Beesha HG care at all what an Xawadle does with Abgaal, why in Gods name would Beesha HG care what an Hirshabelle President do with its Hirshabelle citizens Abgaals, for all we care Xawadle and Abgaals can have thousands of shir an we wont care.

In fact we dont see any threat nor care from the actions of the aforementioned groups, we never relied on anyone other than ourselves, as Politics is all about interests and alliance making.

So Sahalow Chill with the HG Paranoia you have.

sxb this is political kaftan you know me im not anti-HG and if i say some thing about HG its for self criticism but when it comes to within HAG of couse you have the theoretical hiraab alliance wich is another awrku kacsi similar to hawiye awrkucasi when Daarood are in power. we Hawadle are cunning clan and now how to be a wall between Abgaal and HG who r political rivals.

yes there is New Abgaal and Hawadle/Hirshabelle alliance initiated by Ali Mahdi in reaction to dhusamareeb2 and HG pm and this what my friend Voltage dont get.

Abgaal dont have some thing to influence in the federal politics right now. Banaadir is under the jurisdiction of the SFG and Hirshabelle and Galmudug are HG abd Hawadle therefore they r inviting Hawadle and getting closer to compete with HG. try to reread my AG plot to take over Hirshabelle so they can do Jowhar1 Jowhar2

meeshii qoorqoor looga xajinayay hada waaraa looga xajinooyaa kuwaan waa agoontii kheyre kkk

cunning clan between Abgaal iyo HG kulaha Sahal

Sahal Beesha HG masterfully took out the langaab kuwaits murursade out of the HAG Politics because of their Anti HAG policies, as for the Alliance between Abgaal an Hawadle thats a good thing because after-all waa iska reer Hirshabelle just as we HG are Galmudugs, in Somalia's Politics its all about like our sister Osob said a ''dog eat dog world'' i.e every man and clan for itself.

So beesha Xawadle better take care of their Hirshabelle throne carefully lest they lose it to other hungry wolves of reer Hirshablle

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Midulood are working for midnimo hawiye

[sahal80]

As Geedi said that Waare is there because of Hirsheblle and he is there as their President in the Mudolood shir.

Sahal do you really think Beesha HG care at all what an Xawadle does with Abgaal, why in Gods name would Beesha HG care what an Hirshabelle President do with its Hirshabelle citizens Abgaals, for all we care Xawadle and Abgaals can have thousands of shir an we wont care.

In fact we dont see any threat nor care from the actions of the aforementioned groups, we never relied on anyone other than ourselves, as Politics is all about interests and alliance making.

So Sahalow Chill with the HG Paranoia you have.

sxb this is political kaftan you know me im not anti-HG and if i say some thing about HG its for self criticism but when it comes to within HAG of couse you have the theoretical hiraab alliance wich is another awrku kacsi similar to hawiye awrkucasi when Daarood are in power. we Hawadle are cunning clan and now how to be a wall between Abgaal and HG who r political rivals.

yes there is New Abgaal and Hawadle/Hirshabelle alliance initiated by Ali Mahdi in reaction to dhusamareeb2 and HG pm and this what my friend Voltage dont get.

Abgaal dont have some thing to influence in the federal politics right now. Banaadir is under the jurisdiction of the SFG and Hirshabelle and Galmudug are HG abd Hawadle therefore they r inviting Hawadle and getting closer to compete with HG. try to reread my AG plot to take over Hirshabelle so they can do Jowhar1 Jowhar2

meeshii qoorqoor looga xajinayay hada waaraa looga xajinooyaa kuwaan waa agoontii kheyre kkk

cunning clan between Abgaal iyo HG kulaha Sahal

Sahal Beesha HG masterfully took out the langaab kuwaits murursade out of the HAG Politics because of their Anti HAG policies, as for the Alliance between Abgaal an Hawadle thats a good thing because after-all waa iska reer Hirshabelle just as we HG are Galmudugs, in Somalia's Politics its all about like our sister Osob said a ''dog eat dog world'' i.e every man and clan for itself.

So beesha Xawadle better take care of their Hirshabelle throne carefully lest they lose it to other hungry wolves of reer Hirshablle

i will tell you the difference between Hawadle and Murusade; Hawadle play accomplishing role for either HG or Abgaal. Farah gololey was asked who wins HG or Abgaal and he said to them "the one Hawadle sides with" in early 90s Hawadle were allied with HG though not being against Abgaal. they were recognizing Ali mahdi as interim president and elected Caydiid in theur Hotel Guuleed as USC chairman(Cali gar leh caydiidna jid leh)

since 2012 there have been Hiraabism and Damjadiidism against Hawadle and Murusade now as Kheyre gone now we see the internal Hiraab competitions appearing on the surface again bc HG are influencing in the fedwral politics through Galmudug and are becoming aabaha federalka "who kept hooyada federalka in the kitchen while he looks after his reer somali lol"

this is why we got approached by Abgaal in this Ali mahdi initiated alliance to influence on the federal govt. you see waare started meeting HAG officials and politicians with the Abgaal backing. this is how Abgaal started influencing the federal politics again. strong Hirshabelle is more danger than Galmudug bc we can use warsheekh and balcad as a base to invade Xamar and Hiiraan is already free. you see now we r accomplishing Abgaal but we dont like to go too far and take the pm post in exchange of Hirshabelle president that is what Voltage dont get kulahaa 6 months ay kugu qaadatey qqqqq

Murusade is an stand alone hawiye clan with the third influence in Mogadishu so a weak daarood president could see them the best option. Hawadle dabada waxay ku heestaan half of hiraab and Maamulgoboleed. now we hearing some theory why not Hawadle pm abgaalna waa degaa hirshabellana ku leexiya this is what Ali Osoble was warning from.
this different than voltage theory. hawadle cannot have two federal and regional posts together while abgaal have none but they can have hirshabelle without Abgaal having the federal one simple as that.

[sahal80]

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[Osob101]

Voltage

What are you even talking about? You tried to use my words to somehow take a dig at Sahal and I informed you to man up and face him head on instead of trying to be smart and throw stuff and giggle. Listen here Mr I don’t what they have been feeding you at home but a few articulate words here and there do not work on me. I could care less about your courtesy. As for my personal info of my family, I have nothing to hide. I

[Murax]

I don’t blame Xassan Sh for doing what he did. I was not a fan of Xassan Sh. A great PM like Cabdiwali Sh, he interfered in his job. But you can’t say he was qabiliste in the slightest. He told Mudulood stand down on HiirShabeele, so we don’t look like we’re empowering ourselves using shaati dawlad.


Farmaajo, similarly pushed Maxamed Oomar (Cawlyahan) for Jubbaland and told MX same thing.

[Murax]

Voltage

What are you even talking about? You tried to use my words to somehow take a dig at Sahal and I informed you to man up and face him head on instead of trying to be smart and throw stuff and giggle. Listen here Mr I don’t what they have been feeding you at home but a few articulate words here and there do not work on me. I could care less about your courtesy. As for my personal info of my family, I have nothing to hide. I

Osob, kind of off the subject but please clap back @ Voltage in Somali. Your accent, and Mudulood girls accent is so sexy

Unlike the nasty masculine, Mudug, Waqooyi accent

[sahal80]

I don’t blame Xassan Sh for doing what he did. I was not a fan of Xassan Sh. A great PM like Cabdiwali Sh, he interfered in his job. But you can’t say he was qabiliste in the slightest. He told Mudulood stand down on HiirShabeele, so we don’t look like we’re empowering ourselves using shaati dawlad.


Farmaajo, similarly pushed Maxamed Oomar (Cawlyahan) for Jubbaland and told MX same thing.

kkk you are comparing Hirshabelle with the Kablalah state of JL that is also a kenyan buffer zone? i dont think in my life i will see mx leading JL.

Murax, no one needs naflacaari based on self aggrandising do you have documents to support your jealousy driven Theory?

in JL, FGS was backing mx in 2013 against a second pro kablalah state they were saying back then "we dont wanna another PL in the south" until hassan sh neutralized JL like madoobe getting appointed as a Governor untill....and then when they became allies he threw Barre Hiiraale under the bus

you are under OG for 13 years!

Mx were also badly divided and disorganized i remember when IGAD sent a fact finding delegation to Kismaayo they met southren mxs like awlibaax as one of saxiixayaasha JL this was the biggest factor in legitimizing Madoobe

now lets talk about Hirshabelle

Damjadiid Hiraabs wanted a second Hiraab State similar to the the second Kablalah State in JL they gave us fake capital like buaale wich is buuloburde. its librated but back then was completely under blockade now you have macawisleey who freed the dirt roads and countryside between jalalaqsi and buulaburde and the dirt road that connects it to maxaas. secondly the place that was holding shirka was jowhar so they wanted the admin to stay in Jowhar meantime they paid misleading visits to buuloburde talking about waiting the state house to be build in there. this tells you how they were serious. odowaa in buuloburde
https://goobjoog.com/faah-faahin-wafdi- ... e-hiiraan/

for Hirshabelle president they had 30 jir 30 million heesta the owner of hotel elite he is harti abgaal. he graduated from farah abdulkadir schools and al islah owned mogadishu university. no Hawadle leadership and real capital and they never let us pick baladweyne as the capital what the f-king non tribilism your talking about? wallahi my head exploides when i remember Hassan shs injustice against Hawadle.

all this qashinkaa la gu daray and we defeated Hiraab and damjadeed and Hassan sheekh for our unity. let alone hawadle we had control on yaryarka for a month for not attend shirka jowhar until the corrupt hassan sh gave them every thing at our expense like most parliament seats biggest injust committed by hassan sh against hawadle giving gaaljecel and gugundabe double of the hawadle seats what nin tribalism your talking about? he gave hiraab 27(Mudulood and HG) seats gaaljecel 12, gugundhabe 11 and hawadle 14!

we control bc we pay their wages but waa la duminaa dhawaan in hirshabellada cusib sida lafta gareen u dumiyay wixii sakiin iyo damjadiid dhiseen!!


he made their guys generals and safiiro gave their odayaal nice cars


YEYmT he was told " they dont represent Hiiraan until Hawadle is part of it"

here the mandate was given to IGAD who said the president is for Hawadle and the capital is Jowhar(Abgaal) this is the gentleman's agreement we are using NOW
former UN envoy revealing how hassan sh couldnt get away with his Hiraab state shit. he is just not right about the war on the galbeed side at that time wich was between westland-jijeele- and gaaljecel. we believe Damjadiid was behind it to give Bakadweybe vad image in favour of Jowhar. look now no wars in howlwadaag for 3.5 years but under hassan sh there were 4 wars between them and they all coincided with Hirshabelle formation. how thdy got started? some Gaaljecel officials appointed by odowaa was behind it. Hawadle supported jijeele resistance even under westland to keep al shabaab away and these gaaljecel guys fought the presence of non "official militias" in howlwadaag wich shows their connections with Damjadeed

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rxm ... le&f=false
very true
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... eelle/amp/
IGAD Negotions with Hawadle(Hiiraan)
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... -igad/amp/

wax cad hadaadan saas u hayn GTFO some IGAD supported Madoobe for you not biycitting the shir! blame yourself!

[Murax]

Ustaadh,

If you expect me to argue with you that MX is not the most disorganised, kala daadsan qabiil aan hadaf midaysan lahayn you will not get an argument from me. Maanta Mudulood, HG, OG, MJ, every clan in Somalia wey tashteen aan Marexaan ka ahayn. Unlike you I accept fair points, in the interest of fair debate instead of furious, triggered responses.

[Mk777]

I don’t blame Xassan Sh for doing what he did. I was not a fan of Xassan Sh. A great PM like Cabdiwali Sh, he interfered in his job. But you can’t say he was qabiliste in the slightest. He told Mudulood stand down on HiirShabeele, so we don’t look like we’re empowering ourselves using shaati dawlad.


Farmaajo, similarly pushed Maxamed Oomar (Cawlyahan) for Jubbaland and told MX same thing.

kkk you are comparing Hirshabelle with the Kablalah state of JL that is also a kenyan buffer zone? i dont think in my life i will see mx leading JL.

Murax, no one needs naflacaari based on self aggrandising do you have documents to support your jealousy driven Theory?

in JL, FGS was backing mx in 2013 against a second pro kablalah state they were saying back then "we dont wanna another PL in the south" until hassan sh neutralized JL like madoobe getting appointed as a Governor untill....and then when they became allies he threw Barre Hiiraale under the bus

you are under OG for 13 years!

Mx were also badly divided and disorganized i remember when IGAD sent a fact finding delegation to Kismaayo they met southren mxs like awlibaax as one of saxiixayaasha JL this was the biggest factor in legitimizing Madoobe

now lets talk about Hirshabelle

Damjadiid Hiraabs wanted a second Hiraab State similar to the the second Kablalah State in JL they gave us fake capital like buaale wich is buuloburde. its librated but back then was completely under blockade now you have macawisleey who freed the dirt roads and countryside between jalalaqsi and buulaburde and the dirt road that connects it to maxaas. secondly the place that was holding shirka was jowhar so they wanted the admin to stay in Jowhar meantime they paid misleading visits to buuloburde talking about waiting the state house to be build in there. this tells you how they were serious. odowaa in buuloburde
https://goobjoog.com/faah-faahin-wafdi- ... e-hiiraan/

for Hirshabelle president they had 30 jir 30 million heesta the owner of hotel elite he is harti abgaal. he graduated from farah abdulkadir schools and al islah owned mogadishu university. no Hawadle leadership and real capital and they never let us pick baladweyne as the capital what the f-king non tribilism your talking about? wallahi my head exploides when i remember Hassan shs injustice against Hawadle.

all this qashinkaa la gu daray and we defeated Hiraab and damjadeed and Hassan sheekh for our unity. let alone hawadle we had control on yaryarka for a month for not attend shirka jowhar until the corrupt hassan sh gave them every thing at our expense like most parliament seats biggest injust committed by hassan sh against hawadle giving gaaljecel and gugundabe double of the hawadle seats what nin tribalism your talking about? he gave hiraab 27(Mudulood and HG) seats gaaljecel 12, gugundhabe 11 and hawadle 14!

we control bc we pay their wages but waa la duminaa dhawaan in hirshabellada cusib sida lafta gareen u dumiyay wixii sakiin iyo damjadiid dhiseen!!


he made their guys generals and safiiro gave their odayaal nice cars


YEYmT he was told " they dont represent Hiiraan until Hawadle is part of it"

here the mandate was given to IGAD who said the president is for Hawadle and the capital is Jowhar(Abgaal) this is the gentleman's agreement we are using NOW
former UN envoy revealing how hassan sh couldnt get away with his Hiraab state shit. he is just not right about the war on the galbeed side at that time wich was between westland-jijeele- and gaaljecel. we believe Damjadiid was behind it to give Bakadweybe vad image in favour of Jowhar. look now no wars in howlwadaag for 3.5 years but under hassan sh there were 4 wars between them and they all coincided with Hirshabelle formation. how thdy got started? some Gaaljecel officials appointed by odowaa was behind it. Hawadle supported jijeele resistance even under westland to keep al shabaab away and these gaaljecel guys fought the presence of non "official militias" in howlwadaag wich shows their connections with Damjadeed

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rxm ... le&f=false
very true
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... eelle/amp/
IGAD Negotions with Hawadle(Hiiraan)
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... -igad/amp/

wax cad hadaadan saas u hayn GTFO some IGAD supported Madoobe for you not biycitting the shir! blame yourself!

Hhhhh haye sxb how will a fair hirshabelle look like? How will the seats be distributed?