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Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:25 am
by Gubbet
Kees70 wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:32 am
grandpakhalif wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:33 am
Qoor Qoor has won the hearts and minds of Reer Galmudug and is probably the most popular state leader to grace the political scene. I really like how him and Rooble defused the situation in Xamar and their peacemaking efforts. If PM Rooble successfully gets 17 September agreement signed and the election rolling I shall declare him the greatest PM ever. He has achieved more in 10 months than Khayre did in 3 years, it goes to show that strong oratory skills and fanfare means little to Somalis ACTION is what counts
The reality on the ground is that qabiil matter, people say Rooble waa maskiin humble person, yeah maybe thats true but his clan HG are known for being ruthless and that is why the Madasha Militia who encircled Mogadishu left, Rooble started with the HG Militia first and they agreed and left and than he went to abgaals and they too left, it was very simple had abgaal refused it would have been an dire consequence of HG VS Abgaal clash and they didnt wanted that so they left, had this been PM Kheyre he would have been chewed by both HG and Abgaal Militia sides.
Al Capone once quipped that "a kind word with a gun is more effective than just a kind word.", the Gun here for Rooble is HG Xoog!
Excuse me, why do you sound so naive all the time? Wallahi I am not insulting you, I am describing the "effect" you give off.
Everybodh's militia is "routhless."
That's irrelevant.
The whole POINT OF 4.5 power sharing formula is "YOU GO AND TALK SENSE INTO YOUR PEOPLE , THAT'S WHY YOU ARE HERE."
Did anybody come between Farmaajo and Janan?
Why did we send the Xawaadle Minister to Xuud and the Abgaal Minister to Abgaal?
Why does Farmaajo send the "foreign minister" to Gaalkacyo to talk to Cumar Maxmuud?
When Kheyre was PM, why was he constantly in every village in Galmudug partaking in thr process there but nobody sent Kheyre even once to get involved in Jubbaland and Southwest?
You are pointing as noteworthy stuff that is the norm, not the exception.
It is part of his role under 4.5 to be the key government person dealing with reconciliation issues concerning his clan.
Or do you not understand this is originally even how the system was designed?
And EVEN SO, something can INFORM the process (like tribalism) while not necessarily evem being the biggest informing aspect of the process.
Just because tribalism is a reality isn't as simple and static as you allude.
Somali politics at this stage is not PRIMARILY about tribalism. Tribalism is a factor to be manipulated AFTER set back on the primary objectives; power, money, greed, and yes real differences in IDEOLOGY.
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:26 am
by Kees70
Voltage walaal waa gartey, thanks for the Info
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:32 am
by Gubbet
I added a last point about Greed which I found important to add
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:38 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
I see alot of anti mudulood and anti MJ xin here. Continue sxbayaal
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:43 am
by bashe19
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 am
by Gubbet
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:38 am
I see alot of anti mudulood and anti MJ xin here. Continue sxbayaal
Labada odayaal oo waqtigoodi cunay waad ka dabo hari waydeen so why you acting like you haven't declared political war on us first
It is not like we mentionef AA.
We just talked about our guy Qoorqoor
He's a real niggah wallahi, I have a lot of respect for my niggah Qoorqoor, dude is a hometown boy now. When hr goes to Caabudwaaq, Balanbale, or Dhabat it aint some fake superficial clap clap stuff anymore. That Niggah got dips on everything including a min yaro, we need to hook him up
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 4:34 am
by Kees70
Pres. Qoor qoor Politicking with the Abgaal Candidates (Dahir geele, HSM and Shariif).
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 5:27 am
by Shantabaq
Kees70 wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 4:20 pm
Shantabaq wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 3:55 pm
I can’t wait until ethiopia leaves gedo and the raskamboni brigades can clean the area.
Inshaalah after Rooble becomes president, this operation will start, Ogaden support Rooble much more than Sheikh Sharif.
But he must distance himself from the toxic waste in Villa Somalia.
His first action must be to kick out Ethiopia.
We Sacad already know that our Ogaden Brother will vote for us and we like-wise for them
I can already see Sacad President appeasing both sides, our last Sacad leader before Rooble was Xaaf GM President he was the First leader to have united Galmudug when he moved his government and Parliament to Dhusomareeb and created for those ahlu sunnah a special PM seat and 80 mps exclusively, just to appease the ceyrs and they did become happy and siatisfied until Xaaf clashed with farmaajo and all went downhill.
What that shows is Sacad's leadership ,we dont believe in Zero sum game where one wins and other loses because that will create and breed hate and long lasting cuqdad.
Jubaland is Bread basket blessed state that can easily be fixed with just dib-heshisishiin peace talks, both Ogadens and Marexan no matter how much political rivalry they hate each other they will always remain brothers, So Rooble will just offer a comprise, one gets the capital and the other the Presidency and both get equal amount of MPs and Minsiters and Veto over the others, and also Jubada Dhexe will be liberated at all cost ASAP, and as for Kenya they will leave on their accord once the ICJ rules its judgment, because Kenya unlike Ethiopia has no history of transgression those kikuye prefer economical interets over hostile ones any day.
Jubaland can easily suceed and become the richest state if only a little love is shared by Mx and Og siblings!
P,s. Returnmarixman walaal waxas waa ceeb, Og waa Tol and Halyeeys who fought for Somalis History who should be respected!
That sounds like good idea but will the kikuyus of Somalia (mx) accept this?
They won’t. They already have more than their rightful share of ministers and mps in jubbaland, and they believe a someone born in garbaharey owns kismayo while the one born 100km away in Afamadow is a foreigner.
If we dealt with them the same way hg dealt with them they would sit down quietly and shut up.
That is what happened when Sheikh Madobe karbashed their hero the one eyed bare hurale
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 5:58 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
Gubbet wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 4:23 am
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 3:38 am
I see alot of anti mudulood and anti MJ xin here. Continue sxbayaal
Labada odayaal oo waqtigoodi cunay waad ka dabo hari waydeen so why you acting like you haven't declared political war on us first
It is not like we mentionef AA.
We just talked about our guy Qoorqoor
He's a real niggah wallahi, I have a lot of respect for my niggah Qoorqoor, dude is a hometown boy now. When hr goes to Caabudwaaq, Balanbale, or Dhabat it aint some fake superficial clap clap stuff anymore. That Niggah got dips on everything including a min yaro, we need to hook him up
Sxb thank you for uniting us. This election mudulood will have one main candidate.
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 9:54 am
by Kees70
Qoor-qoor and Mahdi Guuleed discussing about Somalilands role in the Coming Election!
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 10:00 am
by BigBreak
Let HG or Hawadle become Somalia's president
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 12:26 pm
by Nomand
BigBreak wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:00 am
Let HG or Hawadle become Somalia's president
Who is the one letting? and what is stopping them from becoming the president. Why do they need to be let?
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 4:34 am
by BigBreak
Nomand wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:26 pm
BigBreak wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:00 am
Let HG or Hawadle become Somalia's president
Who is the one letting? and what is stopping them from becoming the president. Why do they need to be let?
The MPs and Senators of the Parliament of Somalia should deliberately choose a new HAG president but who isn't Abgaal. Hawiye and Mogadishu isn't only Abgaal after all
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 4:51 am
by Xoogjire
BigBreak wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 4:34 am
Nomand wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:26 pm
BigBreak wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:00 am
Let HG or Hawadle become Somalia's president
Who is the one letting? and what is stopping them from becoming the president. Why do they need to be let?
The MPs and Senators of the Parliament of Somalia should deliberately choose a new HAG president but who isn't Abgaal. Hawiye and Mogadishu isn't only Abgaal after all
That's the way Mudane Lander, the election is for all, but I have a feeling Farmaajo lose his time and President Hassan ali will win because he has Gedo, SL, gl, pl, JL, and Hirshabelle support, president Hasan Ali
Re: Alliances for the 2021 elections......
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:39 am
by Nomand
BigBreak wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 4:34 am
Nomand wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:26 pm
BigBreak wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 10:00 am
Let HG or Hawadle become Somalia's president
Who is the one letting? and what is stopping them from becoming the president. Why do they need to be let?
The MPs and Senators of the Parliament of Somalia should deliberately choose a new HAG president but who isn't Abgaal. Hawiye and Mogadishu isn't only Abgaal after all
Senators and mps are 4.5 so why would they deliberately choose hawiye when 77 percent of those voting are not hawiye.
Plus they are voting for president of Somalia not president of mogadishu. Should only habar awal become president of somaliand since hargeysa is their deegaan?
