Galmudug Interior Ministry announces Balanbal District seats

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Re: Galmudug Interior Ministry announces Balanbal District seats

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grandpakhalif wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 10:00 am
Nomand wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:30 am
grandpakhalif wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:18 am
The tool has exposed himself as a fool of HG why didnt Qoor Qoor write the firing letter? Geel laafihis leysku jabsha sxb this dude has lost all credibility and may never be able to step foot in Cabudwaaq/Balanbal again. People are inflamed.
abdi wayeel is very popular inside caabudwaaq, i expect a sharp response from DC of caabudwaaq and MX in general. but i will say one thing. reer diini should not be given any leadership in galmudug. cabdi wayeel has done a injustice towards uurmidig.

MX leadership in mudug/ galgaduud should be given to wagardhac. look at how they dealt with hutus in dacdheer and kaxandhaale. if a wagardhac guy was in the position abdi wayeel was in. ceyr would not have given a single seat.

it is the weak mindedness of reer diini that has emboldened HG. and this is the first time i agree with CAAM CAAM.

cali ciid is finished, he is a boy playing poltics.
Unfortunately as a bonafide Reer Diini I agree with you 100% Wagardhac have shown great leadership and know how to deal with The Horde who forever seek to enroach on our land. We need a firm hand we should Nominate a great wagardhac leader to carry the reigns. They have done a fantastic job in Kaxandhaale.
Kkk, I thought you where isaaq now?
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Mahad Salad praising cali ciid and insulting farmaajo in the same post.

Cali ciid is finished, a marehan that is praised by mahad salad is no leader of mine.

And the worst thing is cali ciid is writing on Facebook about firing abdi wayaal while sitting in dhuusamareeb.

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Nomand wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 2:45 pm
grandpakhalif wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 10:00 am
Nomand wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:30 am

abdi wayeel is very popular inside caabudwaaq, i expect a sharp response from DC of caabudwaaq and MX in general. but i will say one thing. reer diini should not be given any leadership in galmudug. cabdi wayeel has done a injustice towards uurmidig.

MX leadership in mudug/ galgaduud should be given to wagardhac. look at how they dealt with hutus in dacdheer and kaxandhaale. if a wagardhac guy was in the position abdi wayeel was in. ceyr would not have given a single seat.

it is the weak mindedness of reer diini that has emboldened HG. and this is the first time i agree with CAAM CAAM.

cali ciid is finished, he is a boy playing poltics.
Unfortunately as a bonafide Reer Diini I agree with you 100% Wagardhac have shown great leadership and know how to deal with The Horde who forever seek to enroach on our land. We need a firm hand we should Nominate a great wagardhac leader to carry the reigns. They have done a fantastic job in Kaxandhaale.
Kkk, I thought you where isaaq now?
Kkkkk I am trolling MJs on sspot I wanna piss em off :lol:
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grandpakhalif wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:56 am Breaking! They just fired Cabdi Waayeel!!! I told you Voltage!!

You told me what? Matter of fact have you asked me if I am shocked at this outcome?

You are the only one harping about HG and maalayacni, bro. All that is irrelevant, it just piggybacking because they don't have an agreement in Guriceel among themselves.

I told you---this issue is between Marehan and if you understood my first response to you, you would not be the one acting as if I am surprised.

For me the question is, why did Minister Waayeel announce this if the deal was not finalized. I don't get it, this is self- inflicted wound.


I am not, surprised grandpa.

The response to the council by Marehan/REER BALANBALE has been "worst" case scenario----which begs my original question, why did Abdi Waayeel, a season politician, do such a reactionary and destabilizing thing as "announce" an Administration that he clearly had not confirmed had the confidence of all of reer Balanbale.

For example, to show you how you don't understand reer Balanbale, refer back also to my very first post in this topic about my "surprise."

1. I don't see UurMidig.


That in itself is cancelling for an Administration of Balanbale district.

Abdi Waayeel's firing says to me---honest to Goodness----the SENIORMOST odayaal of BAH-HAWIYE in Balanbale, probably including reer Kooshin, have expressed further lack of confidence in his ability to handle this issue.

Just the fact it was named without confirming full support from Balanbale probably informs the decision taken by the odayaal.
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Nomand wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:41 am
nine wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:35 am
grandpakhalif wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 7:23 am
No he is discussing Galmudug unilateral scrapping of Balanbal District and the disrespect they have shown Abdi wayeel by completely dismissing his list. He urges Marexaan leaders to stand up and not allow "quursi" when they have received 0 seats in the recent Galkacyo council. He urges Cali Ciid to speak up for Marehan and not stay a quiet mouse.

MX siyaasis trying to beg and talk in a society where the gun reigns supreme. More at 10
MX is missing a odowaa or mahad salaad like politician. our equivalent is alankey and farataag but instead of doing it for MX they do it for ogadeen.

His name is Moalimu :mrgreen:


Grandpa,

I’m always right :lol:
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Also Grandpa, when I say the Senior most odayaal of BAH-HAWIYE of Balanbale Constituency, you will note I am not talking about Reer Diini (Bah Xawaadle and Bah-Daarandoole), I am talking about WAAXDA BAH HAWIYE of Afar Waaxood, the Marehan Mudug powersharing system which is still utilized in Balanba

Waaxda BAH HAWIYE
  • Reer Diini
    • Bah Xawaadle (Warsame, Siyaad)
    • Bah Daarandoole (Kooshin, Shirwac, rtc)
  • Cali Dhere
  • Uurmidig
The seniormost ODAYAAL of waaxda bah-Hawiye have declared the gole deegaan lto be in serious breach[/quote] of the powersharing formula which is not an elementary mistake expected from Waayeel.

Like I think you REALLY need to understand there is actually "proportionality" between how shocking the firing is AND how surprising the development of such an "elementary mistake" in serious breach of the MOST widely accepted order (of Marehan Mudug powersharing).

For a politician of Cabdi Waayeel's stature to receive a summary dismissal and from the highest representation of his clan in the State, it is shockingly naive and juvenile to assume this is about Ciid or outside the clan.

It means the seniormost or the majority of Elders, and nowhere in Somalia are elders more powerful, have given a Vote of No Confidence they will not come back from.
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Thanks for educating me but I still dont believe this warrants the abrupt firing of a senior statemen Abdi Waayel. It was very abrupt and unnecessary. He holds HUGE respect amongst Marexaan Mudug for his tireless charity works and helping to build Jamacada Ummada ee Faraca Cabudwaaq.
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Perhaps I am bias because Cabdi Wayeel is very close to my family and is essentially a father in law to me :D
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Gubbet,

I stand corrected. Thanks for correcting me. However, this culture of division which keeps MXs weak in general divorced from this issue is something I want a permanent solution for. We need a new deal to speak if you get what I’m saying. All these problems are recurring and it needs a real fix not cosmetics.
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Asc. asxaabta, inkastoo shacab badan o reer Faarac Ugaas nala duuban yihiin, taagerana noo muujinayaan, o Balanbale taageero Uurmidig lagu xardhay, hadana waxaan layaab iyo amakaag nagu noqotay colaada heerka le'eg ee uu wasiir waayeel noo qabo iyo meeshuu kala yimi?

Maanta su'aasha iyo layaankuba tolku exwasiir bey dulsaareen, tayo kale u lahaana ficilkaan ba ka baabi'iyey; inabuna wacan baaris u galeynaa wa aan u dhinay, kol aan walaashi furnay, koley gadoob bu inaga tirsanayaa.

INTA EHELKA INA GARAB SIISEY WEYKU MAHADSANYIN

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Abdi Wayeel declares xil ka qaadis sharci darro and against dastuurka Galmudug. Doesnt sound like a man without the backing of his tol. Geesi geesi dhalay cid xil ka qaadi karta maleh adeer

https://www.caasimada.net/wasiir-cabdi- ... -dhageyso/
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Abdi waayeel..my uncle ?
Aw hell naw!
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I don't know what is going on or is behind or motivating him, but Cabdi Waayeel is ruining his reputation with his own constituency of reer Balanbale.

Grandpa, you are being shortsighted. I don't know if you are really unaware or playing a game, but I assure you this is not good for Marehan Mudug.

For example Grandpa, at this point let me provide clarity---you as reer Dalal are actually one of the issues. The fact reer Dalal got the same number of seats as reer Warsame or something, for example, when they do not even live in the city of Balanbale or countryside as primary deegaan groups---was eye raising.

But the fact that reer Dalal got those seats while UurMidig---who are the biggest Marehan group in the countryaide between Balanbale and Dhusamareb AND are one of the big 4 in Balanbale (Uurmidig, Bah Daarandoole, Bah Xawaadle, Cali Dheere) AND are part of Waaxda Bah Hawiye for that reason of importance to Balanbale---got NOTHING is no longer eye raising.

It is a "No" by the elders of Balanbale.

The fact that they are part of Waaxda Bah-Hawiye is a reflection of their importance in Balanbale actually describes their order of PRECIDENCE before all others.

If there are 4 seats open in Balanbale; those 4 seats belong to Uurmidig, Cali Dheere, Bah Xawaadle, bah Daarandoole.

ONLY if a 5th seat is available or more, are any other groups then eligible for a seat.

Not only was the power sharing broken, but you got MULTIPLE seats which means the perception is created this was done with ---I don't even want to cast aspersion, but there are murmurs this was more.explained by his business interests in Caabudwaaq than the reality in Balanbale.

The point is it doesn't look good and the council was dead on arrival with the elders.

Young Ciid, sxb, is exactly as you said. It is UNTHINKABLE for him doing that to a senior politician of his own clan...

... Unless the circumstance was so extraordinary and the displeasure so unanimous, that odayaasha Balanbale were speaking through Ciid's actions.

Disclaimer: Do not tribalize this with me or ascribe anything personal to me . I iterally only explained the context and the extraordinary circumstances that resulted in what we all see is a shocking firing.
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Issue is resolved. MX agreed, cabdi wayeel has added uurmidig to the councillors.

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Alxamdulilah, if the backlash was worst case scenario, then this solution (and I hope it sticks) is the best case resolution.

Both the case and the effect were extremely negative for Marehan, meaning there is no way that Marehan Mudug who have lived with each other peacefully all this long can just dispense with agreed protocol like that and the summary dismissal or indignity befalling a man with Waayeel stature is a negative development for the clan as well.

I think this issue has been instructive that SOMETIMES the "HG" card might itself be a weaponized tool from within as well.

I am not going to lie, it actually made me think of the possibility that Mahad Salaad and Cali Yare might have been "paid" or somehow brought in to sideline the actual people who stopped the process, namely from within Balanbale. Their isqorqor was so misplaced it looked contrived almost.

I think it also shows that on the ground, there is a reason why the power sharing formula of Afar Waxood has existed for half a century.

For the folks who wanted to get rid of it, as Grandpa and Adali argued, it is not set in stone alright and it can be dispensed with, but a "treaty" must replace a "treaty" otherwise its a mess and potential conflict.

To get rid of Afar Waaxood, the folks against it need to bring something that replaces it as this issue has shown, you can't nullify Afar Waaxood with nothing.

There is no Marehan man today in Mudug with Abdi Waayeel's name and reputation and he literally get the axe in half a day.
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