my issue with farmaajo

[Mustafee101]

You can't really blame Farmaajo when the affected people are quite as a mouse. Blame reer Gedo. They don't make the necessary noise to get what they deserve from the government. They blindly support every government so they always end up being taken for granted.

Also they don't know their priorities. Look at Facebook and see how many reer Gedo idiots, some even from Baardheere, calling for help for Qardho while not bringing up the situation in Baardheere/Buurdhuubo at all.

With that said, in my opinion, assistance from NGOs and the government is overrated and not really as important as we think. Reer Baardhere have dealt with floods for generations and they will recover from it as they have always done.

They are not quite at all. It is all over the media. The so-called government should’ve know what is happening in the country. Just today, Farmaajo sent one million to Qardho and people of Qardho don’t even support him

[GuleedWarsame]

I understand the criticism against Farmaajo. He has not even visited Gedo once yet been all over the country. But this issue is beyond Farmaajo. All governments previously seemed to be allergic to help Gedo. I think discussing solutions is more fruitful than point fingers to reer hebel etc.

Gedo needs parties or political pressure groups that can deal with someone who is elected in our name but failed to do their job. We need to try to replace them without any naxariis.

[Jimbie]

The only reason I still have some support for Farmaajo is because he has the chance to depose Ahmed madobe. If his time ends without him getting rid of madobe, his presidency is waste as far as besha goes

Ogadeen have successfully hijacked the isbaldadoon movement in jubbaland. They have represented xiddig and seraar as the mucaarads. And now the international community has fully backed ahmed madoobe.




It's to late for the government.

To be honest I gave up on N&N. Khayre is the one sending money to everywhere except Gedo And CW ... Watch them bay pass Gedo leadership and send bardhere funds straight to Ahmed madobe loooool

[Murax]

We have shyt Mps who paid laaluush to the Odayaal dhaqameed for their seats just like most of the whole parliament. You think they give a damn about Gedo? Smart people play people off of each other until they achieve their objective. Tell N&N either you immediately give Baardheere the gurmad Qardho got or we’re completely throwing our weight behind the Mucaarad. On the other side of the phone you have the mucaarad and you’re making contingency plans. Don’t forget folks Marexaan have one of the largest single clan mps in parliamentary. N&N could not take that blow, and the checkbook would’ve been opened. But like I said, if you have so called mps who’s biggest concern is their next qaad session, shaxaad scheme what are you going to do?



Nomand,

You’re just spitting truth, Rageedi

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

As long as Farmaajo comes through on some of our main interests he'll be successful in my book. I got nothing but respect and high regards for the guy and know very well that he's aware of how many enemies we have so I will hold off on any criticisms I have until after this term. This coronavirus pandemic has delayed some of those plans but they will happen inevitably.

Aar Sade soo rogaal celi seexan meyna weligeen

[Nomand]

We have shyt Mps who paid laaluush to the Odayaal dhaqameed for their seats just like most of the whole parliament. You think they give a damn about Gedo? Smart people play people off of each other until they achieve their objective. Tell N&N either you immediately give Baardheere the gurmad Qardho got or we’re completely throwing our weight behind the Mucaarad. On the other side of the phone you have the mucaarad and you’re making contingency plans. Don’t forget folks Marexaan have one of the largest single clan mps in parliamentary. N&N could not take that blow, and the checkbook would’ve been opened. But like I said, if you have so called mps who’s biggest concern is their next qaad session, shaxaad scheme what are you going to do?



Nomand,

You’re just spitting truth, Rageedi

i agree brothers and thanks

but this has massively backfired on N&N, never have i seen marehan this angry, all the heavyweights that use to defend N&N are now at best neutral to them, some as far as thanking madoobe, abdishakur, sheikh shariff and hassan sheikh for speaking about baardheere.

since N&N took office three floods happened in gedo,

first in doolow and they sent 100,000, second in baardheere during the time beledweyne floods and they sent nothing and said nothing. but we understood that one because the beledweyne was more of a concern.

but now it is totally different, and the people have finally understood the power of mucaaridinmo. N&N lost a lot of supports because of baardheere, supporters that day and night spent defending the government from fake news. but this is all gone now.

[Nomand]

The only reason I still have some support for Farmaajo is because he has the chance to depose Ahmed madobe. If his time ends without him getting rid of madobe, his presidency is waste as far as besha goes

Ogadeen have successfully hijacked the isbaldadoon movement in jubbaland. They have represented xiddig and seraar as the mucaarads. And now the international community has fully backed ahmed madoobe.




It's to late for the government.

To be honest I gave up on N&N. Khayre is the one sending money to everywhere except Gedo And CW ... Watch them bay pass Gedo leadership and send bardhere funds straight to Ahmed madobe loooool

if any funds where being sent then they would probably send to madoobe, but the government does not care about gedo or marehan.

remember poeple in buurdhoobe where dying because of the lack of healthcare

this is what N&N thinks of Marehan.

[Murax]

Nomand,

The only area I slightly disagree with you is on the blame placement. Me, I ALWAYS blame the victim when they have a choice NOT to be victims. All Marexaan are complicit from diaspora, to odayaal, to qashin Mps. Farmaajo, Kheyre want re-election so their Qardho igu sawir is to be expected. Whats the excuse for Marexaan representation?

[Nomand]

Murax

Sxb I agree with you, Marehan as a whole have failed badly, from the ugaas to xildibaan to president farmaajo to even us in the west.

I just hope marehan open their eyes, build their land and stop supporting the government unconditionally.

The good thing is this will open the eyes for many marehan. Marehan today is where isaaq was in 1991 and majerteen in 1998. Marehan should never look at Mogadishu ever again as the answer to anything.

Isxilqaan is needed. Majerteen from bosaaso to gaalkayco have sent supplies to qardho while marehan in caabudwaaq/ garbaharay/ kismaayo/ beledxaawo are not doing anything for baardheere.

No other clan has sent anything to baardheere either. But caabudwaaq sent supplies to flooding of beledweeyne. This clearly shows what other clans think of marehan. Sxb we need to be selfish.

[nine]

You can't really blame Farmaajo when the affected people are quite as a mouse. Blame reer Gedo. They don't make the necessary noise to get what they deserve from the government. They blindly support every government so they always end up being taken for granted.

Also they don't know their priorities. Look at Facebook and see how many reer Gedo idiots, some even from Baardheere, calling for help for Qardho while not bringing up the situation in Baardheere/Buurdhuubo at all.

With that said, in my opinion, assistance from NGOs and the government is overrated and not really as important as we think. Reer Baardhere have dealt with floods for generations and they will recover from it as they have always done.

They are not quite at all. It is all over the media. The so-called government should’ve know what is happening in the country. Just today, Farmaajo sent one million to Qardho and people of Qardho don’t even support him

During Farmajo's election campaign I said to other Marehans I'm not sure if he wants Marehanimo. But I threw my weight behind him. I stopped in 2018 when he installed .5 in a Marehan position because it was clear he doesn't care about tol. Go to Xamar Farmajo is in baabuur madow Marehan ma yaqaano while Khayre is empowering his clan

[Nomand]

murax one other thing is that these MPS where named by ahmed madoobe and follow ahmed madoobe. the government today just got rid of the buurdoobe DC and garbaharay DC (both madoobe men) and replaced them. gedo maamul have now reached baardheere and will name new DC for that. then only ceelwaaq will be left at the hands of madoobe men. when that happens marehan will name their own MPS. because it was these thugs that forced the elders to name madoobe followers as marehan MPS.



the garbaharey DC put up a fight today



so i think, what the government has done has benefited us

1) getting rid of madoobe men in gedo
2) to show us to do isilxqaan and never look at mogadishu for answers again and to be mucaarad.

[dalalos101]

We have shyt Mps who paid laaluush to the Odayaal dhaqameed for their seats just like most of the whole parliament. You think they give a damn about Gedo? Smart people play people off of each other until they achieve their objective. Tell N&N either you immediately give Baardheere the gurmad Qardho got or we’re completely throwing our weight behind the Mucaarad. On the other side of the phone you have the mucaarad and you’re making contingency plans. Don’t forget folks Marexaan have one of the largest single clan mps in parliamentary. N&N could not take that blow, and the checkbook would’ve been opened. But like I said, if you have so called mps who’s biggest concern is their next qaad session, shaxaad scheme what are you going to do?



Nomand,

You’re just spitting truth, Rageedi

I agree with your first part, Rer Jubaland have shit MPs, Senators and local administration, even Dhaqanka is shit, that is what I have been focusing on in this thread, and that is what you guys should be focused on. You are not even discussing it ? why ? so quick to run to Farmaajo, also don't generalize MX Rer Galmudug are light years ahead of Rer Jubaland, learn from them saxibayal.

I disagree with your second part, you don't need to be mucarad to get something from the SFG, you just need to be organised I already told you and it starts with you Murax and all the people doing calaacal, Turbulance said it best, Rer Jubaland Shacab are still mostly OLD MAREHAN you have of which you are one of, so I would say forget about the your representatives for now, focus on the grass roots, Farmaajo is not your enemy, and you threatening with mucaradnimo is retarded your representatives are already mucarad, yacni the fact you don't know this tells me you are OLD MAREHAN.

Guul to NEW MAREHAN, walahi they have their work cut out for them, they are fighting on so many fronts it isn't even funny.

Listen from 8:39

[dalalos101]

murax one other thing is that these MPS where named by ahmed madoobe and follow ahmed madoobe. the government today just got rid of the buurdoobe DC and garbaharay DC (both madoobe men) and replaced them. gedo maamul have now reached baardheere and will name new DC for that. then only ceelwaaq will be left at the hands of madoobe men. when that happens marehan will name their own MPS. because it was these thugs that forced the elders to name madoobe followers as marehan MPS.



the garbaharey DC put up a fight today



so i think, what the government has done has benefited us

1) getting rid of madoobe men in gedo
2) to show us to do isilxqaan and never look at mogadishu for answers again and to be mucaarad.

Look how long it took you to get to this, still some hope for you, detox is working I guess, this is why I don't jump to calling you sheegato just because you are wrong on somethings, I just educate and inform people not do takoor like Voltage does, I suggest in future you start listening to those more informed than you and with actual links, also my opinions are not my own it is NEW MAREHAN movement it is not Dalalos being an outlier, there is big war and debate between NEW MAREHAN and OLD MAREHAN, so when I tell you we have already taken over Rer Galmudug and we are fighting Rer Jubaland OLD MAREHAN, you should ask who are these people fighting against each other instead of thinking I am saying Rer Galmudug fighting Rer Jubaland, it is ideological and physiological fight, we are detoxing Marehan from 50 years of filth, it isn't exactly a joke ting, by the way OLD MAREHAN is everywhere, they are 90% of Marehan shacab, they are MPs, they are in N&N they are everywhere, its a way of thinking that it is anti-Marehan, while NEW MAREHAN is a pro-Marehan way of thinking and they are a tiny minority making big moves.

[dalalos101]

Voltage

the point of my contribution to this thread was not to defend Farmaajo his record is being document as I type this and I will discuss his contributions to MX in private setting or when he is no longer incumbent, the point I was making was to highlight the short coming of Rer Jubaland, and I give my two cents of how to fix it by comparing it to Rer Galmudug.

Before I did that Turbulance hit the nail on its head, and said where are the grass root collectives ? he is right ! but I went further and said they are almost non-existent, is Bardheere a major Marehan town or is it some village in TPLF era Doollo ? come on guys wake up and smell the coffee, Rer Bardheere are dumb deaf and blind, and its their fault. This is constructive criticism, I want them to develop reputable grass roots collective like youth and women organisations, elders council,I want them to make demands of the representatives locally and federal level and elect those who benefit Beesha. Once that shit is done, they will get their pound of flesh.

Imagine if Farmaajo pours 2 million dollars into a project in Bardheere, who does he give it to, yeah thats how bad it is, me highlighting issues with local administration, local representatives and federal representatives is to make you guys wake up, there are people who are not only eating on Marehans name, but even working against Marehan, and they are your own corrupt representatives ! hold them to account that is all I am saying.

You, Generalized Marehan politicians and said they are pretty much all useless, well thats a lie ! only Turbulance hit he nail on the head and got it right first try, ReturnofMariixman went straight for the SFG, I think he knows better than anyone the slow grueling efforts of this government in Gedo in particular, what we are dealing with is Rer Hassan and Rer Ahmed who cannot even see Rer Diini due to decades of corruption and they want to be just as corrupt now, we are dealing with Rer Garad completely marginalized and become Alshabab, we are dealing with Cali Dheere getting attacked by Kenya, we are dealing with Rer Diini in Gedo who are so steeped in corruption that I think its best we just don't even talk about them for a while. On top of that we are dealing with external enemies exploiting the shit out of the situation.

DO NOT BLAME THAT ON FARMAAJO, BLAME IT ON YOURSELVES

What do you mean reer Garaad waa shbaab nacasyahow naga amuus

This is will become a future discussion, Rer Garad are tolkay I am not attacking your subclan, I am just highlighting how it has been done dirty in Power Sharing in Jubaland.

By the way, Rer Dalal are still 50/50 Al Itixaad and Suufi, we had some of the brutal internal wars both in Caabudwaaq and in Jubaland, long before Madoobe, two brothers one a Suufi and one and Al Itixaad were shooting to kill each other in Gedo, this shows you ideologically Marehan as a whole has been messed up, do you think the Al Itixaad have been defeated in Caabudwaaq, they haven't they have just been expelled by the Suufis, and they are just waiting to launch an attack.

But NEW MAREHAN is going get rid of both of them, both Al Itixaad and Suufi are under going detox and reeducation so there won't be future clash and they will be brainwashed into NEW MAREHAN recruits, this is classified stuff, but just like the OLD MAREHAN we are at war with both those ideologies, we cannot have our tol be used against each other and against us, this is why we are working behind the scenes, our biggest enemy are not even Suufis or Alitixaad mentality, heck even Shabaab who are killing our people are not our main target, we are fighting the OLD MAREHAN that is the main reason why these ideologies have even had a way to seep into Beesha in the first place, OLD MAREHAN is the true enemy.

Rer Garad will not only get representation but they will play a major role in Jubaland, you heard it here first.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

We have shyt Mps who paid laaluush to the Odayaal dhaqameed for their seats just like most of the whole parliament. You think they give a damn about Gedo? Smart people play people off of each other until they achieve their objective. Tell N&N either you immediately give Baardheere the gurmad Qardho got or we’re completely throwing our weight behind the Mucaarad. On the other side of the phone you have the mucaarad and you’re making contingency plans. Don’t forget folks Marexaan have one of the largest single clan mps in parliamentary. N&N could not take that blow, and the checkbook would’ve been opened. But like I said, if you have so called mps who’s biggest concern is their next qaad session, shaxaad scheme what are you going to do?



Nomand,

You’re just spitting truth, Rageedi

I agree with your first part, Rer Jubaland have shit MPs, Senators and local administration, even Dhaqanka is shit, that is what I have been focusing on in this thread, and that is what you guys should be focused on. You are not even discussing it ? why ? so quick to run to Farmaajo, also don't generalize MX Rer Galmudug are light years ahead of Rer Jubaland, learn from them saxibayal.

I disagree with your second part, you don't need to be mucarad to get something from the SFG, you just need to be organised I already told you and it starts with you Murax and all the people doing calaacal, Turbulance said it best, Rer Jubaland Shacab are still mostly OLD MAREHAN you have of which you are one of, so I would say forget about the your representatives for now, focus on the grass roots, Farmaajo is not your enemy, and you threatening with mucaradnimo is retarded your representatives are already mucarad, yacni the fact you don't know this tells me you are OLD MAREHAN.

Guul to NEW MAREHAN, walahi they have their work cut out for them, they are fighting on so many fronts it isn't even funny.

Listen from 8:39

I will not stop until SADEism is the dominant ideology amongst MX. I can't believe my ideology is taking root.