Excuse me, why do you sound so naive all the time? Wallahi I am not insulting you, I am describing the "effect" you give off.Kees70 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:32 amThe reality on the ground is that qabiil matter, people say Rooble waa maskiin humble person, yeah maybe thats true but his clan HG are known for being ruthless and that is why the Madasha Militia who encircled Mogadishu left, Rooble started with the HG Militia first and they agreed and left and than he went to abgaals and they too left, it was very simple had abgaal refused it would have been an dire consequence of HG VS Abgaal clash and they didnt wanted that so they left, had this been PM Kheyre he would have been chewed by both HG and Abgaal Militia sides.grandpakhalif wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:33 am Qoor Qoor has won the hearts and minds of Reer Galmudug and is probably the most popular state leader to grace the political scene. I really like how him and Rooble defused the situation in Xamar and their peacemaking efforts. If PM Rooble successfully gets 17 September agreement signed and the election rolling I shall declare him the greatest PM ever. He has achieved more in 10 months than Khayre did in 3 years, it goes to show that strong oratory skills and fanfare means little to Somalis ACTION is what counts
Al Capone once quipped that "a kind word with a gun is more effective than just a kind word.", the Gun here for Rooble is HG Xoog!
Everybodh's militia is "routhless."
That's irrelevant.
The whole POINT OF 4.5 power sharing formula is "YOU GO AND TALK SENSE INTO YOUR PEOPLE , THAT'S WHY YOU ARE HERE."
Did anybody come between Farmaajo and Janan?
Why did we send the Xawaadle Minister to Xuud and the Abgaal Minister to Abgaal?
Why does Farmaajo send the "foreign minister" to Gaalkacyo to talk to Cumar Maxmuud?
When Kheyre was PM, why was he constantly in every village in Galmudug partaking in thr process there but nobody sent Kheyre even once to get involved in Jubbaland and Southwest?
You are pointing as noteworthy stuff that is the norm, not the exception.
It is part of his role under 4.5 to be the key government person dealing with reconciliation issues concerning his clan.
Or do you not understand this is originally even how the system was designed?
And EVEN SO, something can INFORM the process (like tribalism) while not necessarily evem being the biggest informing aspect of the process.
Just because tribalism is a reality isn't as simple and static as you allude.
Somali politics at this stage is not PRIMARILY about tribalism. Tribalism is a factor to be manipulated AFTER set back on the primary objectives; power, money, greed, and yes real differences in IDEOLOGY.