Dollo demystified by a True Native

[Voltage]

I remember when i first saw this post I was ganna make a rebuttal on the territorial claims then I saw voltages post and I looked back at the picture and saw the marexaan land and burst out laughing. This thread was not my battle and I left it to the Daroods kkkkkkk

There is no territorial claims. To behonest Isaaq have been living the biggest lie since the British introduced Berkada or water catchments


They tried to build a burehole 3 X and for Habar.Yonis and it all failed. There is no permenant water or well south of Burco owned by Isaaq.

Matter of fact there is no permenant well between Cilaanle (the last Marehan borehole before Wardheer) and WARANDHAAB near Dhagaxbuur.

There ia no permenant water well between Marehan and Burco in northest-southeast line

There is no permenant water well between Marehan and Boothole. Simarly like.Boothoole, Galaadi is a wonder permenant deep water well but Majerten have no water affer Galaadi.

HAWD is a DESERT until the GU....where the daaq known as banaanka flourishes.

All the nomads will leave their deep permenant wells and graze in the gu but when JIILAAL comes Hawd becomes the water less OLdesert.

Caabudwaaq and Gallijeer (°Balanbale) are the two single most important wells in the Somali peninsula north of Shabelle.

After that Marehan took possession of the Buuro region (BURGEESOOLE, RAQO THE SINGLE EXISTING ABOVE GROUND.ACQUIFER in Hawd, GOLWEYN TO to Gumburu and CiLAANLE).

Literally Marehan IS THE ONLY CLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO LEAVE THE HAWD DURING JIILAAL OR DRY SEASON BECAUSE THEY OWN THE MAJORITY OF THE PERMENANT WATER SOURCE IN THE AREA.

And do simmer dowm.because what you call AWARO AND GAASHAAMO etc literally are like people on life support in a hospital.

They literally live on berked aystem or man made water catchments introduced by the British. They have literaly used up that land beyond the temporary breaking point which is why you said fights of over.qamadi there.

No insult. I will be expanding on thia but you do your own researchan and start with permenant water source. You qix start to really understand that.land.

Bother you are partly correct, for example saying, Isaaq has no well/Boorhole south of Burco.
BUT MJ and Dhulbahante always has WALWAAL WELLS, there are 10 Wells in Walwaal, MJ has 4 Wells in Walwaal, other 6Wells is used by Ogaden, Dhulbahante and Geri. Also MJ use Warder wells like GAAFO.
Other thing is the new WELLS, the new Mirkhallifa Wells/Borehole MJ USE THAT.
There is wells in Bali wanaag near Warder.
As recently as last week MJ especially Reer Khalaf opened new Borehole in Nagardale North East of Warder, near Walwaal.
Opened by Amiir Maxamud Yusuf Ciise, Amirka Reer Khalaf.
Nagardale is 10KM North East of Wardhere and 3km east of Walwaal.
So Get your Fact straight.
There many Harti WELLS/BOREHOLES around Warder.

Star, I don't think you understand my brother.

There is no permenant well in Wardheer. There is no permanent well in Walwaal. There is no permenant well in Bookh, there is no permentnat well in Danoot----entirely going north west until.Burco.

No one of you who wrote in this topic understand this profound fact.

Disclaimer: I am not posting this video for negative and destructive reasons related to how such things are waged online against each other by Somalis. I am postingig it simply to explain PERMANENT VS. SEASONAL WELLS.

Watch this video:



The man is Ogaadeen/Makaahiil. He says he came from one of the "7 wells" identified in this topic but the well is dry now and he came to Neefkuceliye for water in food but (as he alleges Marehan control the wells and location and are acting inhospitably)

Now my question is why is WAAFDUUG dry and without water?

This is literally at the CENTER of the entire misinformation reality which started since colonialism made lines and spheres of influence.

Guhad doesn't even realize even thE MAPS drawn by the British were misinformation.

For EXAMPLE;

1. Somalis are nomadd there not sedentary farmers.
2. The LESS WATER available to you, THE LONGER THE TREK.
3. Also, there are two IMPORTANT SEASONS; dry or JIILAAL and Wet or Gu.

4. In JIILAAL, clans are at their PERMENANT WELLS and are not stretched out. The more access to WATER IN YOUR PERMENANT WELLS, THE LESS SPREAD OUT becausr there is enough for the clan.
5. In that moment, THE SMALLER THE LAND LOOKS, THE MORE IT MEANS CLANS HAVE ENOUGH WATER IN ONE OR CLOSE LOCATIONS, the MORE IT SAYS THE CLAN WAS POWERFUL
TO GET THAT WATER RICH AREA
It is like our HIBERNATION period, to survive the dry season, we are in our one or close permenant water area WE KNOW we can survive the jilaal

6. In GU, clans will LEAVE their permenant wells that saved them during dry season. This is because THE PASTURE OR DAAQ NEEDS TO RECOVER otherwise camels have no food.
7. CLANS will spread out a little to get fresh pasture becausr in GU even very dry areas will get some rain.
8. SIMILARLY, the MORE BOUNTY CLOSE BY, THE LESS THE CLAN HAS TO TRAVEL AND THE LESS THE DISTANCE TO THEIR PERMENANT WELLS WHICH IS BACKUP

9. The FARTHER the clans travel, the LESS WATER OR DAAQ availableto them THE WEAKER they must have been for not taking better land

10. So EVEN WHEN IN THE YEAR THE MAP IS MADE, let alone EVEN THE PERCEPTION MEANT BY "TERRITORY" was misinformation by the British

11. It IS LITERALLY focking crazy how MISINFORMED completrly IGNORANT we Somalis are about even recent history

12. In TIME, I will be contextualizing this with original material in my Gedo Section topic,

[Starabdi]

Beenaale, walaahey inaadan Walwaal agteeda imaan karin kaatib. Dhabayaco beenta waa lagu yaqaan. The place reer Khalaf dag the well is almost 45 KM east of Wardheer. It is near Galxumur. There was actually discussion about that well, and order came from JigJiga.

As for the map above, it is from the Human Rights Watch and it is official. I posted the source of the map.
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files ... 0608_1.pdf


Anyways, have you spoken with Wardheer lately? The few Majeerteens in there are living in fear to the point that they have requested assistance from the Ethiopian Federal military. They can't even trust the local state Liyuu police.

As for the famous slogan "Balan balayeey bankii qoraxeey Biciid Yahan Baara lahaa degay", If you actually know the history of that mantra, you wouldn't bring it up in a public forum. Let me explain this to you. In 1935 when the Italians overpowered and took over Ethiopia in the second Ethiopia-Italy war, they came in two fronts; from Eritrea and from what was then Italian Somaliland. Actually, the biggest base of the Italians with thousands of Majeerteen foot soliders was Geladi. Read the history. So, the Italians captured wal-wal, wardheer, Qabri-Dahar and so on. They had thousands of modern weapons and artillery and was led by the famous Graziani general. The city of Garasyaani was named after that general. He is the man who bombed Harar and took over the entire eastern regions of Ethiopia. So, Dhabayaco being the foot soldiers for the enemy all the time, they were with the Italians. When they arrived Banka Qoraxeey, the locals attacked them and captured few Reer Biciid Yahan foot soldiers. They wouldn't believe that Gaalka Baarada leh was a Somali and from a clan called Reer Biciid yahan. When the Italians proceeded to the west, they left their Somali foot soldiers to protect the captured cities. As soon as the Italians left, they were all captured, some of them surrendered willingly. Actually, that is how the Buraashadleey came about. Some of them learned the religion and became religious scholars and stayed behind and have lived all over the OG lands. That is the Banka Qoraxeey story. Balanbalay in that region means a chant for war to the locals to stand up and defend the land. My grandfather was actually wounded in Walwaal in that war as 18 year old man in 1935. If you are a proud of that history, I guess you are also proud of the Mahbar atrocities against innocent Somalis.

It is good that Makaahiil is finally realizing the deceptions of Dhabayaco under the premises of the bogus Kabta iyo Laxda. The two biggest clans that should defend Doollo from the marauding bugs like you are Abraahiin and Ismaaciil Gumcadle, and for the past 20 years or so, the Ethiopian enemy and their lackey mannequins have created distrust between the two Makaahiil powerhouses. That will be sorted out soon, Insha Alaah. Ismaaciil was responsible from anything from the South of the Galaadi road, and Abraahiim anything to the North, and the plan has always been to keep the insects at Galadi and Bookh boundaries.
These two great OG abwaans ably pointed out what Majeerteen has been, still is, and will always be; treacherous and deceitful creatures.

Doqo Doqo!!
you need to educate yourself, read the map, maybe you cannot read.
Warder to Galhaumur 260KM. Galhamur 40KM to Border near Qoriley, Saxdeer, Sool, Somalia.
Tell me where is Nagardale!!!!!!!
IS 3KM outside WALWAAL,
Centerka Mire is Close to Walwaal.
Dhagayocade is near Daratoole,
Toon Xabaal near WALWAAL
Kunturle is near Daratoole
UULE near Warder.
Digirnale is in between Dartoole and WALWAAL.
Those are just Centerada MJ north of Warder.
WALWAAL AND Warder are HARTI place.

[guhad122]

Voltage:
I am not sure how many times I have advised you to seek help and take a break from Somalinet. I joined Somalinet back in 2007, at that time, your nickname was something Sade, and then you had the Republic and Voltage. On each of those profiles, I would say an average you might have logged at least 20,000 posts on each. I am yet to hit the 5K. How is that possible? Somalidu waxay ku maahmaadaa “Af daboolani waa dahab”. Writing and uttering so much nonsense leads to confusion and brain drain. That is the reason I am al having hard time understating your belvederes. On the above statements, are you trying to explain to us the seasons in East Africa, their names, how the wells work? How the pastoralists move around depending on the availability of water and grazing areas? What is the message you are trying to convey? Yes, there are permanent wells that are always full of water and never need expensive drilling motors to fetch the water. Both Wardheer and Walwaal have some of the best wells in the entire Hawd region.
As for the poor man in the video, he is Mareexaan, Reeer Cismaan. He actually was a camel-herder for his brother-in-law as his sister is married to an Ismaaciil Gumcadle dude. They have posted this video on all their forums getting kicks on his acting skills. I can tell you his name Walaahay, but I am not gonna do that in public forum. This was recorded right after Burgeesoole incidents, and it is not the only acting video the desperate Mareexaans posted. Here is another one. Look the flag behind him, also is Shilaabo qabale? Axmed Madoobe ku lahaa….lol…..if you listen carefully, the person who is interviewing him and probably recording the video is the same one recording and interviewing in your video.

Tankale, why are you trolling my thread because you have nothing to do with Doollo? Where do you settle in Doollo? Do you have a district? Come on man; let me deal with the Dhabayaco who have Bookh and Gelaadi in Doollo. At least they are a stakeholder, albeit a minor one.

Dhabayac:
Majeerteen has nothing to do with Miir Khaliifo. The only motorized well in the town is owned and manned by Makaahiil. Because Ismaaciil Gumcadle have so many other villages in the vicinity of Miir Khaliifo, and it is the rainy season, the well is now shutdown. Come Jiilaal, only Makaahiil will come to Miir Khaliifo. Yes, both Mareexaan and Dhabayaco reach there for daaqsin, but that is about it. The big battle back in 2004, Walaahay I am not gonna lie, Reer Biciid Yahan lost so bad that they almost fled Galaadi. That war is known as Dabarogoto because every single Majeerteen died fleeing. Of the 60 plus men that died in that last decisive battle, over 47 of them were Majeerteen oo Walaahey ah. You have no idea what happened in that war. If it were not Ina-Duulane who was the President of DDS at the time, Gelaadi would have been captured. He came personally to stop his clan in advancing as he was pressured from Addis. Ask any Ogaadeen or Absame person in Gaal Kacyo at that time, they all fled to the South Side under the protection of Sacad after Cumar Maxamuud killed two businesspersons because of the Miir Khaliifo wars.
As for Nagaardaale, you are indeed oblivious about Doollo and its surroundings. NagarDaale is near Dhaqayaboor and Cagaarweyne. It is at least 80KM from Wardheer. Are you serious dude? What is your Majeerteen sub clan because now I doubt that you are even Majeerteen if you do not know where Nagardaale is? Do you know Dhaqayaboor? As for Gaafoow, it is a bali, and since the few Buraashleey Dhabayacos in Wardheer don’t have wells in Wardheer, they used to fetch their water from the Gaafoow bali. That is no longer the case. it is now exclusive to Ismaaciil Gumcadle. Even though I am not from Ismaaciil Gumcadle, but I heard their plan is to close the Gelaadi road completely. What are you gonna do about that?
In this poem, the great poet Gandaal claims that Dhabayaco is from Flasha people. No wonder!
•Daaroodna waa wada ogyahay, magac la waalkiiye
•Walidkiin wasiir iyo haddaan, kuu walcamo sheego
•Waqdabkiin wuxuu yahay Falaash,
•Winiqdaani baa idin dhashaye, weydaan garanayne
•Waligayna waa saa ma odhan, been la waaridiye
•Wax la hubo wixii aan ahayn, wayga caaridiye

[Voltage]

Sxb, you are ALWAYS angry at me and I have done nothing to you.

You are ALWAYS personal with me and I have done nothing to you.

All I have done is share thoughts and I have done it without any malice or consideration to you as an individual beyond the thoughts you share as part of public discussion.

So please, if you hadn't heard it before, stop getting personal with me and stop displacing malice towards my person.

With that said, what I wrote above is pretty much common knowledge which is 100% affirmed by all nomadic Somalis.

If you disagree with that and find it nonsense, I assure you,you will have a hard time with the information becoming more and more available in this information age.

Finally, there is no importance to Wardeer and no importance to Walwaal and to Dollow beyond it becoming the boundary or fault line which different powers hyped up the relevance and specifically to their side to advance the case for expanding control.

There is no PERMENAMT WELL in entire Dollow.

Do you not understand what this means?

This is a British intelligence map of the land during the Mad Mullah campaign. It is from 1909.

Safsaf is today Caabudwaaq and Gallijeer is exactly.the well that became Balanbale.

Look at the equity in water availability.

Marehan has 365-days access to Water.

You were once generous enough to give Marehan alleged control to Raqo once. Look st Raqo sxb.

Look at Bah Geri sxb and how far they came for Dhaan. They came all the way to Gallijeer which the British label with water "Always remains."

I understand EVEN what it means to be in the land clans are in TODAY and what that says 300 years ago.

The longest and most important linkage of Permanent water NORTH OF THE SHABELLE is a crescent shape succession of the most important water system in the Peninsula.

It's from Las Anod to Buuhoodle to.Bacaadweyn/Galaadi to.Gaalkacyo to Casbudwaaq and Balambale.

You can even imagine that the further south the Marehan and Harti are it means the more south the clan the more the clan might have first found water...then hosted brothers who followed..only to find more water and venture out thereby getting bigger share and leaving hosted brothers to the previous water all to themselves.

It has to be that way because the further south the crescent goes the more the water equity.

In any case, beyond those historica theories? The actual facts are not theories but established facts and they are all available.

I hope to introduce this information over time. They are extensive

Again, the only important to wardeer is DAAQ during wet season..to replenish spent pasture when clans were in their permenant wells during dry season.

It is literally having a home and going on vacation because you need a change of scene to which you then come back to home.

Wardheer is a DESERT during dry season which is why Makaahiil originally was at Galaadi half the time.

Galaad is a permenant well. Wardeer is not. The closest permenant well when you pass Cilaanle.of Marehan is WARANDHAAB IN DHAGAXBUUR and QABRI DAHARE.

You do not understand even the basic facts of this issue beyond the false narrative based on nothing but colonial area discourse SET by colonists intentionally to legitimize expanding control.

Again, even I didn't understand it until this year.

[dalalos101]

Guhad

Madoobe involvement in Doollo, Qoraxeey and Liban for the last 8 years is very well known, I'm not surprised of your lack of knowledge since you are a low ranking makahiil and your people are used when ever needed and neglected when not needed, focus on your Makahiil interest and do not get sucked into major conflict and political wars you do not understand, your people need qamadi and their land back from Majerten, that's it, walaahay its a shame 2020 Majerten is claiming Wardheer adigoo nool and they have taken all the land north and east from Wardheer from you as well. At least now you say F kablalax I guess better late than never.

Voltage

iskaga dhex bax dadkaan fowdo iyo wareerka reer siyaadka lagu yaqaano meeshan ma looga baahna, you clearly see he has turned his venom against Dhaboyaco yet you insist on making him your enemy ? this is my problem with you, when I give you advice you ignore it and then you say ba'ayee tolbeelay later on.

[ReerGarowe]

Kablalax unity is untouchable

[dalalos101]

Kablalax unity is untouchable

Ogaden use to be fierce warriors back in the day and would never claim Kab iyo Lax that is fake thing recently introduced, this was back in the day when their physical prowess meant something, for example the Rer Dalal of Rer Cabdulle were undisputed warriors and feared by everyone, this was back in the day when we use to fight with swords and spears, the Ogaden women was also highly priced due to their beauty and high quality genes giving you sons that can fight. Today the Rer Dalal of Rer Cabdulle have nothing, they are one of the most marginilized groups within Ogaden forget about Makaahil, they lost 90% of their land to MJ.

[Murax]

Theres this OG Oday I met overseas. Major Madoobe supporter, collects money for him, has pictures with Ethiopian foreign ministry, etc. There was MJ, Dhulbahante there so they asked his abtirsi he was like hebel, hebel Darood. They were like ‘maxaad ka booday Kablalax?’ He was like ‘Kabalalax waxaan uun istacmaalnaa markan Marexaan la dagaalayno. There was a Cisman Maxmanuud guy the other Harti were acknowledging as ‘Boqor’ and he was like aniga Boqor i maaha Lol. You guys reminded me of this story.

[dalalos101]

Theres this OG Oday I met overseas. Major Madoobe supporter, collects money for him, has pictures with Ethiopian foreign ministry, etc. There was MJ, Dhulbahante there so they asked his abtirsi he was like hebel, hebel Darood. They were like ‘maxaad ka booday Kablalax?’ He was like ‘Kabalalax waxaan uun istacmaalnaa markan Marexaan la dagaalayno. There was a Cisman Maxmanuud guy the other Harti were acknowledging as ‘Boqor’ and he was like aniga Boqor i maaha Lol. You guys reminded me of this story.

I have alot of Ogaden relatives when they see a Majerten utter the word Ilkayar they slap them across the face and tell them only I can say that dhaboyaco bowdyagaab yahow.

We Rer Dalal Ugaas got the name calling from our Rer Awoowe real talk, we call them ilkodheer and we have a special name for the makaahil will not utter it here though as we have a peace treaty with them

[AbdiWahab252]

Guhad speaks the truth. The territory is Makahil and will always remain so. It is part of the Sacad Lebensraum and any attempt to change the facts on the ground will activate the Walalaha Wardheer defense treaty

[dalalos101]

Guhad speaks the truth. The territory is Makahil and will always remain so. It is part of the Sacad Lebensraum and any attempt to change the facts on the ground will activate the Walalaha Wardheer defense treaty

makaahiil are right now fighting against majerten, not some strange majerten but the same ones who were brought into gaalkacyo as a defense against Sacad.

Makaahil need to push all the way to gaalkacyo and join galmudug as Rer Dalal we welcome this as Makaahiil aren't our enemies but confused Rer Abti who we had minor issue with

[AbdiWahab252]

Dalalos

Or at the minimum eradicate Kablalaxism west of the Shabelle.

[dalalos101]

Dalalos

Or at the minimum eradicate Kablalaxism west of the Shabelle.

Kablalaxism is dying it only exist to be used against the might of Marehan in Jubaland particularly Lower Jubba, Kismaayo, it does not exist anywhere else in Somali lands, this is why we Rer Dalal who lost the most in Kismaayo made an alliance with Cayr to get safe passed through Hawiye land and we brought heavy weapons and soldiers with us to captured Kismaayo, it was an unholy alliance and Cayr captured entire lower Shabelle from Barawe to Marka, these type of unholy alliances exist all over Somali lands, but they don't all make sense like the Kablalax-Hiraab alliance against the might of Marehan looking to secure Jubaland

[AbdiWahab252]

Dalalos

Kabalaxax - Hiiraab? Its like a Trump Republican in Vermont, rare

[STARKAST]

MJ in Galbeed ,Jubbas, waaqoyi iyo caasimada.

Can't knock the hustle.. Beesha you should be proud not calaacal....