DIAGRAM #2: Let's remember why we haven't had an election yet

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Re: DIAGRAM #2: Let's remember why we haven't had an election yet

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zidane88 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:00 pm Murax, of course there are tens other factors that is against functioning government on top of those you mentioned, example, businessmen, former warlords, alshabab. But he got his priority wrong instead of eliminating Al-shabab using every regional power, he opted otherwise hence where the shoe pinches.

wadnaha, Madoobe knows there's always plan B while farmaajo doesn't. I am not against Somali government when i see one that is honest and transparent. What i can't accept is a government that's patronising us while having a sinister agenda. You can't compare madoobe against farmaajo , one is the President of Somalia while the other is regional pres, the latter is reponsible for uniting the country as he pledges it. If Madoobe is dividing the nation i would have called him off the same as Farmaajo.

Phinks, you're right. If Farmaajo could have "election" the way he wanted he could would win hands down since he erected 3 stooges, and puppet head of parliament.
Do you know the similarities between Ahmed Madoobe, Deni and Farmaajo? All three are incapable of controlling what they claim to be their responsibility. 90%-95% of Jubbaland is not under Ahmed Madoobe's control. Sool, Sanaag and Buuhoodle district is not under Deni's control. Somaliland, Puntland, Shabab-controlled areas and Kismaayo are not under Farmaajo's control.

Ahmed Madoobe has been in Kismayo before Farmaajo even stepped into the political arena in Mogadishu. Ahmed Madoobe is still in Kismaayo even after Farmaajo's 4-year term ended. Yet, you have the audacity to talk about dictatorship? :lol:
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wadnaha, i didn't say Axmed madoobe is not dictator. He's someone who can haggle and negiotiate his way out of trouble unlike Farmaajo. The other difference is one is President of Somalia, the other regional President. the whole of Somalia depended on him.
If the shoe is on the other foot Madoobe would have worked his way out the mess farmaajo is in right now, as he has a proven record of negotiating with oppositions before. Get that in your thick skull.
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zidane88 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:02 pm wadnaha, i didn't say Axmed madoobe is not dictator. He's someone who can haggle and negiotiate his way out of trouble unlike Farmaajo. The other difference is one is President of Somalia, the other regional President. the whole of Somalia depended on him.
If the shoe is on the other foot Madoobe would have worked his way out the mess farmaajo is in right now, as he has a proven record of negotiating with oppositions before. Get that in your thick skull.
I disagree with you. Ahmed Madoobe would act exactly how Farmaajo is acting if Ahmed Madoobe was the President of Somalia. AbkoowDhiblaawe would be yelling "OG will never be president of Somalia again" instead of what he's saying now, "MX will never be president of Somalia again."

I want you to understand this. Ahmed Madoobe is not a criminal or wrong. He has every right to be president of Jubbaland, especially when Jubbaland is so disunited. Farmaajo and Ahmed Madoobe are both wrong in not coming to an agreement. They're wasting more time in arguments instead of finding a common goal and executing that goal. They have both failed the people of Jubbaland. :down:
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WadaniggaBarakaysan wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:01 pm
zidane88 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:02 pm wadnaha, i didn't say Axmed madoobe is not dictator. He's someone who can haggle and negiotiate his way out of trouble unlike Farmaajo. The other difference is one is President of Somalia, the other regional President. the whole of Somalia depended on him.
If the shoe is on the other foot Madoobe would have worked his way out the mess farmaajo is in right now, as he has a proven record of negotiating with oppositions before. Get that in your thick skull.
I disagree with you. Ahmed Madoobe would act exactly how Farmaajo is acting if Ahmed Madoobe was the President of Somalia. AbkoowDhiblaawe would be yelling "OG will never be president of Somalia again" instead of what he's saying now, "MX will never be president of Somalia again."

I want you to understand this. Ahmed Madoobe is not a criminal or wrong. He has every right to be president of Jubbaland, especially when Jubbaland is so disunited. Farmaajo and Ahmed Madoobe are both wrong in not coming to an agreement. They're wasting more time in arguments instead of finding a common goal and executing that goal. They have both failed the people of Jubbaland. :down:
Again you're not differentiating chalk from cheese. Jubaland were peaceful before Farmaajo stick his nose in, that's where your logic has hole in it.
There's no smoke without fire, had farmaajo not interfered J/land this mess wouldn't be there at all. Accept that first before we talk about Madoobe and negotiation. How hard is it to grasp that?
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Re: DIAGRAM #2: Let's remember why we haven't had an election yet

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zidane88 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:08 pm
WadaniggaBarakaysan wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:01 pm
zidane88 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:02 pm wadnaha, i didn't say Axmed madoobe is not dictator. He's someone who can haggle and negiotiate his way out of trouble unlike Farmaajo. The other difference is one is President of Somalia, the other regional President. the whole of Somalia depended on him.
If the shoe is on the other foot Madoobe would have worked his way out the mess farmaajo is in right now, as he has a proven record of negotiating with oppositions before. Get that in your thick skull.
I disagree with you. Ahmed Madoobe would act exactly how Farmaajo is acting if Ahmed Madoobe was the President of Somalia. AbkoowDhiblaawe would be yelling "OG will never be president of Somalia again" instead of what he's saying now, "MX will never be president of Somalia again."

I want you to understand this. Ahmed Madoobe is not a criminal or wrong. He has every right to be president of Jubbaland, especially when Jubbaland is so disunited. Farmaajo and Ahmed Madoobe are both wrong in not coming to an agreement. They're wasting more time in arguments instead of finding a common goal and executing that goal. They have both failed the people of Jubbaland. :down:
Again you're not differentiating chalk from cheese. Jubaland were peaceful before Farmaajo stick his nose in, that's where your logic has hole in it.
There's no smoke without fire, had farmaajo not interfered J/land this mess wouldn't be there at all. Accept that first before we talk about Madoobe and negotiation. How hard is it to grasp that?
What Jubbaland are you referring to? Last I checked Kismaayo alone wasn't Jubbaland. Ahmed Madoobe never had control of Middle Jubba, vast areas within Lower Jubba and Gedo. In the 8 years he has been in office, Ahmed Madoobe has not left Kismaayo. Why do you think that is? It is due to disunity of the people of Jubbaland.

Ahmed Madoobe has turned into the Ismail Omar Ghelleh of Jubbaland. In 2021 there will be Jubbaland election process sometime, It will be interesting to see how things unfold.
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At least he's better than villa reer Diini president who can't venture out of the villa. When was the last time he visited to kaaraan, Yaaqshiid, Huriwaa, dar-salaam and many other places in Mogadisho? misery loves company. :lol:
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