State Apology to Janaan, Reintegration?

[Murax]

Dalalos,

Where you're wrong is that Farmaajo had to recognize Madoobe. He didn't, Abdullahi Yusuf who was the President of a Transitional Government didn't recognize Marexaan in Kismaayo. Tbh he's dead, AUN but I was really not a fan of him and that's a understatement. I lost a Adeer defending Balanbale from Xabashi, SSDF. But that said you won't find too many people who loved their Tol as much as him, and even if it meant he was going to fall from grace and be forced out of Presidency, He would never concede MX hegemoney in Kismaayo ever. So I guess that's kin of unfair. MSB AUN kept empowered Hawiye business wise, Isaaq in the beginning with development while neglecting Marexaan lands. But he did put Marexaan in charge of the Army, Defense institutions, Marexaan was the chain of command and the red berets. This also helped out for post war hositilites with Marexaan being armed and able to defend themselves, not become looma ooyan.


That said where I agree is blaming Farmaajo for Marexaans lack of plan is silly. Our kala danbayn la'aan, shytty representaiton, caadeqaateyaal were there before and after Farmaajo. Nine, myself and all Marexaan always defend him from the people who hate on him for no other reason than waa nin Marexaan Sade ah. Last thing your understanding of how the mps come are wrong. We in the diaspora have nothing to do with it. The so called Odayaal dhaqameed pick them, and they charge $2,000 a vote. I know one of them who paid 60k for his seat. A Marexana lawyer in Kenya paid it. As long as we have a system where these Odayaal dhaqameed bastards can pick our leaders we will have serious isuses. Hopefully with 1 man 1 vote, that will change.


Nine was referring to what a lo of Marexaan feel, feeling used and abused, looking for FGS backing against Kenya/Dhuxul Trader only for Farmaajo to recognize him for what seems to be his political career. Unlike Abdullahi Yusuf who sacrificed it so as to never undermine his Tol. You're not being daacad if you don't see both sides!

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

No more support for FGS Farmajo did not visit Gedo. Being iska daacad supporting every government is useless we should be mucaarad.

That’s the thing, he did what he had to do I get it but what’s our move? Beesha we’re not chess piece pawns you can move wherever you want. Beesha was promised Mucalimow will be empowered with direct aid to Gedo, until Jubbaland xalaal ah is built. Then you officially recognize the dhuxul trader’s dominion over Gedo?

AY was a President, had entire Hawiye against him, zero allies and needed us. Did he recognize us? Nope because he never forgets tolkiis.


I agree with you we need to inaan aayaheena ka tashano. Theres no Barre Hiiraales, MSB AUN coming down that hall. Beesha should immediately release a statement saying we don’t recognize this as far as Gedo is concerned period.

Kablalax and Hawiye politicians know what 4.5 is they help their clans.
I think our politicians are retards. Why are they trying to work for dadweynaha iyo shacabka somaaliyeed yaa u diray?

Dude it's a southern problem. All southie clans are masakiin. What the hell did hsm n Shariif do for Abgaal?

[Jimbie]

This Autistic gov fooled around for 4years only to bend the knee last minute.


What a waste of 4 years... in hindsight N&N fooled their support base into thinking they could get rid of Madobe without getting rid of Kenya first

[dalalos101]

Farmajo nacala ku yaal doqon waxmatare useless for Beesha I called this two years ago what did he do for us

I am free from you waryaa

This is why you are not NGM, because you make these low IQ comments, Farmaajo soma ahan Madaxweynaha Dalka, how can you put him in the same league as representative whose sole job is to represent us, your criticism of Farmaajo is unfounded and disgraceful, you hate him because he is Rer Dalal and you are Rer Koshin, you are jealous, stop the juffo xan waryaa, ma adigaa Rer Dalal gaara calaacal iyo maseer wax ahayn ugama deereysid Beesha Dalal Ugaas, you have an MP you never talk about your eedo, I will expose her waryaa najis yahow, Farmaajo afkaaga ka dhow, diini yaryar baa tahay, tolnimada wanaaji, juffojufaysiga naga daa

The MP waa mafia I was told about her nigga idc waxaa ka qorto I'm not a sub clannist like you. Ceeb weeye to call your own qabiil yaryar. Reer Koshin dad jiffaysi jecel maaha dad waalanna manihin
Puck your fake NGM anaa galo. Are we waiting for a Isaaq President to help Gedo infrastructure nacas mise you are waiting for a full functioning government from Saylac to Kismayo inay na caawiso

Puck Farmajo and puck you for supporting autistic beer jileec diplomats corona haku dhacdo

You have to developed a culture of kala dambeyn, lobby for your interest in the dowlad, doesn't matter if the President or top officials are MX or not ! Drop this degenerate hantiwadaag waiting for dowlad to wipe your ass for you.

Farmaajo is not NGM, I pressure Farmaajo to get development to my towns, so should you, we don't politicize it until it is necessary to do so, we use our representatives and do it the right way first, if they block it, that is when we start becoming anti-Farmaajo, but you guys are sheep and not NGM, I defend Farmaajo from the likes of you, because you are not for MX interest, but for socialism.

[nine]

I am free from you waryaa

This is why you are not NGM, because you make these low IQ comments, Farmaajo soma ahan Madaxweynaha Dalka, how can you put him in the same league as representative whose sole job is to represent us, your criticism of Farmaajo is unfounded and disgraceful, you hate him because he is Rer Dalal and you are Rer Koshin, you are jealous, stop the juffo xan waryaa, ma adigaa Rer Dalal gaara calaacal iyo maseer wax ahayn ugama deereysid Beesha Dalal Ugaas, you have an MP you never talk about your eedo, I will expose her waryaa najis yahow, Farmaajo afkaaga ka dhow, diini yaryar baa tahay, tolnimada wanaaji, juffojufaysiga naga daa

The MP waa mafia I was told about her nigga idc waxaa ka qorto I'm not a sub clannist like you. Ceeb weeye to call your own qabiil yaryar. Reer Koshin dad jiffaysi jecel maaha dad waalanna manihin
Puck your fake NGM anaa galo. Are we waiting for a Isaaq President to help Gedo infrastructure nacas mise you are waiting for a full functioning government from Saylac to Kismayo inay na caawiso

Puck Farmajo and puck you for supporting autistic beer jileec diplomats corona haku dhacdo

You have to developed a culture of kala dambeyn, lobby for your interest in the dowlad, doesn't matter if the President or top officials are MX or not ! Drop this degenerate hantiwadaag waiting for dowlad to wipe your ass for you.

Farmaajo is not NGM, I pressure Farmaajo to get development to my towns, so should you, we don't politicize it until it is necessary to do so, we use our representatives and do it the right way first, if they block it, that is when we start becoming anti-Farmaajo, but you guys are sheep and not NGM, I defend Farmaajo from the likes of you, because you are not for MX interest, but for socialism.

Take your daacadnimo stick it where the sun don't shine. 1 Mil for Qardho and 200K for Bardera after Reer Gedo supported the FGS and PL is the biggest mucaarad. Recognizing Madobe and Farmajo still hasn't visited Gedo. Nacal dowladda ku yaal anaa galo. Farmajo is supposed to be a clan leader I wanted us suck the FGS dry of resources for 4 years so we develop our regions.
"Doesn't matter if the President is MX or not" kulahaa a shisheeye president will not build highways in Gedo mise you are waiting for Deni to run for office?

What the fock are you talking about the right way where was our xaq when most regions always get more aid I will not be daacad if other factions are corrupt dawlad diid either we are all daacad or nin walba ha cuno wuxu cuno karo .
The hospital in Baardheere needs to be refurbished where is autistic cheeseman?

Farmajo:
-Recognized Madobe
-Sent more aid to other clans than Marehan
-Didn't visit Gedo since he was elected (even Culusow did)
-Refuses to be associated with Marehan
-Neglects tolka

Focking nacas weeye useless retard like the other MX siyaasis.

The useless Ugaasyo the useless odayaal that focking generation are useless for us ha wada dhintaan. Fock dowladda all FGS should be kicked out of Marehan lands anagaa isku filan. No more daacdnimo anyone associated with FGS either defects to our camp or he is shot and dumped into the river focking waxmatarayaal

[nine]

Nine was referring to what a lo of Marexaan feel, feeling used and abused, looking for FGS backing against Kenya/Dhuxul Trader only for Farmaajo to recognize him for what seems to be his political career. Unlike Abdullahi Yusuf who sacrificed it so as to never undermine his Tol. You're not being daacad if you don't see both sides!

When Farmajo leaves what can we point and say "this is what Farmajo left us" NOTHING.
A thief sees others as thieves Dalalos wuxuu wadaa primitive Zoomali caqli he thinks an attack on Farmajo is an attack on Reer Dalal marka he insults your juffo in response

[grandpakhalif]

Nine was referring to what a lo of Marexaan feel, feeling used and abused, looking for FGS backing against Kenya/Dhuxul Trader only for Farmaajo to recognize him for what seems to be his political career. Unlike Abdullahi Yusuf who sacrificed it so as to never undermine his Tol. You're not being daacad if you don't see both sides!

When Farmajo leaves what can we point and say "this is what Farmajo left us" NOTHING.
A thief sees others as thieves Dalalos wuxuu wadaa primitive Zoomali caqli he thinks an attack on Farmajo is an attack on Reer Dalal marka he insults your juffo in response

Absolutely, Farmaajo has done nothing for us and will go down as the worst President for Marehan. Dalalos dont defend him he is Murusade imo

[grandpakhalif]

Dalalos watch this they destroyed CW airport and failed to renovate it. Now its not functioning thanks Farmaajo.

[Nomand]

Dalalos,

Where you're wrong is that Farmaajo had to recognize Madoobe. He didn't, Abdullahi Yusuf who was the President of a Transitional Government didn't recognize Marexaan in Kismaayo. Tbh he's dead, AUN but I was really not a fan of him and that's a understatement. I lost a Adeer defending Balanbale from Xabashi, SSDF. But that said you won't find too many people who loved their Tol as much as him, and even if it meant he was going to fall from grace and be forced out of Presidency, He would never concede MX hegemoney in Kismaayo ever. So I guess that's kin of unfair. MSB AUN kept empowered Hawiye business wise, Isaaq in the beginning with development while neglecting Marexaan lands. But he did put Marexaan in charge of the Army, Defense institutions, Marexaan was the chain of command and the red berets. This also helped out for post war hositilites with Marexaan being armed and able to defend themselves, not become looma ooyan.


That said where I agree is blaming Farmaajo for Marexaans lack of plan is silly. Our kala danbayn la'aan, shytty representaiton, caadeqaateyaal were there before and after Farmaajo. Nine, myself and all Marexaan always defend him from the people who hate on him for no other reason than waa nin Marexaan Sade ah. Last thing your understanding of how the mps come are wrong. We in the diaspora have nothing to do with it. The so called Odayaal dhaqameed pick them, and they charge $2,000 a vote. I know one of them who paid 60k for his seat. A Marexana lawyer in Kenya paid it. As long as we have a system where these Odayaal dhaqameed bastards can pick our leaders we will have serious isuses. Hopefully with 1 man 1 vote, that will change.


Nine was referring to what a lo of Marexaan feel, feeling used and abused, looking for FGS backing against Kenya/Dhuxul Trader only for Farmaajo to recognize him for what seems to be his political career. Unlike Abdullahi Yusuf who sacrificed it so as to never undermine his Tol. You're not being daacad if you don't see both sides!

mareexaan are at best when they are ignored and set aside. in 1991 it was SNM, USC SPM AND SSDF in the talking table

by 1993 it was USC and SNF in the talking table.

that is all because mareexaan held a grand shir, came together and faced an existential thread of D&M, HAWIYE AND KAB IYO LAX. And as you said abdullahi yusuf tried to do the same in 2007, by totally ignoring marehan but similar to the 1990's when marexaan is totally ignored is when marexaan is at its deadliest.

marexaan retook kismaayo from a much larger harti/ogadeen/ D&M army in 2007. Now the difference is madoobe was in gedo as part of
al itihad in the 1990's. So madoobe knows marexaan inside and out and instead of making the fatal mistakes of abdullahu yusuf and aidiid. madoobe included marexaan and used one faction against another.

which is why he was able to survive for so long but his base of marexaan supports have all been nullified by mucalimo.

Marexaan need to forget about dowlad and do what we are best at: WAR. we need to get back to our mentality of the 1990's

heck hiiraale was 15km outside of kismaayo with 200 boys for 3 years and madoobe sent countless of men and got his ass kicked then the traitor abdiweli with hassan sheikh begged and bribed hiiraale to leave his base.

it will only take 500 marexaan boys to destroy madoobe, but we need hiiraale back.

[dalalos101]

Dalalos,

Where you're wrong is that Farmaajo had to recognize Madoobe. He didn't, Abdullahi Yusuf who was the President of a Transitional Government didn't recognize Marexaan in Kismaayo. Tbh he's dead, AUN but I was really not a fan of him and that's a understatement. I lost a Adeer defending Balanbale from Xabashi, SSDF. But that said you won't find too many people who loved their Tol as much as him, and even if it meant he was going to fall from grace and be forced out of Presidency, He would never concede MX hegemoney in Kismaayo ever. So I guess that's kin of unfair. MSB AUN kept empowered Hawiye business wise, Isaaq in the beginning with development while neglecting Marexaan lands. But he did put Marexaan in charge of the Army, Defense institutions, Marexaan was the chain of command and the red berets. This also helped out for post war hositilites with Marexaan being armed and able to defend themselves, not become looma ooyan.


That said where I agree is blaming Farmaajo for Marexaans lack of plan is silly. Our kala danbayn la'aan, shytty representaiton, caadeqaateyaal were there before and after Farmaajo. Nine, myself and all Marexaan always defend him from the people who hate on him for no other reason than waa nin Marexaan Sade ah. Last thing your understanding of how the mps come are wrong. We in the diaspora have nothing to do with it. The so called Odayaal dhaqameed pick them, and they charge $2,000 a vote. I know one of them who paid 60k for his seat. A Marexana lawyer in Kenya paid it. As long as we have a system where these Odayaal dhaqameed bastards can pick our leaders we will have serious isuses. Hopefully with 1 man 1 vote, that will change.


Nine was referring to what a lo of Marexaan feel, feeling used and abused, looking for FGS backing against Kenya/Dhuxul Trader only for Farmaajo to recognize him for what seems to be his political career. Unlike Abdullahi Yusuf who sacrificed it so as to never undermine his Tol. You're not being daacad if you don't see both sides!

mareexaan are at best when they are ignored and set aside. in 1991 it was SNM, USC SPM AND SSDF in the talking table

by 1993 it was USC and SNF in the talking table.

that is all because mareexaan held a grand shir, came together and faced an existential thread of D&M, HAWIYE AND KAB IYO LAX. And as you said abdullahi yusuf tried to do the same in 2007, by totally ignoring marehan but similar to the 1990's when marexaan is totally ignored is when marexaan is at its deadliest.

marexaan retook kismaayo from a much larger harti/ogadeen/ D&M army in 2007. Now the difference is madoobe was in gedo as part of
al itihad in the 1990's. So madoobe knows marexaan inside and out and instead of making the fatal mistakes of abdullahu yusuf and aidiid. madoobe included marexaan and used one faction against another.

which is why he was able to survive for so long but his base of marexaan supports have all been nullified by mucalimo.

Marexaan need to forget about dowlad and do what we are best at: WAR. we need to get back to our mentality of the 1990's

heck hiiraale was 15km outside of kismaayo with 200 boys for 3 years and madoobe sent countless of men and got his ass kicked then the traitor abdiweli with hassan sheikh begged and bribed hiiraale to leave his base.

it will only take 500 marexaan boys to destroy madoobe, but we need hiiraale back.

support Moalimu without going against Farmaajo, Moalimu is your amiir not Farmaajo, he is amiir of all Somalis, the distancing between the two is brilliant.

[Nomand]

dalalos

i will go after anyone who is against marehan interest.

nine made a good point you think a attack on farmaajo is attack on reer dalal.

[nine]

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[nine]

dalalos

i will go after anyone who is against marehan interest.

nine made a good point you think a attack on farmaajo is attack on reer dalal.

Farmajo recognizes Madobe what more evidence do we need to realize Farmajo is our cadow?

[Murax]

I didn't want to tell this story but I have to say it for context. Faarax Macalim, who is gob, honorable one time called Farmaajo. He said hey please I'm looking for a job for my nephew who's Marexaan he has blah, blah, blah qualifications. Farmaajo responded haye, lakin as long as he's not Reer Dalal. That's how far Farmaajo goes to disassociate from his own Reer Dalal, let alone Marexaan. Some Marexaans one time approached Farmaajo said a lot of Marexaans are angry with you because they feel like you don't do anything to help Marexaan but help others. Instead of being angry, Farmaajo actually laughed, got happy and said that's a good thing if people think that hala faafiyo. Supporting a Marexaan in Xamar based on Marexaanimo or Reer Hebelnimo is stupid, unless they are like Prime Minister Kheyre. He has empowered Murursade like crazy, and they became kingmakers in Xamar. The PM office is full of them, and good for him I'm not knocking him or them for it. Raaxiista Murursadow.


All this being said on principle I will be the first to say it is technically not the job of the President to empower his clan. If we had real, Marexaan centric leaders who were not obsessed with Xamar , cared about where they came from and Farmaajo was shooting them down I'd be against him. But the truth is we have imbicels like Fartaag, Maxamuud Sayyid Aaden, Janaan, so we can't lay that blame on Farmaajo. When any Marexaan goes to Mogadishu we have to forget about them. Mucalimo is a good start, and for now N&N seems to be backing him. That's a positive step. Regions will submit the mps, that is what N&N is pushing so the Dhuxul Trader Kenyan Madoobe won't have anything to do with it, that's another start. Gedo is not affiliated with the Dhuxul Trader for now whatsoever, and N&N did help make that happen so we have to give credit for that.

[Nomand]

dalalos

i will go after anyone who is against marehan interest.

nine made a good point you think a attack on farmaajo is attack on reer dalal.

Farmajo recognizes Madobe what more evidence do we need to realize Farmajo is our cadow?

he was forced to recgonise madoobe. the mistake farmaajo done was trying to capture bualle and then do an election. he should have held an election in garbaharay in September.

i bet you the international community would then see two presidents in jubbaland and not one. because there was no real local oppisition to madoobe in jubbaland the international community forced farmaajo.

farmaajo was too weak. why do we even care about capturing bualle in the first place? it is not like madoobe needed buaalle to self appoint himself as the president.

anyway, let this be a lesson to marehan so to never by pro dowlad or rely on the government for anything.